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Topic Started: Jan 12 2005, 07:18 PM (19,378 Views)
kenzo^
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hehe tama ka mon,
and you are PVP smith right?
god i miss those days.
onti nalang mga kalaro sa pvp ngaun eh.
sorry OT na ata ako.
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Valis La Sombra
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Aug 15 2006, 07:58 PM
If your planning to make a WoE build WS, 38+12 dex is already enough for leveling and for spamming your skills... Remember, your role is to guard the portals of the castle. so the best skill for a WS to use is his Hammerfall or the meltdown cartrevo combo. :) WS's major role in WoE is Defending. You can also kill, but not effectively and fast compared to other jobs :) Remember, Smiths nevermiss because of their weapon perfection. so if your a WoE smith dont waste ur stats on Dex. WoE is played as a Guild. Teamwork is the major word for WoE. You can't help your Guild by just wasting 5-10 seconds of your time trying to kill someone rather than breaking 10-20 armors and weapons w/ that span of time.

Next, PvP smith. There are 2 type of PvP smiths
1) Party pvp smith
- if your a partysmith remember, you are playing as a team, and not by yourselves. know your role! dex wouldnt be much of a factor here, considering the fact that instead of killing and wasting time on someone, use your combo meltdown+cartrevo to break their armors and weapons allowing your partymates have an easy kill for them. :) or HF and call someone to do the killing faster :P
2) 1v1 Smith
- 48+12 or higher dex :) for your aspd and hitrate. your role? since you are a 1v1 smith, your main objective here is to kill your opponent fast before he kills you. :) missing is not an excuse. Pag duling ka, duling ka talaga... wala ng palusot at wala ng rason :) how can you kill your opponent when you cant even hit him LoL

so? what type of a smith are you? :) always know your role and let your actions do the talking...

Well put by the legendary Monster..I can see here the legendary 38+12 DEX issue,anyway from the transition of skills and jobs,Mastersmith skills are higlighted as offensive but it's capabilities are disabling and/or support.Ok na talaga siguro pang WoE ang 38 Dex,1 on 1 talaga depende sa build ng kalaban.

Anyway,sobrang tagal ko na di nag Whitesmith..Kinalawang na ako ng todo..haha /heh

May nakapagsabi sakin naman ng KillAll smith build?Party dependent din yun diba?

OT:Mon halimaw ka daw talaga mag prof ah../gg
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pareho kmi ni Mon ng opinion regarding dex. 38+12 is good enough specially if your a hybrid build. 60 dex for those high agi-builds, pvp 1vs1 build, and MVP-killer build (though proven ko na na 50dex is still good enough to kill MVP boss 1vs1).

the good thing with Mastersmith/WS is the boost in HP and extra skill points, which you can spend to other stats like VIT, AGI, and STR. the greater beauty of WS is that mas nagiging flexible na ang mga builds, unlike as BS na limited lng. As BS, u can go pure agi, pure STR, Vit-type, agi-crit (lolz, but even my old friend Adrenaline Boy tried dis build too) and hybrid then suffer the limitations of each build. But now as WS, with extra stat points, HP boost and new skills, each build can now be used with minor setbacks
example, pure agi build of WS can now be tougher and have higher HP compared to pure agi build of BS which has a major setback in terms of defense, HP, and stun-susceptability.

so many builds, so many roles, thats d beauty of WS. its all up to the player which build serves its true purpose.

@Orim

Chino, alam ko build mo, pero d ko na ilalantad sa LB, bka maraming ma-praning hahaha(joke).

clue sa build ni ZZZZ (orim)- makunat, hindi duling, pero medyo mabagal. epektib na tanke sa WOE kso kakainin ng buhay ng AD pag wlang GR /gg


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hahaha, nabuhay ka din! wooot! miss na kita fanet!
tama si kenzo, wla ng kabuhay buhay PvP, puro mga trashtalkers-aggre players na lng nagkalat dun. unlike nung b4 na gentlemen's play pa noon tyo sa izlude at safe manood. lolz, d2 na lng pla sa LB tyo nagkikita-kita. lolz, si PryM? na lng kulang, buhay na barkada :wohoo: (si [Keith]Ken at Pinuno nakikita ko pa minsan sa WoE).
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Hi po sa inyong lahat lalo na ke kenzo at kay master mon!! miz u mga fanet.. spam lang ako... wahihih /heh its been a while ^_^

oks na ang dex 38+12 + 10 kung tutuusin.. make ur build flexible, meaning u should know how to set ur character up with accessories and the right equips. have those skills of "reading" ur oponent's build, well, sa veterans na na bs, this skill comes naturally lalo na kung tumanda na sa kaka tourney. hehehe /heh

nadadaan sa diskarte ang lahat basta may knowledge sa wide variety of cards and equips. by this, i dont mean relying on boss cards and legendary weapons. honestly, i dont find real strength in ppl bearing those kinds of items. dont get me wrong, anyways my opinion lang po!! peace!! /wah It doesnt mean if its expensive, its appropriate to use for just about everyone. u can have accessories ready for each possibility that ur opponent can pose in a 1on1 pvp situation.

He may be able to own u the first time you battle it out with him, but if u think smart and be able to read his build, most probably, hindi na sya makaka ulit!! /no1

iyon lang po ^_^ more power sa atin na na in lab sa bs/ws class!!
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@valis

OMG! Prof? baka hindi po ako yun hehehehe miss you papsss /kis

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wazzaapp dude! oo nga, wala na saysay ang pvp izlude sa loki ngyn hehehe well atleast d2 parin tayo nagkikita kita :) kayo kayo nalang ba ngyn? ipagpatuguyod niyo ang lakas ng mga pandayyy /no1
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@Orim

Chino, alam ko build mo, pero d ko na ilalantad sa LB, bka maraming ma-praning hahaha(joke).

clue sa build ni ZZZZ (orim)- makunat, hindi duling, pero medyo mabagal. epektib na tanke sa WOE kso kakainin ng buhay ng AD pag wlang GR


hahaha 180 ASP /gg mabagal pa ba un? T_T

kakainin nang AD? waaaa d ako 1 shot un lng /gg kaya ko mag survive.. /heh



sa cart ram nid mo tlga HIGH STR. wala effect ung bloody boned dba?

sa damage... tama ba?

pag 1on1 smith... HIGH DEX,MODERATE VIT,HIGH STR, not very low agi :D

@reignfire

try mo si Trevorzski.. ako rin nang build /gg

nsakin account nun eh /gg talo si ŽŽŽŽŽ <- /heh mejin build eh /gg

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like i said str isnt everything :)

fly like a butterfly sting like bee
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Oo! ako ang kumanta ng BanaL na Aso!
/go 38+12+10 dex
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like i said str isnt everything



pero sa cart ram.. STR tlga nid moh! :D kung master smith.

kung BS mamo nde.

100 str lng ksi ako dti eh /heh
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Oo! ako ang kumanta ng BanaL na Aso!
pasok na cguro ung
90 str
90 agi
41 vit
38 dex
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or pwede ko ireduce ung agi para madagdagan ang str or vit.../hmm
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pero sa cart ram.. STR tlga nid moh! :) kung master smith.

kung BS mamo nde.

A level 10 Mammo would add 600% damage from your normal attack.

The Cart Ram's Damage is based upon the WEIGHT of the cart divided by 6% multipilied by ATK.

And we all know that STR and Cards can boost up our Normal ATK range resulting into a much stronger damage from the 2 skills.

Mammo damage relies on the Str of the smith to increase the number of his/her ATK Status

Cart Ram also relies on the Str of the smith to increase the number of his/her ATK status
Conclusion = STR = ATK :)

STR isnt everything. why? What if you have a High STR and a High AGI or VIT or DEX smith and a moderate of what is left. (Cart ram gives 50% chance of stunning your opponent every hit )
1) Yeah, your strong and fast but i can stun you easily and not allowing you to hit me.
2) Yeah, your damage is far more stronger than mine but i can do 4-6 Hits faster than you.
3. Yeah, Your Cart ram hurts like hell and you never miss a hit, but i can hit faster and damage you enough and allows me to stun you for the win

STR isnt everything. :)
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wahahaha na prove ko knina paps...

moderate str vs high str
high vit vs moderate vit
48dex vs 38 dex
halos same agi sila dalawa.. 3 ang diffrnce /heh

pnalo ung moderate str high vit 48 dex /heh /heh

d nga lahat sa str.. pero lake diffrnce damge.. halos 200-300 same weapon kmi and items /heh :D

tsaka master smith ko silng dalawa :D

w/ out baps pla.. pag nag 120 na.. cguro mga 500 diffrnce 2k natitira sa HP ko eh :D

kea pag gnun hihg STR patay ako 4 sure. :D
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onti nalang kulang buhay na ulit ang mga WS at BS dito sa LB /heh
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pasok na cguro ung
90 str
90 agi
41 vit
38 dex
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or pwede ko ireduce ung agi para madagdagan ang str or vit...

sa tingin ko ok na yan agi mo .. taas ang atspd mas ok para sakin :D
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~Jebbito~ fullsupport dex type highpriest 99/68
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`_kenzo_` int-dex minstrel 99/69
bijoux hybrid HSCR MasterSmith 90/57
-janneth high atspd HSCR MasterSmith 72/40
Iron Chrysanthemum str-agi harvester rouge 98/50
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pero sa cart ram.. STR tlga nid moh! :) kung master smith.

kung BS mamo nde.

A level 10 Mammo would add 600% damage from your normal attack.

The Cart Ram's Damage is based upon the WEIGHT of the cart divided by 6% multipilied by ATK.

And we all know that STR and Cards can boost up our Normal ATK range resulting into a much stronger damage from the 2 skills.

Mammo damage relies on the Str of the smith to increase the number of his/her ATK Status

Cart Ram also relies on the Str of the smith to increase the number of his/her ATK status
Conclusion = STR = ATK :)

STR isnt everything. why? What if you have a High STR and a High AGI or VIT or DEX smith and a moderate of what is left. (Cart ram gives 50% chance of stunning your opponent every hit )
1) Yeah, your strong and fast but i can stun you easily and not allowing you to hit me.
2) Yeah, your damage is far more stronger than mine but i can do 4-6 Hits faster than you.
3. Yeah, Your Cart ram hurts like hell and you never miss a hit, but i can hit faster and damage you enough and allows me to stun you for the win

STR isnt everything. :)

STR is not everything... indeed..... so as speed




like INT us to wizzies and DEX is to snipers, we all know STR is not everything but it is a major stat of smiths.

like what i've said in my previous post, unlike BS, WS can maximize the use of STR without sacrificing dex, agi, and vit, thanks to extra 100 stat points, HP boost and better cards/equipts.

1. you can be as fast as hell but if your dmg is only half of that of your opponent and he's spamming mamos/CTs on you with decent dex to hit you, you wont stand a chance

2. STUN?you can have decent dex, high STR and good hp/def at d same time. who sez you cant? at vit 70, you can nullify 95-98% of the stun effect and duration.







@chino

as far as i know, d card effects still stocks and helps in overall CT dmg. STR+cart weight+card modifiers


hindi ako nagdududang panalo WS ni robert kesa sa WS mo, mas matino build nun kesa syo

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^-Exactly

Smith builds are very versatile... there are a lot of builds to choose from, ranging from STR upto DEX builds. Every build has its own purpose and has its on forte. So im advicing all the new smith build makers out there to know what kind of a smith they are /no1
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