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Post Your Build!/ Build Help; build or help on your ideas? post here
Topic Started: Jan 12 2005, 07:18 PM (19,389 Views)
Reignfire
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Dec 6 2005, 08:58 PM
@spikes, taasan mo pa agi mo.. hehe ,sarap mamo spam eh :headbang:

80 and above became too popular these days among my fellow WS here. it will be great for mammo spamming and pvp 1vs1, but usually my built conmtradicts with the popular ones. And since im retired as a battle whitesmith, i would like to air some comments and personal view regarding the builds..
(The following are STAT views for non-bosscarded BS/WS out there like myself. We all know we can do better and abuse some stats if we got bosscards, then again, these are for the "masa")

STR:

most prefer a flat 100 since many WS around dwel in AGI, believing it will be great in mammo-spamming, and the future-famous 3-cart termination attacks in 1.5-2 secs (a whoooping spamming damage more to be worried than EF or SP and SD)
if used with 180+ atkpd..but that will only be powerful like mammo if you got high amount of strength like STR 110-130 (with SGH or the coming cards in Einbroch, it is possible).


AGI:

most prefer 80 for atkspd 180, or 99+ in the tradition of Efirit, Adrenaline Boy and the likes. its a good to have high agi though, which helps in mammo-spmming, but be warned that too much atkspeed will also makes mammo-spamming a little difficult (you tend to attack instead of mamo) if you got what i mean..
AGi 80 is great, but it will be great if complemented with decent dex and high STR.
90-99+ AGI is good pvm-wise, but we all know its pretty invulnurable when left with less VIT, less def and less stat points for other STATS. Again, 99+ AGi is fantastic, especially if u got insane atkspeed (184 max with dopple if imy memory serves me right) But to make it VERY effective in other aspect like PVP,MVP, and WOE, you have to bosscarded, or at least be filthy-rich for +9s-+10s. Again, its not a necessity, but its patching up the clinch in the armor with very high AGI.


VIT:

most prefer 60, i wonder why..
the advent of rebirth jobs, ironically, makes WS neglect the true aspect of VIT, which is more important these patch and coming patches to come.
Why? with the introduction of Lord Knight and its Bersek and Spiral Pierce, Assasin Cross and its famous (and destructive) Soul Destroyer, and Champions' EF (which inflicts higher dmg now with extra 100 points for champs to spare for STR and INT compared to its ancessor Monks, do i need to say more?), you nid higher defense now to survive one, two or three attacks of these from them, and VIT def helps alot. A higher HP will be a great help more than ever expecially in WOE where High Wiz is much deadlier so need to compliment more HP other than magic def.
Again, WS need higher VIT more than before..


DEX:

with the advent of high-agi WS, the former standard 50 dex became 60 now (to add higher atkspd) which is a wise move since Snipers and SinX now, not to mention Berserk-mode of LKs are harder to hit now with just 45-50 dex. Its wise, but not a necessity to jive with dex 60 since dex 50 is fair enough, but for mamo-spammers and high-agi WS, its a good choice for them. I would like to emphasize that dex 50 is still standard as the minimum dex you could afford to have, but dex 60 is better for other builts out there. For zenny-thinking WS forgers, of course, the higher the dex, the better..


INT:

one of the neglected stat among BS/WS.
like what i mentioned in VIT stat, we nid more SP now more than ever.
Why? the amount of SP to maintain Power Thrust, Weapon Perfection, CraZy Uproar, and Power Maximize is indeed high. Added with mammo-spamming, cart boost and Meltdown (SP 100), and you got a little problem with sp. You will find yourself gulping for more RJellies, bluepots and YGGseeds more than ever like a thirsty-monk. Imagine this, what more if u finally got cart termination and Overthrust? again, we badly nid faster sp-regen and higher max sp pool than ever before. so better put a little INT in your final built (your spare stat points in your glorious 99 built).


LUCK:

Everyone nids luck, a high luck...but only in REAL LIFE.
Unless your a zenny-minded WS forgers or a
Im-Unique-Bcoz-Im-A-Cool-Critical BS/WS-type, a WS nids minimal luck, unless you have spare stat points in your final 99 level and choose lucky dodge and little crit over faster sp regen and higher sp pool...which is all up to you. personaly, i rather spend my spare stat points in INT than in LUCK.

like before and like in other international forums, i never gave my exact build.
its becoz i want other players feel the beauty in their own built and be proud of it, not just a cut-and-paste-standard-and-famous-built. Like in iRO, for example, many of the Wiz there before have insane amount of AGI than VIT, but i see them face 5-10 mobs single-handedly without any help from Priests. They level alone and mvp alone. Its a voodoo and stupid built when pRO players view it, but i find it unique, creative and fun too. They want their built to be like that and so be it. Thats the pride you should also have once in a while. You got to have a built of your own, the build of your own choice out of in-depth study and personal preference.
theres no such thing as a poor-crap built, it all boils down to the player. Of course, a little study/research will do better...

again, these are my personal views. plz dont flame me hehehe...
more power for my breathen Whitesmiths!
Power Maximize!!!!!
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tama tama ... galing galing.. *clap*clap* ... uhmm tol quit ka na pala /sob why .... /sob mamiss kita /sob ...

*more power trust to you sir Reignfire /no1
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Jan 11 2006, 09:16 AM
tama tama ... galing galing.. *clap*clap* ... uhmm tol quit ka na pala /sob why .... /sob mamiss kita /sob ...

*more power trust to you sir Reignfire /no1

Nid to concentrate more sa personal lyf ko including my family (nanay tatay, SINGLE pa ako!!!!), friends, girlfriend(s), and work.

Nver ako nag bot so hibernate ko muna sa 9* WS ko.

Bka laruin ko muna pari ng GF ko once in a while. (pag na warp bots nyo sa izlude trap map, baka ako yun heheehe, JOKE!~) :P



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Comment ko lang vit doesnt help much pagdating sa EF ng monk/champ. Bukod sa ignores defense ang EF, i doubt merong WS na magkakaron ng over 20k ang HP to survive an asura hit.

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Jan 11 2006, 11:25 AM
Comment ko lang vit doesnt help much pagdating sa EF ng monk/champ. Bukod sa ignores defense ang EF, i doubt merong WS na magkakaron ng over 20k ang HP to survive an asura hit.

Otherwise, reps for Reignfire!

Indeed.
but its still possible, if the monk has 400 sp or less (speaking of desperate times without sp pots, which is very visible in WOE) you could manage or hope to survive somehow..

still, VIT will be geat since there's other players to be worried about other than monks/champs like LKs, SinXs and HWiz.
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yah reignfire is right, pag bglaan attack , u cant determine kung mamamatay ka or not, what if kasi uso ang agi WS, eh kung hindi k pla agi, sabay low sp ginamit , ehdi buhay ka /e4 tsaka may chance p bumasag , im speaking in WOE. tsaka in some international boards, sabi talaga nila ang WS is more on highbreed talaga, kung gusto mo mamaw sa WOE ha. int is nided as well, pero kung mayaman ka sa seed or sp pots, di mo n nid nyan, lakas kumuha ng sp ang cart termi and meltdown, mas malakas pag yang 2 ang magaksama, pero may mga rumos p rin daw na ang power thrust and max overthrust is not stackable, so nid p rin int. for better sp consumption. dapat madami dami din dapat
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Lalabas pa ba talaga ang Max Overthrust at Cart Termination?
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Jan 11 2006, 02:31 PM
Lalabas pa ba talaga ang Max Overthrust at Cart Termination?

Yeah, but unfortunately bka sa Rise of the AI patch pa lumabas and not sa Einbroch patch. Like what i read sa international forums, overthrust and powerthrust is not stackable, but the fact that Overthrust gives higher additional atk %than powerthrust mas ok na rin yun cguro khit hindi stackable.
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Wahahaha! Balak ko pa naman kunin Auto Attack System Create, Overthrust at level 10 Cart Termination. Kaso mukang imposible na kasi magkukulang sa skill points, can't afford ako magpa-skill reset. /heh
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Jan 11 2006, 04:17 PM
Wahahaha! Balak ko pa naman kunin Auto Attack System Create, Overthrust at level 10 Cart Termination. Kaso mukang imposible na kasi magkukulang sa skill points, can't afford ako magpa-skill reset. /heh

BAD MOVE. sayang. check mo bka possible pa. Pag kinuha mo ksi weapon refine up to level 10 kukulangin ka tlga. kung forger build, go forger! pag battle, go battle! mahirap na i-hybrid na battleforger ang WS unless wla kang plano kunin ang Cart Termination up to level 10 OR 2 whitesmiths mo...

Pag pure battle whitesmith po ksi saktong-sakto lng skill points mo for the battle buffs, mammo10, cart termi10 at AAS...
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i have 17 skill points left /e4 ... khit sa rise of d AI pa yan hintayin ko yan /gg

gusto ko na maging halemaw mga WS /gg
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~Jebbito~ fullsupport dex type highpriest 99/68
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bijoux hybrid HSCR MasterSmith 90/57
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Wala akong kinuhang weapon refine kaso nung maga-allocate ako ng skill points nag-lag tas yun, nung nag-resume yung game level 2 na vending ko. Saka kasi job 45 lang yung high merchant ko, atat magka-WS eh. /heh
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hehe me lvl 10 OC lvl 4 vend lvl 10 enlarge weight /ok may merch nmn ako OCDCVEND eh .. so no need n para sa OC DC /no1
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~Jebbito~ fullsupport dex type highpriest 99/68
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`_kenzo_` int-dex minstrel 99/69
bijoux hybrid HSCR MasterSmith 90/57
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tingin nyo kelan dadating ung overthrust pati cart termination? /hmm
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tingin nyo kelan dadating ung overthrust pati cart termination? /hmm

lighthalzen, since iro gets in withing the month or the next, a fair guess would be 3-4 months
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