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| Steve King Accused of Felonious Assault!; Livonia council candidate faces felonious assault charge | |
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| M&M | Sep 22 2011, 06:55 PM Post #41 |
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There were no witnesses, yet the story was printed in the Observer without all of the facts. The article was front page center with a picture. How sad! |
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| Queen of Hearts | Sep 22 2011, 08:28 PM Post #42 |
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He plead Not Guilty and was bound over for trial in Wayne County Circuit Court Here is the OE update |
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| Queen of Hearts | Sep 22 2011, 08:33 PM Post #43 |
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Maybe he did call the police. I am sure that if he had, he would have been told to come to the station to file a report, especially if King didn't stick around (which I would have to believe he didn't). I don't think the police even come to the scene of an accident any more unless there are injuries or cars are un-drivable and blocking traffic. They tell you to come in and file a report. |
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| LPS Reformer | Sep 22 2011, 08:42 PM Post #44 |
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You honestly think the police would not come out if you call them saying someone just tried to kill you? |
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“Child Abuse” means different things to different people.... ----Randy Liepa 8/9/12 | |
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| RU Kidding Me? | Sep 22 2011, 09:00 PM Post #45 |
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I am told the police certainly do go out to accidents. The guy that told me this was sent to a house the other day to take a report regarding a mailbox that got hit. If they sent a car for that, they certainly would have sent a car for Kings reported incident. More likely there are "other reasons" the police weren't called. |
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| RU Kidding Me? | Sep 22 2011, 09:02 PM Post #46 |
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Edited by RU Kidding Me?, Sep 22 2011, 09:03 PM.
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| DADDYOH10 | Sep 22 2011, 09:03 PM Post #47 |
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Gee Whiz...If they will come out to see if minors need assaulting on the say so of a school administrator, they would surely come out to see who was trying to kill you...ya' think??? |
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| RU Kidding Me? | Sep 22 2011, 09:05 PM Post #48 |
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Learn what an assault is. Edited by RU Kidding Me?, Sep 22 2011, 09:29 PM.
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| Mrs.M | Sep 23 2011, 10:05 AM Post #49 |
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Semantics, understanding, quoting, legal jargon etc. I should probably watch some police shows, go to law school or improve my reading ability. An arrest warrant is a judge's order to law enforcement officers to arrest and bring to jail a person charged with a crime. Before an arrest warrant is issued, the district attorney, a police officer or an alleged victim must make a sworn statement that the accused person committed a crime. It is also called a warrant of arrest. An arrest warrant founded on probable cause gives the arresting officer the limited authority to enter a dwelling in which the suspect lives when there is reason to believe the suspect is within. Before entering a residence to execute an arrest warrant, an officer must have a reasonable belief that the suspect resides at the place to be entered and have reason to believe that the suspect is present at the time the warrant is executed. State laws vary, but generally if an arrest warrant and affidavit for arrest warrant have been filed with a court, then they must be released upon a request for public records. Information filed with a court is generally a matter of public record and may not be withheld from disclosure. The following is an example of a state statute dealing with arrest warrants: "Requisites of warrant It must specify the name of the person whose arrest is ordered, if it be known, if unknown, then some reasonably definite description must be given of him. It must state that the person is accused of some offense against the laws of the State, naming the offense. It must be signed by the magistrate, and his office be named in the body of the warrant, or in connection with his signature. Magistrate may issue warrant or summons: (a) A magistrate may issue a warrant of arrest or a summons: In any case in which he is by law authorized to order verbally the arrest of an offender; When any person shall make oath before the magistrate that another has committed some offense against the laws of the State; and In any case named in this Code where he is specially authorized to issue warrants of arrest. (b) A summons may be issued in any case where a warrant may be issued, and shall be in the same form as the warrant except that it shall summon the defendant to appear before a magistrate at a stated time and place. The summons shall be served upon a defendant by delivering a copy to him personally, or by leaving it at his dwelling house or usual place of abode with some person of suitable age and discretion then residing therein or by mailing it to the defendant's last known address. If a defendant fails to appear in response to the summons a warrant shall be issued." http://definitions.uslegal.com/a/arrest-warrant/ |
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| DADDYOH10 | Sep 23 2011, 03:53 PM Post #50 |
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Mrs. M...me thinks he doth protesteth too much, and his policeman is showing...what do you think? assualt: "a campaign or series of actions that aims to challenge or destroy something" IS THAT GOOD ENOUGH FOR YOU RU? |
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| Mrs.M | Sep 23 2011, 05:14 PM Post #51 |
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I do believe the 13 year old (via his mother) is being used as a poster child for the ACLU. I also believe the police, any city's police, would tend to believe what a person in authority was implying about their ward. I'd like to know where were the chaperones? I think possibly a new topic needs to be started regarding the accusations and what ensued when the 8th grade middle school students and teachers from a Canton school partied at a Livonia park. (It was called an 8 grade graduation party) Concerning the definition of 'arrest'. I questioned the use of the word 'arrested' in a post, since the Observer hadn't used the actual word 'arrest' in their first report of the supposed incident in the parking lot north of the BP gas station (located at the NE corner ;)) of 6 mile and Farmington. RU's comments have been OK, with me, in fact a bit humorous, honestly. |
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| DADDYOH10 | Sep 23 2011, 07:14 PM Post #52 |
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Agreed...the humor sometimes is a bit on the dark side, without emotion, and funny when they go way over the top. The "field trips" as I will call this, are oft time not chaparoned well. In LPS a lot have not been with school transportation and I was appalled when this first started ...that parents were driving children other than their own to sanctioned events without first being scrutinized by the school or the district. Some of them even left the state (Toledo Art Museum). Just who am I sending my child with??? A drunk, a molester? An abuser? Someone prone to illnesses that would impair driving?Or just good old plain parents? The not knowing who is chaparoning became such an issue (til the district changed some of those policies) that I kept my children home. We went to our own museum, in our state, not nearly as far from the district for elementary children as Toledo! And better for our own local economies. I too will be waiting for more info on this news item. As for the ACLU, they oft times have their own agenda, but they can be a refuge for people that have been taken advantage of by the powers that be, and sometimes at a more reasonable fee. |
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| RU Kidding Me? | Sep 23 2011, 10:23 PM Post #53 |
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Actually it's not. The LEGAL definition, which is the field we are dealing in, defines the word as, "An unlawful threat or attempt to harm another PHYSICALLY." Maybe if you spelled the word correctly you could better define it. Also, you didn't quite get the support from Mrs. M that you had anticipated, did you? I knew what her post meant.....Mrs. M spoon fed you a place to get the proper/legal definition, yet for some reason you didn't take the 10 seconds to look it up. Common sense says your definition doesn't fit the word in the context it is being used in this instance. Every legal definition, which there are many, indicate harm PHYSICALLY. As far as guessing my profession, you are wrong. Edited by RU Kidding Me?, Sep 24 2011, 09:58 AM.
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| Extra Olives | Sep 24 2011, 12:21 AM Post #54 |
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Had he called the police from the parking lot, they most certainly would have sent an officer or two because that parking lot is now an alleged crime scene. They would have gone into the SOS and inquired about potential witnesses. They would have checked for any skid marks on the pavement. doesn't the office have a huge front window? If so, someone must have seen something, especially when you're sitting and waiting and staring aimlessly out the window. A car getting "repo'd" would certainly be entertainment for the bored folks in the SOS. The fact that the tow truck driver did not call the police right there is peculiar to say the least. If a car is barreling toward you, wouldn't you call? Not saying it didn't happen, it's just odd he didn't call for help right away. By the way, does anyone know what towing company the guy works for? |
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| Mrs.M | Sep 24 2011, 09:58 AM Post #55 |
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I suppose depending on what time the repo guy went to the police station, the SOS could have been closed. Absolutely right about the windows...and if the weather was as good as it's been, there probably were people standing outside waiting for their number, and the smokers. Livonia School Board Member Charged With Felonious Assault However, King now faces legal trouble for allegedly trying to run down a man attempting to repossess his 2004 Volkswagen Touareg for nonpayment. Jack Ostoin, who owns J and D Auto Recovery in Livonia, said King tried to run him down when he showed up with his wrecker. http://www.clickondetroit.com/news/29282502/detail.html |
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| M&M | Sep 24 2011, 02:47 PM Post #56 |
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The fact of matter still remains. There were NO witnesses. In my opinion, the owner of the towing place had make a round trip to and from Detroit with no vehicle in tow. The story posts R&D was located in Livonia, it was located in Detroit. The tow truck driver wasted his time, gas and additional wear on a tired truck. He must have been very upset about those factors. The tow truck he is claiming is NOW damaged does not look in the best of condition. If a person were truly trying to run you over, the police could and would have been there within minutes. There is a very strong possibility he did not place a call to the police to save his own life, because it simply was not true. I am sure there were probably strong words going back and forth considering the reason for the encounter, but I do not know because, I was not there to witness. |
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| DADDYOH10 | Sep 24 2011, 02:50 PM Post #57 |
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thanks, but I don't have to be legal here...this is not a courtroom. Secondly, I'm not spoon fed as you suggest, from Mrs. M. or anyone. And, thirdly, has some one made you you the spelling poice and do you treat all posts with the same rank and tilt? ASSAULT, FELL BETTER NOW? |
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| RU Kidding Me? | Sep 24 2011, 03:50 PM Post #58 |
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If talking about a legal situation it would be best to use legal terms. You don't HAVE to, but your posts make more sense. Secondly, you obviously don't understand the term "spoon fed." Lastly, I am sorry but I can't possibly pass this one up. No, I do not "FELL" better. Edited by RU Kidding Me?, Sep 24 2011, 04:09 PM.
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| LPS Reformer | Sep 25 2011, 09:42 PM Post #59 |
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Steve has addressed the issue on his blog: Vote Steve King You will also find a copy of the clear title for his car posted. |
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| Otis B. | Sep 26 2011, 10:12 AM Post #60 |
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Now the smear campaign is using birther tactics and accusing Steve of photoshopping the title. |
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