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| Sage | May 14 2011, 06:28 PM Post #1 |
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http://www.freep.com/article/20110514/NEWS15/105140392/Some-conservative-fans-want-GOP-rocker-McCotter-presidential-race Some conservative fans want GOP rocker McCotter in presidential race WASHINGTON -- Just consider it, how about a real rock 'n' roll president: U.S. Rep. Thaddeus McCotter. OK, it's a long shot. No, it's a pipe dream. But it's an idea being bandied about by a handful of conservative pundits. Greg Gutfeld, the host of Fox News' "Red Eye" -- where the Livonia Republican is a frequent guest -- called McCotter "one of the few pols who seem less interested in impressing celebrities or making cheap points of sentimentality than in preserving the freedoms unique to our island nation." McCotter seems genuinely bemused by the talk -- though he's not outright rejecting it -- and his political future remains a bit hazy. Redistricting could upset a re-election run in his home district, depending on how lines are drawn, and, on Friday, the guitar-playing, rock-ribbed Republican said he wouldn't be taking on Democratic Sen. Debbie Stabenow next year. Quick-witted, sardonic, quick to quote political philosophers and rock lyrics, McCotter remains an enigma among Michigan politicians. McCotter rules out running against Stabenow, but what's next for Livonia Republican? WASHINGTON -- Whatever U.S. Rep. Thaddeus McCotter will be doing a year from now, it won't be challenging U.S. Sen. Debbie Stabenow for her seat. McCotter, a Livonia Republican, told the Free Press on Friday that he has decided against challenging the Democrat because to run against her, he would have to make a decision now -- and he wasn't prepared to commit to the race. To wait longer to decide, though, could continue to throw doubts on the potential candidacies of others, among them former state GOP Chairman Saul Anuzis and Dr. Robert Steele, who lost a congressional challenge to Rep. John Dingell last year. The real question is what McCotter -- cerebral, quick-witted and sardonic -- will be doing next. He could, of course, run again for Congress, but that will depend largely on how district lines are redrawn by the Legislature, based on the 2010 census. In any event, predicting McCotter's course is often a difficult task. For instance, last year, he talked up the idea of getting rid of the House Republican Policy Committee -- a panel he chaired -- as an example of how serious the GOP was about cutting costs in tough budget times. He has since left the position, though the committee remains. He penned a book, "Seize Freedom! American Truths and Renewal in a Chaotic Age," in which he attempts to draw distinctions between the parties and their political philosophies, as well as discussing the danger of Republicans falling into ideological niches. The son of a first-generation Irish-Catholic American who was a Truman Democrat, McCotter has remained a staunch conservative who still believes labor unions and management can work together, instead of always being at war. Tall, thin and balding, he plays a mean guitar; listens to the Rolling Stones and Alice Cooper ("School's Out" is a current fave on his iPod) and quotes conservative political deep thinkers like Edmund Burke and Russell Kirk. "He marches to his own beat. He is not your boardroom Republican," said Tom Shields, a Lansing political consultant. "Every time I run into him, he's sitting in with a rock band at the (Detroit Regional Chamber Mackinac Conference). He feels just as comfortable there as he does in a committee room." He is not, however, one to mince words, and is conservative when it comes to matters of free markets, big government and taxes. McCotter was among 59 Republicans voting against the leadership's budget deal with President Barack Obama in April. He has been a vocal critic of financial bailouts (though he was supportive of help for the auto industry). He is an unapologetic devotee to the conservative cause. Writing in the publication Human Events recently, he said, "Less than two years after leftists and their parroting pundits proclaimed our party's epitaph, resilient Republicans have arisen anew to define freedom for this new American century ... fighting for self-government, not big government." For that, he has attracted the attention of a number of conservative pundits who have suggested he should run for president. He is a regular on Fox News' "Red Eye." Last month, New York Daily News columnist S.E. Cupp called him the anti-Obama. "Amid a sea of slick salesmen vying for the Oval Office, including the man who currently occupies it, McCotter's disregard for personal glory, his contempt for power grabs and his ability to bring common-sense solutions to some of our most nagging national problems might not make him the darling of the political glitterati," she wrote. "It should, however, make him a candidate for president." For his part, McCotter's not making predictions about his future. He's heard the presidential rumors: For now, he says, "I'm just trying to do my job." But he's also not saying whether he expects to run again in his district, which Obama won by 9 points three years ago, and which could change dramatically in redistricting, making it either harder or easier to win re-election. Some Democrats are privately speculating that Jocelyn Benson, the Democrat who lost the race for Secretary of State last year, might run against him, though she said she's "not a candidate for anything at this point in time." Haley Morris, with the Democratic Congressional Campaign Committee, argued that McCotter's politics are out of step with his district and Michigan: "Why would Michiganders vote to keep him in Washington at any level?" she asked. McCotter said his decision not to run against Stabenow is an issue of getting out of the way because he is not ready to make an affirmative decision to enter the race and waiting -- he called it "playing around like Hamlet" -- while other candidates hang fire over his decision "wouldn't be cool." That, said Bill Ballenger, publisher of Lansing-based Inside Michigan Politics, may be a blow to the Republicans. "I think his decision deprives them of their most intellectually rigorous candidate to run against Stabenow," he said. Like him or hate him -- and Ballenger says McCotter can rub people the wrong way -- he can be effective. Though, without question, "many people find him eccentric." "He's too eccentric to run for president," Ballenger said. WJR-AM's (760) Frank Beckmann, a conservative talk show host, has interviewed McCotter many times; he considers McCotter "more eclectic" than any other member of the state's congressional delegation that he has encountered. He is uncertain how McCotter's dry sense of humor -- solemnly invoking Led Zeppelin's "The Song Remains the Same" on the House floor while referring to Democratic policies, for instance -- might go over nationally. "Is America ready for someone with a little different personality like that?" Beckman asked. "I wouldn't see any problem with him as a candidate, though, based on the issues." When "Red Eye" host Greg Gutfeld floated the idea to McCotter last month, saying, "You could do this job," McCotter responded: "I could do your job. But then so could a trained lemur." Contact TODD SPANGLER at 202-906-8203 or attspangler@freepress.com. |
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| n73pm | May 15 2011, 01:52 AM Post #2 |
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I like him just where he is .... for now. |
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| George | May 15 2011, 02:12 PM Post #3 |
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I really hope not. Rock and Roll candidate, where did they ever get that from? Have you ever heard him speak? Boring....... |
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| DADDYOH10 | May 16 2011, 04:21 PM Post #4 |
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McCotter for President??? the guy who stands not for much of anything, does even less for his constituents, hides between elections (except to appear at rock and roll events or a photo op), counts on being an incumbent as his qualifications for his job, and is for the most part, a left over from the brow beating Bush era, as rubber stamper if there ever was one! WE NEED FRESH NEW BLOOD IN OUR SEAT IN CONGRESS. Maybe re-districting can help us shake off this worn out, unworthy individual. Let him come home and find a real job that he can do, if that is possible! |
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| Doctor_Bojangles | May 16 2011, 09:29 PM Post #5 |
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I think this is the second thread DaddyOH10 has been bashing Thad. Whats your deal? Still mad that Natalie Mosher lost? Boo hoo.Thad would be a lot better in the White House then what we have now. He understands that we can't spend money that we don't have and is not afraid of the Washington establishment. Aren't you worried about inflaction or passing along the debt to your kids and grand kids? Do you really want a healthcare system that does nothing but create more bureaucracy? Look at Greece or hell, look at Detroit and see how long term liberal leadership has crushed the people who live there. Those poor souls in Detroit don't realize the black hole their tax money are trying to fill. They think they are getting stuff for nothing, but in reality they pay in a big way. Thad doesn't hide either. Everytime I e-mail him, I get a real, personalized response each time. Just because he doesn't show up at your McDonalds to shake hands, doesn't mean he is hiding. Would you rather see him playing golf, going on vacations on our dime like our current President? He has work to do and does a fine job. Rubber Stamp? This guy stands up to the Repubics and phonies. We need to elect more fiscal conservatives in all areas of government. Real Americans love their freedom and want free markets to handle our wants and needs. Think about it.. |
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| n73pm | May 16 2011, 10:27 PM Post #6 |
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DITTOS!!!! |
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| DADDYOH10 | May 17 2011, 09:33 PM Post #7 |
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Boy, you folks must be brain dead, blind or both... cause there is notihing in Mc's resume that says he did not rubber stamp Bush policies, that did not pay for a war or two, both of which were unneccesary, by borrowing money from foreigners and basically by deregulation created the housing bubble, which has burst into a grand recession and the consequent "cash-strapped communties, school boards....watch the results of voting for "REPUBLICS" (republican) issues and there is Mc. doing his best to be a sheep in the herd, not a leader to be heard! All those tax cuts for the rich over the past ten years have not created any jobs, but, boy his friends and family have made out like bandits at the public trough. The one that you must love to fill every time it is empty. Turn your wallet inside out and throw in your watch too! Turn off the spigot and watch who turns blue! It is not really about Ms. Mosher, but rather about what doesn't get done and who is it that he is beholden to! What a joke...fiscal conservative...where did you hear that? on Fox News? ...that is a pretty big couple of words to sling around, and oh so convenient when it comes to an overly worn out and useless phase. That is the lie that republicans like you to believe. I think Thad would be great in the White House though, as a shoe shine man. |
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| uh-oh | May 18 2011, 11:17 AM Post #8 |
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I love when libs blame conservatives for the banking mess. FYI, Dodd and Frank are more to blame for the meltdown than anyone else. Prior to Barney Frank taking over as chairman of the House Financial Services Committee in 2006 I think, he yammered on and on about how the banks were facing too much regulatory requirements. He spent his time on that committee working with his collegues to lesson reporting requirements. In addition, it was the Clinton administration who beefed up the 1977 Community Reinvestment Act which ultimately pressured Fannie and Freddie to start making all those high-risk loans. Bush didn't change those policies, but he didn't create them either! Get your facts straight Daddy. Also, it is your President who continues to rubber stamp Bush policies, from tax cuts to war policies--the only smart things he has done in two years. |
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| Doctor_Bojangles | May 18 2011, 09:48 PM Post #9 |
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I hate to tell you this, but all of them voted for the wars. Barack Hussein Obama voted for every funding bill that was presented while he was in the Senate. Hillary Clinton and John Kerry also voted to authorize war in Iraq when it was presented. Mind you, they had the same information presented to them that Mr. Bush had. When it comes to the wars, both parties were involved. Where do you think our deficit spending is coming from? China holds a lot of our dept which is a big time national security issue. When you borrow, you usually have to pay it back eventually. When do you exepct all this money back? Our kids and grand kids will be responsible. We will be giving our children a worse America then the one we inherited. You didn't like the housing bubble, I am sure you won't like it when America's bubble starts to burst. Will we have to sell states to China to cover the dept? Ideas like selling Hawaii and Alaska have already started popping up in the news media. Is that the kind of America we want? One that our sitting President bows to leaders and apologizes for American values and lifestyles? We are the most powerful nation in the world, we need to start acting like it. For the school and local funding, there is so much waste going around its not even funny. Our schools especially, get ripped off by vendors day in and day out. I worked in govenment for five years, during that time I have seen vendors try to rip them off with bad service, over priced products and broken promises. Schools should start getting competitive bids for everything, I don't care if its toilet paper, it should be bidded out. I can buy a giant stack of toilet paper at Costco for $7 or so.. I would bet that our school system pays 3 times that. I bet the phone bills, cable TV and other bills can be bidded out. We could also pool our resources with Plymouth-Canton, South Redford, Redford Union, Farmington to buy items at once for a reduced cost. Offer one of our boarded up schools as a warehouse for these items. Communities are sharing Police/Fire dispatch, why not share educational supply costs? This needs to happen at all levels of government. That is what being fiscal conservative is, living within your means with the tax money they collect. All responsible Americans don't spend more then they make, why can't our government? One last point.. Thad voted against Speaker Boehner negotiated with the President , saying that Speaker Boehner caved. He voted correctly because the cuts did not go deep enough. Again, the money is not there, so we can't afford it. He voted against his fellow Republicans on this, doesn't sound like a rubber stamp to me. Hopefully I have cleared up some of your confusion. Edited by Doctor_Bojangles, May 18 2011, 10:00 PM.
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| Doctor_Bojangles | May 24 2011, 11:42 AM Post #10 |
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Still waiting on DADDYOH10 to respond to my post. He seemed to be talkative on the Freep regarding Thad's short comings. http://www.freep.com/article/20110524/NEWS15/110524015/Rep-Thaddeus-McCotter-gets-serious-about-possible-bid-president I would be happy to donate and work his bid for President. |
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| Sage | May 24 2011, 03:23 PM Post #11 |
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I checked out the Freep story. Can someone explain to me what McCotter's following quote (excerpted) means? "... whether moral relativism erodes a nation built on self-evident truth.” Thad McCotter |
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| LPS Reformer | May 24 2011, 08:32 PM Post #12 |
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Definition of Moral Relavism: "The philosophized notion that right and wrong are not absolute values, but are personalized according to the individual and his or her circumstances or cultural orientation." From The Declaration of Independence "We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness." So, I have to think he means that in the past the vast majority of us would have agreed it's immoral to beat someone up and take his wallet. When you make excuses for the thief (his childhood, poverty, racism, etc) you encourage thievery. |
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| Sage | May 24 2011, 09:17 PM Post #13 |
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The conflict is in that this country is founded on absolutes, which in reality it is not. It's not black and white, relatively speaking. I'm not making excuses for anyone here. |
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| Otis B. | May 25 2011, 09:41 AM Post #14 |
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Why would Thad turn down running for Stabenow's Senate seat, which he has a great shot of winning, but consider a Presidential run with virtually no name recognition outside of Michigan and very little money? It doesn't add up. |
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| DADDYOH10 | May 25 2011, 06:21 PM Post #15 |
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Sorry, no confusion here...I'm afraid Obama's plan is slowly working. And, yes, there are democrats who are complicit. Who you going to vote for? Big business and a prayer, or regular folks who really make the world go round. The lies that Bush told and choreographed were just the beginning of our being assaulted and robbed. War is good business. Except for those who lose an arm, a leg, their family, their house, their job, their sanity, and of course the richest among us. I agree with the schools issue, but changing that culture will be like paddling upstream. You can cut all you want, but if you do not grow the bone, there will not be any meat left |
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| uh-oh | May 27 2011, 08:55 AM Post #16 |
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Obama isn't growing the bone, rather, he is growing the cancer which is consuming the bone. All the guy does is spend, spend, spend with little result on the economy or jobs other than to put us further in hock. Plus, the costly growth of gov't in the form of mandated health care, and energy controls do nothing but hurt small business, which in turn depresses the economy. It may be a pipe dream, but I hope his health care plan is deemed unconstitutional. One a positive note, I am loving Gov. Snyder. Finally a business person with a backbone in lansing. His education reforms and tax on pensions are fair and just what Michigan needs IMO. |
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| Momof4 | May 27 2011, 09:11 PM Post #17 |
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Now come on Uh Oh, you are being so harsh... don't you know that Obama's spending is good for the country? And see below to see how GOOD we all should feel about the gas prices. I remember a few years ago driving with someone who would say, "Gas is 1.89 a gallon - Thanks George!" because Pres. Bush was the reason that gas was $1.89 - who should we blame now? Hypocrisy at its best |
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| Administrator | May 27 2011, 10:10 PM Post #18 |
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McCotter for president? Reports say he is considering it http://www.hometownlife.com/article/20110525/NEWS10/110525010/1027/rss18 Written by Ken Abramczyk U.S. Rep. Thaddeus McCotter, R-Livonia, told Politico he’s considering a run for the presidency in 2012 and will make a decision in the next couple of weeks. / File Photo U.S. Rep. Thaddeus McCotter, R-Livonia, is considering a run for president, according to published reports. On Monday, McCotter told Politico he is seriously considering a run and will make a decision in the next two weeks. “I think the majority of the Republican electorate isn’t happy with the choices they’ve got and want to take a look at new people,” he said. The Observer contacted McCotter’s office for comment on the report Tuesday. McCotter’s office responded: “Representative McCotter has nothing to add to the Politico story at this time.” Other Republicans who are running or expected to run are former Massachusetts Gov. Mitt Romney, former Speaker of the House Newt Gingrich, former Minnesota Gov. Tim Pawlenty, former Sen. Rick Santorum of Pennsylvania and former Utah Gov. John Huntsman. Former vice presidential candidate Sarah Palin and Minnesota Rep. Michele Bachmann are considering running. McCotter is in his fifth two-year term in U.S. Congress, representing western Wayne and western Oakland counties, including his hometown of Livonia. Prior to his election in 2002 to Congress, McCotter also served as a state representative, Wayne County commissioner and Schoolcraft College trustee. http://www.hometownlife.com/article/20110525/NEWS10/110525010/1027/rss18 |
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| DADDYOH10 | May 28 2011, 10:17 PM Post #19 |
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Big deal...gas prices were $.38 in 1970 - and they gave you green/red stamps, silverware, plates, cups, mugs, and such, right after they washed your windshield and checked your oil. Who do I blame for that NOT BEING THE CASE ANY LONGER? Eisenhower? Kennedy? Regan? They are history! Who are you going to blame when you don't have a pension, or Paul Ryan hands you a coupon for $6,000.00 and tells you you to pick up the tab so we can pay for all these tax hikes republicans are putting on us and then blaming Democrats. When Bush left office we were bleeding 750,000 jobs per month! If you chose to ignore the fact that things have improved (not as fast as we would like) and the stimulus did some good, then that is the glass half empty view of life you can bang YOUR head against if that suites you. Trickle down economics does not work and has been proven so, time after time. All that extra that gas costs now??? It is the "shared sacrifice" you are being told to make so big biz can share in your wallet, savings, checking, and did I remember the Credit too? Bush never had a clue (MISSION ACCOMPLISHED). Besides he was kissing the Saudi's you know what, as well as working for them, yeah....the real Americanism and the true spirit of the entrepeneurship that we all seek. Heck, he couldn't even run a baseball team! |
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| Momof4 | May 28 2011, 11:55 PM Post #20 |
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You completely missed the point... regardless of what you think of Bush -- I'm not his biggest fan either -- it's humorous how NOW with Barry in office the high gas prices are a blessing. I don't see the improvement you are talking about. But unlike you, I don't blame the government for everything. The point is now that there is a Democrat in the oval office we are suppose to be thankful for everything he says and does. No thanks. I am neither a Rep or Dem, so don't play your us and them games with me. But I can't ignore or think its just a coincidence that the media isn't pointing out all his mistakes and faux pas - and yes, they exist. We are just to smile and think he is just the greatest thing since sliced bread fighting the evil republicans. |
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