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Elections in and around Livonia; Letters from LPS legal department
Topic Started: Apr 16 2010, 12:58 PM (4,749 Views)
This_Is_Crazy
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Jun 24 2010, 09:47 PM
You may notice that she has no problem with blunt speech, when she is the one using it.



Did I hear Ms. Scheel right? Here is a direct quote:

"I feel what she has done is wrong and the board should have a board of ethics that they follow and that there should be repercussions for those people who do not follow them. Therefore, it is my opinion, that her resignation should be asked for and given immediately."

Yes! I agree Ms. Scheel. You should resign immediately for your behavior as it relates to Mr. Romick on Monday night. Your behavior was unethical and inappropriate and, frankly, a little bizarre. A citizen asked a legitimate question and look what you went off and did! The microphone was purposefully silenced. Yes, "the board should have a board of ethics that they follow" and you, Ms. Scheel, have not followed them. And, yes, "there should be repercussions for those people who do not follow them". You should resign! There should be repercussions for any board president who snuffs out the legitimate voice of the public regardless of the legitimate subject content! Whether you like that particular content or not. Therefore, it is my opinion, that your resignation be asked for and given immediately!
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Jun 24 2010, 11:10 PM
It is my understanding these letters were possibly subject to FOIA anyway. If someone were determined enough to get them.

I do not take this as a personal attack on myself, and Loyd Romick is in no way speaking for me. I am sure LPS understands that Loyd speaks for himself. Like it or not.

I sent in a FOIA request for the information that same night.
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I still cannot believe the majority of Livonia likes this BOE and their representation.
Edited by uh-oh, Jun 25 2010, 05:26 PM.
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That woman is just plain nasty!!!! She could not have been happier to have John Grzbeck (SIC) speak next so that all the BOE could be told yet again by this guy how great they are. I have had to stop watching these meetings because it makes me sick to my stomach that our district is lead by these clowns.
Edited by RU Kidding Me?, Jun 25 2010, 07:26 PM.
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uh-oh
Jun 25 2010, 05:26 PM
I still cannot believe the majority of Livonia likes this BOE and their representation.
I do not believe that either.
I am forced to believe that the majority of VOTING Livonia likes this BOE and their representation. The majority of VOTING Livonia (that I observed outside the polls on two separate occasions) does not have school aged children.

On the same thought process, I am confident that if it were put to a vote whether to adopt the LI or to close some schools and keep the K-6 configuration, we'd not be faced with the problems a 5-6 schools pose. If not b/c parents like K-6 better than b/c the voting population of Livonia don't want too much change. I mean, really, if they think that things are OK now, why in the world would they have wanted to change when things actually were good?!
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Plain sick!! Scheel should take her own advise.....RESIGN! and You should do it soon. There is no doubt about what she did, shutting the sound off for the viewing public. Public Education??? Not in this district, it is not allowed here in Livonia!! :X The public has no say!
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Apparently she believes in Free Speech, but only if she agrees with it.

And this woman wants to be on city council? :X
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Of course, Lynda isn't the only one to have problems with decorum. Mr. Freeman, for example, takes it down to a brand new level.....

...teenager.



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Letter #3 today
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I have edited all the Letters. I am not trying to poke someone here, but I am confused as to what type of retraction is wanted. In the second letter, Kellar Thoma acknowledges the first retraction, so I assume that is what they are looking for. It’s the best I can do to my knowledge.


Retraction......

A post was made on this board suggesting LPS employees Lisa Abbey and Ray Raymond were engaging in a sexual and adulterous relationship. There is absolutely no truth to these statements.
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Jul 31 2010, 10:14 AM
I have edited all the Letters. I am not trying to poke someone here, but I am confused as to what type of retraction is wanted. In the second letter, Kellar Thoma acknowledges the first retraction, so I assume that is what they are looking for. It’s the best I can do to my knowledge.


Retraction......

A post was made on this board suggesting LPS employees Lisa Abbey and Ray Raymond were engaging in a sexual and adulterous relationship. There is absolutely no truth to these statements.
I think this is getting out of control. I understand the request to edit the statements out of their letters, it makes sense. But, I think LPS money can be better spent than to hire attorneys to write letters, not to mention the time being spent monitoring this site. I simple reminder from LPS, via email to you, that the letters contain the statement originally causing the problem is enough.
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User George's post from another thread...

I do believe that this statement has satisfied Keller Tomas' request, period. Now LPS needs to stop wasting anymore time or money on this. It's all too crazy.

In the first place, the whole thing was blown out of proportion. The attorney who wrote the original letter blew it, IMO. As it has been stated before, it they just left it alone we wouldn't even be talking about this "NON" issue.


I moved your post here George. I forgot to close the other topic, and would like to keep discussion on this subject here. Sorry...my bad :)



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George is absolutely correct. LPS and their attorney brought this to the forefront again and are blowing it way out of proportion. Perhaps the mentioned LPS employees should take this up with them, I'm sure their hope is that this would all go away and it is not going to happen the more the attorney keeps picking at it. I feel it is the attorney's error......the administrator of this site did all they asked. Keller Thoma/Sashital did not state in their first letters that they did not want their corrrespondence published or if published all names and quotes should be removed. Or perhaps they expect the public to read their minds.....this is what we said but this is really what we meant :X I sometimes wish I was still oblvious to the crap this school district/BOE pulls. Ignorance was bliss pre the big LIe.
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Unfortunately, people don't seem to pay attention until letters like these are posted. I guess thats the society we now live in :( .
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"A post was made on this board suggesting LPS employees Lisa Abbey and Ray Raymond were engaging in a sexual and adulterous relationship. There is absolutely no truth to these statements. "

Maybe you should make this the signature line for all posters. ;)
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Jun 24 2010, 11:10 PM
It is my understanding these letters were possibly subject to FOIA anyway. If someone were determined enough to get them.

I do not take this as a personal attack on myself, and Loyd Romick is in no way speaking for me. I am sure LPS understands that Loyd speaks for himself. Like it or not.

I sent in a FOIA request for the information that same night.
Apparently someone told Lynda that she did not have authority to block FOIAs.

Sorry for the delay in posting.

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LPS and their henchmen (ahem, attorneys) don't have a leg to stand on. The letters were paid for with public funds, so they are therefore, public property. If they don't want their letters posted here, or anywhere else, they shouldn't write them.
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Aug 10 2010, 12:09 PM
LPS and their henchmen (ahem, attorneys) don't have a leg to stand on. The letters were paid for with public funds, so they are therefore, public property. If they don't want their letters posted here, or anywhere else, they shouldn't write them.
GOOD POINT!!!!
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Letters from lawyers intimidate people, because they worry about the worst case senario...a lawsuit they would have to pay their own legal counsel to defend. That's what make them pretty effective against the average guy. In reality, they are often no more than idle threats.
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Sounds like the actions of a "bully". ;)
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