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Lovefest for Brosnan; Observer 10/29
Topic Started: Oct 29 2009, 05:45 PM (719 Views)
Mrs.M
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http://www.hometownlife.com/article/20091029/OPINION03/910290617/1199/NEWS10/Letters+to+Livonia+editor
No Granholm proponent

Maureen Miller Brosnan says she has new ideas that she will bring to the Livonia City Council. Hopefully, they are not the same type of ideas as promised by her greatest advocate, Gov. Jennifer Granholm.

When Maureen Miller Brosnan ran for mayor two years ago, Gov. Granholm held fund-raisers for Maureen Miller Brosnan and gave her a $10,000 contribution. Considering the state of the government in Lansing, I would rather not have a Granholm proponent and supporter making decisions in the Livonia City Council. Times are hard enough as it is!

Jilian Milkiewicz
Livonia


Brosnan not a leader

Maureen Miller Brosnan, who is a Granholm appointee and former campaign spokesperson, criticizes Livonia leaders who supported the annexation of the former Northville Psychiatric Hospital property. She contends that while it was legal, it was immoral and wrong.

Why is Ms. Brosnan criticizing Livonia leaders but not the union leaders who also supported it? In the political coup orchestrated by the Granholm administration and Kilpatrick, Ms. Brosnan stood silent on the sidelines as $29.1 million of our taxpayer dollars was spent to have Quicken Loans (Rock Financial) move from Livonia to Detroit. Why doesn't she speak out when it really matters? Ms. Brosnan is quick to criticize Livonia leaders, but she has proven herself unwilling to stand up to Gov. Jennifer Granholm. Is Gov. Granholm's $10,000 contribution to Ms. Brosnan's mayoral campaign the reason for her silence?

How can Ms. Brosnan question the morality of Livonia leaders when she failed to speak out against the loss of hundreds of jobs and one of Livonia's biggest taxpayers? Ms. Brosnan's criticism of Livonia leaders when she refuses to criticize Gov. Granholm is pure hypocrisy. Again, this politics at its worst!

If Ms. Brosnan wants to be a leader and stand up for Livonia, I suggest that she tell Gov. Granholm not to cut $7.7 million from the Livonia Public Schools budget. How many times must Gov. Granholm hurt Livonia before we hear anything from Ms. Brosnan?

Ms. Brosnan says that Livonia needs bold leadership. Ms. Brosnan is not one who will provide it. Instead, we will see Granholm-type promises and Granholm-type results all at our expense.

On Tuesday, Nov. 3, I will be voting for a bold leader who will speak up for the city of Livonia when it really matters, not Maureen Miller Brosnan.

Michael S. Mitchell
Livonia


Brosnan dividing city

Maureen Miller Brosnan has resorted to the use of a blatant untruth in her campaign for City Council.

To promote her candidacy, Brosnan is misrepresenting the role of the mayor and members of Council in the August 2008 Northville Annexation ballot issue.

At the Sept. 29 Livonia Chamber of Commerce Candidates Night she made this verbatim statement, “Last year when the mayor and Council launched a plan to annex part of Northville Township ...” Not true! She further uses the same allegation as her headline issue on her Web site.

Ms. Brosnan should understand that state law makes it impossible for the mayor and the council to initiate any annexation of any land outside of our city boundaries.

This attempt to annex was the result of a petition from Northville residents to annex to Livonia. Livonia leaders did nothing to encourage this action. Once this issue was placed on the ballot, Livonia leaders acted in the best interest of the city, regardless of personal opinion. If they opposed the Northville initiative they would be giving up much-needed new revenue. Supporting the ballot question created the critics who felt it was wrong to annex property.

Brosnan's misrepresentation raises the question, why would she (who attempts to portray herself as a leader for the future) devote so much of her campaign rhetoric to an issue from the past that was decided by voters?

Is Brosnan, for political self-gain, trying to fan the embers of discontent and demonize our current Livonia leaders? This apparently is seen by Brosnan as a chance to appeal to voters who opposed the annexation and present herself as a leader who would have fought against annexation (a self-appointed voice of reason). Isn't this a classic case of opportunism, Monday morning quarter backing, and petty politicking?

Facing historically difficult times, this is not the time to divide the city over a chapter that was closed 15 months ago and not the time to recycle a former council person who misrepresents facts for her own gain.

Gary Copi
Livonia
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Mrs.M
Oct 29 2009, 05:45 PM
http://www.hometownlife.com/article/20091029/OPINION03/910290617/1199/NEWS10/Letters+to+Livonia+editor
No Granholm proponent

Maureen Miller Brosnan says she has new ideas that she will bring to the Livonia City Council. Hopefully, they are not the same type of ideas as promised by her greatest advocate, Gov. Jennifer Granholm.

When Maureen Miller Brosnan ran for mayor two years ago, Gov. Granholm held fund-raisers for Maureen Miller Brosnan and gave her a $10,000 contribution. Considering the state of the government in Lansing, I would rather not have a Granholm proponent and supporter making decisions in the Livonia City Council. Times are hard enough as it is!

Jilian Milkiewicz
Livonia

ah, Jilian, riding on Grandpa Kirksey's coattails?
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Administrator of this site has posted that he received a mailing from Wayne 11th. Here are the officers and Board members of the Wayne 11th Republican organization. Note the members from Redford, Canton, Plymouth, Northville, Westland and Wayne.

In the Mayor's race over $30,000 was spent by a committee from the Wayne 11th. I do not know if it was a PAC or the committee itself. But the issue remains the same--Livonia elections should not have this type of negative campaigning.


OFFICERS

Carl Berry, Committee Chair Plymouth Township
Delores Newell, Committee Vice-Chair Canton Township
Tom Stroup, Committee Secretary Redford Township
Jordyn Salmon, Committee Treasurer Livonia


BOARD MEMBERS

Todd Caccamo Canton Township
Pattie Coughlan Livonia
Geri Hames Plymouth Township
Mark Hutchins Canton Township
Don Kolhoff Livonia
Jim McFerran Redford
Deanna Pearson Livonia
Kevin Priddy Livonia
Mike Riordan Plymouth
Dale Rockwell Wayne
Carrie Ryckman Livonia
Charles Wilson Westland
Joe Xuereb Northville Township
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George
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I don't understand any of this? Why do they want to continue to do this to Maureen? I know, because she is much smarter than the rest of the Kirksey bunch, McCann, Scheel, Pastor, etc.

Since these attacks are on going, I've changed by voting thoughts. I originally was going to cast four votes, but now my focus is on Brosnan only. Laura, McCann and Pastor (hopefully, not Scheel) automatically, just based on the numbers from the primary, will get re-elected. If we all just vote for Maureen, it will increase her chances of coming in first..... Now do we dare take the chance of having McCann as our mayor???
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This negative stuff is orchestrated and timed just as it is with the Scheel, McCann letters. No one has written a negative letter about Scheel, although there are plenty that could be.

I've not written one to avoid being negative. Looks as if their supporters prefer slinging mud. It only reflects poorly on their candidate.

As for the Quicken Loan thing--what the heck does it have to do with Ms. Brosnan?

Ms. Brosnan told me during our interview that SHE was the one who first approached Rock Financial (Quicken) while the mayor at the time was not interested in working with them at all. She brought them to town.

It makes no sense to blame Ms. Brosnan for something Livonia could never match--a sweetheart deal.

For goodness sake, Dan Gilbert, founder of Quicken Loans got generous tax and other incentives from Kilpatrick and made a PERSONAL LOAN to Kilpatrick. A personal loan. That shows Mr. Gilbert sure cares for Kilpatrick as a good friend or it was a payback for the deal they got for leaving Livonia.

What does that have to do with Ms. Brosnan?

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Plus, remember, the O/E's audience is aging--and the aged are the prime target of these letter, because they vote the most.

Also, everyone is aware of the mayor's groupies (which makes sense considering the identification) at the senior center and how they get his word out.
Krome on Cars

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They are blaming everything on Brosnan even the recent cut in 20j funding! What's next? Will they blame her for the Swine Flu outbreak????? ^o) Unbelievable!!!!!
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You see it's all because of that failed Annexation. If it hadn't been for Brosnan speaking against the landgrab...
Livonia would have: struck oil, been receiving millions of dollars in property taxes, 8000 jobs, been the city with 3 Walmarts, Haggerty rd would have been repaired and on and on

I'm sure glad those writers reminded the readers of Brosnan's stance with the Annexation.

Now, why didn't that same writer remind the readers how the other candidates stood on the subject?
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Purple Haze
Oct 30 2009, 07:28 AM
Mrs.M
Oct 29 2009, 05:45 PM
http://www.hometownlife.com/article/20091029/OPINION03/910290617/1199/NEWS10/Letters+to+Livonia+editor
No Granholm proponent

Maureen Miller Brosnan says she has new ideas that she will bring to the Livonia City Council. Hopefully, they are not the same type of ideas as promised by her greatest advocate, Gov. Jennifer Granholm.

When Maureen Miller Brosnan ran for mayor two years ago, Gov. Granholm held fund-raisers for Maureen Miller Brosnan and gave her a $10,000 contribution. Considering the state of the government in Lansing, I would rather not have a Granholm proponent and supporter making decisions in the Livonia City Council. Times are hard enough as it is!

Jilian Milkiewicz
Livonia

ah, Jilian, riding on Grandpa Kirksey's coattails?
It is sloppy at best and compliant at worst for the Observer to not disclose that Jillian is Kirksey's grandaughter. No wonder they can barely afford to keep the lights on anymore.
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No love fest at this house for Brosnan! Noooooo thanks ..... I've had my fill of ''democrats'' for a lifetime.

I truly think that council should declare their party leanings and run as a Democrat, socialist,Republican., Independant, etc.. They have control of an awful lot of finances, I believe! Anyone that has that much ado with MY money needs to tell me what party they hold their allegiance to. That's another ways that one can tell their tendencies toward spending. I know ,... it's not a true test (nothing is) but at least it's another telling tale into their character. I find that bit of info very important to me. I even ask my finance guy what party he votes for! I need to know how he feels about MY money as apposed to HIS money
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Makes all the sense in the world. We ask for party affiliation so that we can determine which ones supported the Bush administration as Republicans. Let me see--came to office with a $350 billion surplus and left with a $1.2 trillion deficit. Financed a war in Iraq off the books so that we never really knew the amount of financial deficit the Republicans were leaving us.

Makes sense to ask the Council of Livonia if they supported moving tax havens off shore so that the largest corporations could avoid paying taxes. And don't get me started on the Republicans having controlled Congress for six of the years
Bush was President and could have dealt with any number of problems but instead ignored them.

Makes sense to vote for a Republican for Council if they supported this kind of reckless spending.

No thank you. I prefer voting for local council members who will deal with local issues.
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Oh and I forgot the annexation issue financed by out of town financiers spending over $300,000 to annex some property so they could make more money. But we now have two Wal-marts in Livonia and another coming on our border at Seven and Haggerty.

Republicans all.

How about the $50,000 spent by the Republicans in the last Mayor's election to defeat Brosnan with their mailings. You know the same people who attacked Eric Stempien for having a law office in Northville while running for Livonia Council. The same people who elected John Walsh to State Representative only to have him open a law office Northville after being elected.

Keep partisan politics out of Livonia elections.
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Just got an unannounced nasty robocall slamming Brosnan from a number listed to

Carl Berry

Who just happens to be:

Wayne 11th Congressional District Republican Committee


Carl Berry, Committee Chair Plymouth Township




Getting desperate aren't they?
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Al Beabak
Nov 2 2009, 07:37 PM
Just got an unannounced nasty robocall slamming Brosnan from a number listed to

Carl Berry

Who just happens to be:

Wayne 11th Congressional District Republican Committee


Carl Berry, Committee Chair Plymouth Township




Getting desperate aren't they?
I got that same nasty call. It was a womans voice, sounded like Linda Scheel. She made all sorts of nasty allegations and insinuated that Maureen Brosnan was sending out nasty campaign literature, which we all know is not true. Those Wayne 11th crony friends of Kirksey's are sure a nasty bunch. They stand behind their boys McCann & Pastor like a lynch mob with pitchforks & torches in hand ready to burn down anybody who dares to challenge them. Actions like that will always steer votes away from their candidates and towards the ones they are trying to slam.

Brosnan gets my vote & my only vote.
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And if you google Carl Berry you discover that he ran last year for Plymouth Township Trustee and finished dead last. In Plymouth Township. So now you say that this failed Plymouth Township candidate is calling into Livonia to tell us how to vote?

Makes no sense to me.

Is this the same Carl Berry that runs security for the Detroit Auto Show?

Makes no difference. He should stay in Plymouth Township and learn to win his own elections and let Livonia elect the candidates we want in office.

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Nov 2 2009, 07:56 PM
And if you google Carl Berry you discover that he ran last year for Plymouth Township Trustee and finished dead last. In Plymouth Township. So now you say that this failed Plymouth Township candidate is calling into Livonia to tell us how to vote?

Makes no sense to me.

Is this the same Carl Berry that runs security for the Detroit Auto Show?

Makes no difference. He should stay in Plymouth Township and learn to win his own elections and let Livonia elect the candidates we want in office.

Awwww....maybe we should give Carl a break.

He's just being a good little boy.

He's only doing what Papa Jacko is telling him to do.
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I have called around to a number of people and no one has received any negative literature about Linda Schiel. If someone has it they should scan and post it. I just do not believe that any is out there.

And I do not believe that Maureen Brosnan is doing it, and if hse is then I will reconsider my support for her. But she did not respond to all that was thrown at her two years ago, including the nearly $50,000 from the Wayne 11th, so why would she do that this year when it is obvious to everyone that she is going to win.

I think the #4 position is between Pastor and Shiel so perhaps if anyone is getting scared it might be in one of those two camps.
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Nov 2 2009, 08:05 PM
I have called around to a number of people and no one has received any negative literature about Linda Schiel. If someone has it they should scan and post it. I just do not believe that any is out there.

And I do not believe that Maureen Brosnan is doing it, and if hse is then I will reconsider my support for her. But she did not respond to all that was thrown at her two years ago, including the nearly $50,000 from the Wayne 11th, so why would she do that this year when it is obvious to everyone that she is going to win.

I think the #4 position is between Pastor and Shiel so perhaps if anyone is getting scared it might be in one of those two camps.
schiel & pastor...kirkseyites & wayne 11th patsys all the way
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Nov 2 2009, 07:12 PM
Makes all the sense in the world. We ask for party affiliation so that we can determine which ones supported the Bush administration as Republicans. Let me see--came to office with a $350 billion surplus and left with a $1.2 trillion deficit. Financed a war in Iraq off the books so that we never really knew the amount of financial deficit the Republicans were leaving us.

Makes sense to ask the Council of Livonia if they supported moving tax havens off shore so that the largest corporations could avoid paying taxes. And don't get me started on the Republicans having controlled Congress for six of the years
Bush was President and could have dealt with any number of problems but instead ignored them.

Makes sense to vote for a Republican for Council if they supported this kind of reckless spending.

No thank you. I prefer voting for local council members who will deal with local issues.
I certainly am not enjoying the Democrats in all three branches tearing down capitalism and trying to bring in socialized medicine and having us go bankrupt. This unfettered ACORN community organizer that's in the white house with all the so=called Dems in position is scaring the bejeebers out of me! Am I the only one that's scared to death what the democrats/socilaists are doing to our country. In another year we will not recognize it. It's being dismantled at a pace that's reminds me of what happened to my country in Europe when it went communist and then socialist. They are still trying to claw their way back to the top so they can breathe. For those of you that's never been through something like that ... it will leave you breathless!
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Nov 2 2009, 07:56 PM
And if you google Carl Berry you discover that he ran last year for Plymouth Township Trustee and finished dead last. In Plymouth Township. So now you say that this failed Plymouth Township candidate is calling into Livonia to tell us how to vote?

Makes no sense to me.

Is this the same Carl Berry that runs security for the Detroit Auto Show?

Makes no difference. He should stay in Plymouth Township and learn to win his own elections and let Livonia elect the candidates we want in office.

Not only did he lose, but he came in dead last in the primary.

TWP OF PLYMOUTH, MICHIGAN
PRIMARY ELECTION
AUGUST 5, 2008
STATISTICS


PLYMOUTH TWP TRUSTEE
Vote for not more than 4
Kay A. Arnold . . . . . . . . . 2,324 19.91
Carl F. Berry . . . . . . . . . 1,879 16.10
Robert J. Doroshewitz . . . . . . 2,512 21.52
Michael J. Kelly . . . . . . . . 2,133 18.27
Steve Mann . . . . . . . . . . 2,815 24.11
WRITE-IN. . . . . . . . . . . 11 .09
Total . . . . . . . . . 11,674

http://www.plymouthtwp.org/departments/Clerk/VoterElection/ElectionResults20080805.htm



That puts him in Glen Moon territory.

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