November LPS Millage Proposals

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November LPS Millage Proposals
Topic Started: Aug 15 2009, 06:30 PM (1,269 Views)
crazy_cat	Nov 2 2009, 02:39 PM Post #61
Advanced Member Posts: 317 Group: Members Member #67 Joined: May 16, 2007	n73pm Nov 2 2009, 11:41 AM I was just wondering .. has the teacher's union (one of the biggest/strongest unions in the USA ) made any concessions considerable yet? Much of our money goes to their salaries, benefits, i.e. medical, dental, vacations, pension plans, which are the best you can get, and then the rest goes to the children! I no longer feel strong about supporting much of anything that is union based and public schools are just that. Maybe they should consider disbanding the teacher's union. Is it still true that Dr. Leipa is the only LPS employee that has money taken out of his paycheck for healthcare?



Jimid	Nov 2 2009, 08:18 PM Post #62
Advanced Member Posts: 1,102 Group: Members Member #213 Joined: July 25, 2007	The cuts and political gamesmanship in Lansing is at a all time high right now. But the cuts are going to have to happen, and the MEA has to realize their members are the last on the chopping block. We have hit bottom, and we may even go below bedrock in this state. Everyone has givin, and EVERYONE will continue to give. If the MEA waits for Detroit Public Schools to go bankrupt and set the precedent, it wont be a question of giving. It will be taken. And as we all know, that can be much more painful. We don't have much control in this election, but we should do what we can. The recent events have made it pretty important to vote YES on both the operating millage and sinking fund. I hope some of you know me, and know I wouldn't say this for any political reason. Now is absolutely not the time to send any messages. Do that in the May school board election. We will need this money. Really, really, really need this money.



Hopeful	Nov 2 2009, 09:15 PM Post #63
Advanced Member Posts: 266 Group: Members Member #85 Joined: May 18, 2007	We should wait and approve any money in May when we elect a new BOE..... until then, I do not trust this bunch to do anything for the children. Their record speaks for itself. This BOE will to put the administration before everything else. LPS needs to make its number one priority educating children.



LPS Reformer	Nov 2 2009, 09:55 PM Post #64
The schools exist to educate, not employ. Posts: 2,504 Group: Members Member #10 Joined: May 8, 2007	Jimid Nov 2 2009, 08:18 PM The cuts and political gamesmanship in Lansing is at a all time high right now. But the cuts are going to have to happen, and the MEA has to realize their members are the last on the chopping block. We have hit bottom, and we may even go below bedrock in this state. Everyone has givin, and EVERYONE will continue to give. If the MEA waits for Detroit Public Schools to go bankrupt and set the precedent, it wont be a question of giving. It will be taken. And as we all know, that can be much more painful. We don't have much control in this election, but we should do what we can. The recent events have made it pretty important to vote YES on both the operating millage and sinking fund. I hope some of you know me, and know I wouldn't say this for any political reason. Now is absolutely not the time to send any messages. Do that in the May school board election. We will need this money. Really, really, really need this money. Vote No, and force Randy to make real cuts, and rewrite the sinking fund millage so that he can't buy another soccer field. This group won't change until they have to, so make them.
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Queen of Hearts	Nov 3 2009, 09:01 AM Post #65
Advanced Member Posts: 375 Group: Members Member #215 Joined: August 2, 2007	Loyd, the photo contained in your signature has "Hull Elementary" spelled wrong



Whatever	Nov 3 2009, 11:02 AM Post #66
Advanced Member Posts: 595 Group: Members Member #206 Joined: June 4, 2007	Woo kneads spell-cheek wen we hab u.



uh-oh	Nov 3 2009, 01:28 PM Post #67
Advanced Member Posts: 108 Group: Members Member #349 Joined: November 11, 2008	Jimid Nov 2 2009, 08:18 PM The cuts and political gamesmanship in Lansing is at a all time high right now. But the cuts are going to have to happen, and the MEA has to realize their members are the last on the chopping block. We have hit bottom, and we may even go below bedrock in this state. Everyone has givin, and EVERYONE will continue to give. If the MEA waits for Detroit Public Schools to go bankrupt and set the precedent, it wont be a question of giving. It will be taken. And as we all know, that can be much more painful. We don't have much control in this election, but we should do what we can. The recent events have made it pretty important to vote YES on both the operating millage and sinking fund. I hope some of you know me, and know I wouldn't say this for any political reason. Now is absolutely not the time to send any messages. Do that in the May school board election. We will need this money. Really, really, really need this money. I was surprized to get the LN email from you last week Jimid. You have, in the past, stayed pretty neutral publically. I hope people realize that the email is your personal opinion, because there are many of 'old-timers' who couldn't disagree with you more. I will be voting no on both for the precise reasons mentioned by Reformer above. Edited by uh-oh, Nov 3 2009, 01:29 PM.



Purple Haze	Nov 3 2009, 02:54 PM Post #68
Advanced Member Posts: 362 Group: Members Member #52 Joined: May 12, 2007	Queen of Hearts Nov 3 2009, 09:01 AM Loyd, the photo contained in your signature has "Hull Elementary" spelled wrong Queenie, I have but a few words to say to you... "she speaks, yet she says nothing, what of that?" William Shakespeare



Mrs.M	Nov 3 2009, 05:38 PM Post #69
Advanced Member Posts: 1,071 Group: Members Member #29 Joined: May 10, 2007	When I first read Jimid's message, I sent him a PM. everything is OK. In defense of Jimid, he's the administrator and this is his baby, without it NO sounding board, other than your spouse? (and sometimes that's like speaking to a brick wall). AND none of your tax dollars are going to support this line of communication, so breathe easy. Gosh Jimid could be sending us junk mail to clutter the email boxes everyday! phewwwww! You know, you do what you believe is right, well at least you're supposed to. I personally don't see the millage votes as directed at the BOE, they're the middle guys. They don't spend the money, they just approve what's already being spent - save for a few larger ticket items. Back to Jimid, he reminded us about voting for Spence (I think?) and that was good. (I honestly can't remember if Jimid suggested a vote for Spence, I think he did.) Remember the recall efforts and the pre LI. . this forum was hoppin'! And it will be again.



SamG	Nov 3 2009, 08:57 PM Post #70
Advanced Member Posts: 40 Group: Members Member #50 Joined: May 11, 2007	crazy_cat Nov 2 2009, 02:39 PM n73pm Nov 2 2009, 11:41 AM I was just wondering .. has the teacher's union (one of the biggest/strongest unions in the USA ) made any concessions considerable yet? Much of our money goes to their salaries, benefits, i.e. medical, dental, vacations, pension plans, which are the best you can get, and then the rest goes to the children! I no longer feel strong about supporting much of anything that is union based and public schools are just that. Maybe they should consider disbanding the teacher's union. Is it still true that Dr. Leipa is the only LPS employee that has money taken out of his paycheck for healthcare? All Livonia teachers have money taken out of their checks for healthcare.


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