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| November LPS Millage Proposals | |
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| Topic Started: Aug 15 2009, 06:30 PM (1,270 Views) | |
| one_observer | Aug 15 2009, 06:30 PM Post #1 |
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School board considers November millage proposals The Livonia school board will decide Monday whether to ask voters in November to renew two millages for another five years. One is for operations; the other is for the sinking fund, which pays for building repairs. The operating millage -18.4568 or $18.4568 on each $1,000 of taxable value for non-homestead property, such as businesses, and .63 or 63 cents on each $1,000 of taxable value for all property - expires in 2010. If the operating millage isn't approved, the district won't get its per-pupil foundation allowance from the state, Supt. Randy Liepa said. The majority of the district's $157 million general fund budget comes from the per-pupil allowance. The sinking fund millage - 1.12 mills or $1.12 on each $1,000 of taxable value - is assessed on all property and funds the construction and repair of school buildings and acquisition of real estate. It expires this year. Liepa recommended last Monday that the school board consider putting the millages on the November ballot to help save about $50,000 in election costs. The city of Livonia is also holding an election in November. He said that if voters were to reject one of the millages, the board would have time to ask voters again in February. Liepa asked board members if they wanted the renewal requests to be for five or 10 years. He said a lot of districts are going to 10 years. But the majority of board members preferred five years. Trustee Steve King said five-year millages would be easier to sell to the community in this economy. http://www.hometownlife.com/article/20090816/NEWS10/90816005/1027/School-board-considers-November-millage-proposals |
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| Mrs.M | Aug 16 2009, 10:06 AM Post #2 |
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Ironic now we're interested in saving money by piggybacking on the city's election, but no such concern for the past 2 years with school board elections. I wonder if the timing is more important, thus allowing for another attempt in February, than the monies saved by combining elections. I must have started looking for ulterior motives. Edited by Mrs.M, Aug 16 2009, 10:08 AM.
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| Monkfish | Aug 16 2009, 10:34 AM Post #3 |
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I have 2 words on the subject....NO WAY...not in Nov...not in Feb. |
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| Momof4 | Aug 16 2009, 11:21 AM Post #4 |
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This board has spent, spent, spent - wasting money left and right. The answer is NO! |
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| LPS Reformer | Aug 16 2009, 12:36 PM Post #5 |
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After Randy's "stealth raise" how can you say yes? |
 LPS Reform Blog++++LPS Salary List 12/07 LPS Salary List 6/09 Contact me at: LPSReformer@gmail.com | |
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| Momof4 | Aug 16 2009, 02:45 PM Post #6 |
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Go to the thread about his raise to learn he had to give up his clothing allowance. Unbelievable! |
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| Al Beabak | Aug 16 2009, 02:46 PM Post #7 |
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After proving to be fiscally irresponsible I have a very difficult time giving LPS any further money. It is time for LPS to clean up their act, clean house, clear the books & start over with new leadership. |
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| Extra Olives | Aug 17 2009, 10:56 AM Post #8 |
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Randy actually said so at the last committee meeting. (Paraphrasing here) "If the millage fails in November, we will be able to try again in February." |
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| Extra Olives | Aug 17 2009, 10:57 AM Post #9 |
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Clothing allowance?????? :  
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| Whatever | Aug 17 2009, 12:00 PM Post #10 |
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I'll buy them all a FREE box of DEPENDS when their millage fails to pass in Nov.....and then again in Feb. (This is a limited time offer, some restrictions apply. Call 1-800-FRE-DEPS for more information). |
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| Silentwolf | Aug 17 2009, 08:25 PM Post #11 |
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BOE just voted for the soccer complex: 5-2. Yes voters: Lessard, Oke, Scheel, Burton, Freeman. No votes: King, Mang |
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| LPS Reformer | Aug 17 2009, 09:11 PM Post #12 |
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Kiss your millage goodbye. |
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LPS Reform Blog++++LPS Salary List 12/07 LPS Salary List 6/09 Contact me at: LPSReformer@gmail.com | |
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| Silentwolf | Aug 17 2009, 10:04 PM Post #13 |
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How will you vote in November for LPS's Operating Millage and Sinking Millage?
Edited by Silentwolf, Aug 17 2009, 10:07 PM.
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| Spanky | Aug 18 2009, 07:46 AM Post #14 |
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I know what the sinking fund is, but could you explain what the operating fund is? |
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| Anna Krome | Aug 18 2009, 08:55 AM Post #15 |
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Why do they call it a "sinking fund"? |
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| Anna Krome | Aug 18 2009, 09:25 AM Post #16 |
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This is what this woman is saying and she's in w/administration--which is obvious by what she knows. 1. She paints the failed millage pass at Saugatuck schools as "voter apathy." 2. She doesn't dare post here, because she's more effective on the O/E site--and she knows she'd get slammed here. mammamia54 wrote: While I am sure you sympathize with Mr. Wiley, he was obviously way off in his comments as the millage passed 1502 to 381 (by almost 80%) the second time around. First time around was attributed to voter apathy. It is unfortunate that the same segment of the community who sued the district and initiated a recall vote appears to be gearing up to fight the renewal millage. What ya gonna call yourselves this time? 8/17/2009 10:50:07 AM |
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| Anna Krome | Aug 18 2009, 09:35 AM Post #17 |
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Some on the BOE are so full of hubris that they don't seem to think that they could ever make mistakes or be in the wrong. This "la-la-la"--we're always perfect and we don't have to listen to anyone but Mayor Kirksey, who hand-picks who runs for both the CC and the BOE (I'm told). The Mayor's power structure is far-reaching and has much Republican cash behind it. I don't care if you're a Republican or not, but be aware that your contributions to the party are what is fueling the mayor's strangle-hold on Livonia government, including the BOE. The only way to change this BOE's attitude is to campaign better next May and don't vote for Mr. McCann or Ms. Scheel. Even if you don't like Mr. Laura for whatever reason--remember, he usually votes against the Mayor's power-block and asks lots of questions. |
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| Anna Krome | Aug 18 2009, 09:57 AM Post #18 |
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This is my take: Almost all Livonia property (business, second homes, residential) has lost taxable value, so the millage will generate less than last year. If a residential home's taxable value is $200,000--then, $126 is the operating millage tax. From the O/E: The operating millage--18.4568 or $18.4568 on each $1,000 of taxable value for non-homestead property, such as businesses, and .63 or 63 cents on each $1,000 of taxable value for all property - expires in 2010. If the operating millage isn't approved, the district won't get its per-pupil foundation allowance from the state, Supt. Randy Liepa said. The majority of the district's $157 million general fund budget comes from the per-pupil allowance. The sinking fund millage - 1.12 mills or $1.12 on each $1,000 of taxable value - is assessed on all property and funds the construction and repair of school buildings and acquisition of real estate. It expires this year. AK: If you vote no on the millage in November, they will just run it again in Feb. 2010 and waste $30,000 or more on that election--and then BLAME the parents for wasting taxpayer money. It's all spin, and they are good at it. Already on the O/E's site, mammamia is setting the parents up--and sniping "what are you going to call yourselves this time?" It's futile to vote against the millage. Administration will write it off as "voter apathy," and yes, blame it on the parents who question them. IMO, it will just paint the parents poorly. The millage has to be approved for the schools to operate. Now, the goal here is to keep it to 5 years, not the 10 Mr. Liepa wants. Edited by Anna Krome, Aug 18 2009, 10:09 AM.
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| Momof4 | Aug 18 2009, 12:25 PM Post #19 |
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Mammamia54 is so stuck in her ways she can't see the forest thru the trees, she's also not looking. She is not effective on the O/E site b/c and she slams with the best of them (talk about the pot calling the kettle black) and gets slammed there, too. She seems very angry and nasty. Definitely a LIEpa groupie - the LPS BOE can do no wrong. She is CONSTANTLY talking about the failed recall event and the anger over the LI - all the while ignoring the fact that the LI is a failure on many levels. (She beat down Roger Spence on the O/E site by using the same mantra over and over and over... saying he and his followers were against the LI and LPS needs to get over it. Sorry but IMO the only way to vote is based on the past actions of the board, and until I can see into the future, that is how I will vote. If I am against the LI, I will vote out people who poisoned the system with it.) She may get slammed here, b/c people here are more educated about the problems of the district that she would like to interact with. There are only handful of people who post on O/E (less than here) - I can no longer write in comments for some reason - and they are very polarized. Only a couple of people see eye to eye with MM54 (i.e. dogwhisper usually does ) and her fights with Impressionism are vile. You either agree with her or are treated like an idiot. I have never read anything she wrote that wasn't slamming someone else or sticking up for the BOE. To question a system is a positive step to growth. MM54 doesn't question the BOE or LPS in general - all this is from what I read on O/E - she goes with the flow, just like a lot of the dead fish in the system. Sadly, there is not enough of *us* who make themselves aware of what is going on and find out the real stories and ask questions and challenge. Too many people blindly believe that the BOE is doing their best. Well , they are, but their best is not good enough. There are people out there whose best will be actually best for our kids. |
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| Momof4 | Aug 18 2009, 12:28 PM Post #20 |
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How do you know why/or that she doesn't post here? |
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