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Disabled student assaulted by LPS employee
Topic Started: Nov 6 2008, 08:15 PM (10,518 Views)
Garbonzo
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Maybe Livonia officials and the Board need to start doing what is in the best interest of the students and not themselves. Come on Randy, special needs children are just that, SPECIAL NEEDS. Now let's hire some more psychotic paraprofessionals. Maybe your kids or Markarian would enjoy that bus ride!!!
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Garbonzo
Dec 4 2008, 06:37 PM
Maybe Livonia officials and the Board need to start doing what is in the best interest of the students and not themselves. Come on Randy, special needs children are just that, SPECIAL NEEDS. Now let's hire some more psychotic paraprofessionals. Maybe your kids or Markarian would enjoy that bus ride!!!
Eric Zivkovich is just another in a long line of people who got their job at LPS, NOT be qualification, but rather by being related to an employee or board member.

Maybe one day Randy will realize that we need to hire the "best and brightest", not the "friends and family".

“Child Abuse” means different things to different people....
----Randy Liepa 8/9/12
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Why are we taking about a $90,000 custodian on a thread about a disabled student? Keep the input related to the thread title!

I personally hope the family of the disabled student goes after LPS.

I am a family of a disabled student and nobody REALLY understands how much pain is involved when your child can't defend him/herself. The disabled students of this district have long been mistreated (Lessard) and although the district puts up a good front about how they care for these students, the real undertone is that they are a bother. Remember how they were treated during the implementation of the LI???



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Garbonzo
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Bravo LPSisPoor - The disabled have long been abused without having any rights or repercussions. Someone needs to make the District responsible for their actions! Tell me, can mentally impaired persons suffer from PTSD? Sounds like LPS could have a LONG ride ahead of them. Good going Randy! Children definitely come first in this community wouldn't you say. This sickens me.
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Just another thought here. Maybe Special Needs parents in general need to come together and picket the board of education. That could be a good news story.
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I agree with some of the comments from above - if he is guilty. I am not sure all of the facts have come out yet since this is a legal matter. As it was with the Duke Lacross team, it is important to hold judgement until the legal cases have been made. These issues are personal, sensitive, and emotional to many of us, but unless someone has more inside knowledge than what is being reported, it is important to be fair to all parties. That is my 2 cents.
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Garbonzo
Dec 5 2008, 09:27 AM
Just another thought here. Maybe Special Needs parents in general need to come together and picket the board of education. That could be a good news story.
It sounds like some of the parents of special needs students should speak before the board to voice their concerns. The more they hear in a public venue in front of an audience the less they can ignore and the more they can believe about what the administration is not telling them.
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Dec 5 2008, 08:43 AM
Why are we taking about a $90,000 custodian on a thread about a disabled student? Keep the input related to the thread title!

I personally hope the family of the disabled student goes after LPS.

I am a family of a disabled student and nobody REALLY understands how much pain is involved when your child can't defend him/herself. The disabled students of this district have long been mistreated (Lessard) and although the district puts up a good front about how they care for these students, the real undertone is that they are a bother. Remember how they were treated during the implementation of the LI???



The mention of Mr. Markarian, was in regard to why Mrs. Markarian did not let the rest of the board know about the assault. In other words, her family gets a huge raise, and in return, she helps Randy keep bad news from seeing the light of day.

“Child Abuse” means different things to different people....
----Randy Liepa 8/9/12
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Dec 5 2008, 09:26 PM
LPSisPoor
Dec 5 2008, 08:43 AM
Why are we taking about a $90,000 custodian on a thread about a disabled student? Keep the input related to the thread title!

I personally hope the family of the disabled student goes after LPS.

I am a family of a disabled student and nobody REALLY understands how much pain is involved when your child can't defend him/herself. The disabled students of this district have long been mistreated (Lessard) and although the district puts up a good front about how they care for these students, the real undertone is that they are a bother. Remember how they were treated during the implementation of the LI???



The mention of Mr. Markarian, was in regard to why Mrs. Markarian did not let the rest of the board know about the assault. In other words, her family gets a huge raise, and in return, she helps Randy keep bad news from seeing the light of day.

She is up for re-election in May 2009. I think it is time she stepped down and out of the picture to avoid any further conflicts of interest above & beyond what she has already incurred. WHEN she is actually present at any board or committee meetings she seems to preoccupied with something other than board of education business. Time to give it up Ms. Markarian, your heart or mind do not appear to be in the right place at such a critical time for our children.



mmmmkay?
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mmmmkay?
Dec 5 2008, 09:36 PM
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Dec 5 2008, 09:26 PM
LPSisPoor
Dec 5 2008, 08:43 AM
Why are we taking about a $90,000 custodian on a thread about a disabled student? Keep the input related to the thread title!

I personally hope the family of the disabled student goes after LPS.

I am a family of a disabled student and nobody REALLY understands how much pain is involved when your child can't defend him/herself. The disabled students of this district have long been mistreated (Lessard) and although the district puts up a good front about how they care for these students, the real undertone is that they are a bother. Remember how they were treated during the implementation of the LI???



The mention of Mr. Markarian, was in regard to why Mrs. Markarian did not let the rest of the board know about the assault. In other words, her family gets a huge raise, and in return, she helps Randy keep bad news from seeing the light of day.

She is up for re-election in May 2009. I think it is time she stepped down and out of the picture to avoid any further conflicts of interest above & beyond what she has already incurred. WHEN she is actually present at any board or committee meetings she seems to preoccupied with something other than board of education business. Time to give it up Ms. Markarian, your heart or mind do not appear to be in the right place at such a critical time for our children.



mmmmkay?
If that were my child at risk I would be IN THEIR FACE in a heartbeat
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Dec 5 2008, 10:52 PM
mmmmkay?
Dec 5 2008, 09:36 PM
LPS Reformer
Dec 5 2008, 09:26 PM
LPSisPoor
Dec 5 2008, 08:43 AM
Why are we taking about a $90,000 custodian on a thread about a disabled student? Keep the input related to the thread title!

I personally hope the family of the disabled student goes after LPS.

I am a family of a disabled student and nobody REALLY understands how much pain is involved when your child can't defend him/herself. The disabled students of this district have long been mistreated (Lessard) and although the district puts up a good front about how they care for these students, the real undertone is that they are a bother. Remember how they were treated during the implementation of the LI???



The mention of Mr. Markarian, was in regard to why Mrs. Markarian did not let the rest of the board know about the assault. In other words, her family gets a huge raise, and in return, she helps Randy keep bad news from seeing the light of day.

She is up for re-election in May 2009. I think it is time she stepped down and out of the picture to avoid any further conflicts of interest above & beyond what she has already incurred. WHEN she is actually present at any board or committee meetings she seems to preoccupied with something other than board of education business. Time to give it up Ms. Markarian, your heart or mind do not appear to be in the right place at such a critical time for our children.



mmmmkay?
If that were my child at risk I would be IN THEIR FACE in a heartbeat
The father of at least one of the young women is an attorney. I believe that he will be "in their face", in court. At this rate, you'll need a program just to keep track of them.

Sigh....
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----Randy Liepa 8/9/12
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Garbonzo
Dec 5 2008, 09:25 AM
Tell me, can mentally impaired persons suffer from PTSD? Sounds like LPS could have a LONG ride ahead of them.
Sgt. Shelley Holloway of the Livonia Police Department described the assault as a pinch.

The student(s) probably did not require medical care.
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Garbonzo
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I noticed the article in the Livonia Observer today. It said "Zivkovich, who has since been terminated from his position in Livonia Public Schools, faces up to 93 days in jail or $500 fine if found guilty". Why would they terminate him if all he did was pinch them, and why get charged with Assault and Battery?

Sounds like there is more to this incident/story. I'm sure all the facts will come out at the pre-trial or however they do it.
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Dec 6 2008, 08:13 PM
Garbonzo
Dec 5 2008, 09:25 AM
Tell me, can mentally impaired persons suffer from PTSD? Sounds like LPS could have a LONG ride ahead of them.
Sgt. Shelley Holloway of the Livonia Police Department described the assault as a pinch.

The student(s) probably did not require medical care.
Should that be the standard? No medical care, no problem? :blink:
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Garbonzo
Dec 7 2008, 08:06 PM
I noticed the article in the Livonia Observer today. It said "Zivkovich, who has since been terminated from his position in Livonia Public Schools, faces up to 93 days in jail or $500 fine if found guilty". Why would they terminate him if all he did was pinch them, and why get charged with Assault and Battery?

Sounds like there is more to this incident/story. I'm sure all the facts will come out at the pre-trial or however they do it.
Any employee who pinches a student should be terminated.
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I agree!!!! I have seen too much with those kids, arm pulling, pushing, threats(going to tell your mom) many times, eating their lunch however small,hand smacking,yelling, just unneccessary force....Just to much....Each and every one of these parapros should be certified and professional. Not just be able to get the job because of a friendly interview with whoever...There should be secret drop ins at each and every school on a regular basis to ensure the safety of these children...I agree some off them do need a bit of extra encouragement to do whatever needs to be done. But what I have seen over the years sickens me...Those people know who you are and will be held accountable one way or another in this life or the next...Sorry I could not stay quiet much longer..I feel for them...
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Dec 9 2008, 04:13 PM
I agree!!!! I have seen too much with those kids, arm pulling, pushing, threats(going to tell your mom) many times, eating their lunch however small,hand smacking,yelling, just unneccessary force....Just to much....Each and every one of these parapros should be certified and professional. Not just be able to get the job because of a friendly interview with whoever...There should be secret drop ins at each and every school on a regular basis to ensure the safety of these children...I agree some off them do need a bit of extra encouragement to do whatever needs to be done. But what I have seen over the years sickens me...Those people know who you are and will be held accountable one way or another in this life or the next...Sorry I could not stay quiet much longer..I feel for them...
I think you are painting parapros with a really broad brush. With the exception of threatening to tell mom (maybe mom needs to be told ) you should report any of those other things to the principal. I am not a special ed teacher but I have been in buildings with centers for most of my Livonia career. I have supervised center kids on the playground and in the lunchroom and have never seen what you describe. For personal reasons I do not care to disclose, center kids are very precious to me. I feel very protective towards them and would never stand by while they were being jerked around or screamed at. You shouldn't either.
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I don't know if this guy was considered a parapro, he was a bus aide. Who knows if he had any training for special needs populations at all! Knowing LPS hiring tactics, I doubt it.
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Just a TOTAL rumor that someone told me today - but I hear this guy has been in trouble at work before. Can't someone find his personnel file??? I hope that the right thing has been done and it's all been documented. I know he lost his job over this incident, but why not the others, if they did happen.

Is this guy a family member of someone in Central Office or BOE? Why has past problems been ignored?
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Mom of 4 -

YES - I heard he has a relative in Central Office and YES he's been in trouble before. An LPS employee confirmed the "RUMOR" for me.

In the past when he was in trouble, he simply got transferred to a new assignment. This time he was terminated. I suspect the deciding factor is that the families are probably pressing charges and they should!

How sad that his central office relative will probably get stuck supporting him.
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