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Who will run for Governor?; Archer? Cox?
Topic Started: Feb 7 2008, 12:00 PM (2,279 Views)
Otis B.
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Renee Chesney
Feb 13 2008, 09:45 AM
Otis B.
Feb 13 2008, 09:41 AM
2 a: lacking sharpness or quickness of sensibility or intellect : insensitive, stupid b: difficult to comprehend : not clear or precise in thought or expression

Uh huh.

U reed reel guhd.

My point was that all of the statements on here that have any context to them fly right over your head.  Don't take everything so literally, Mrs. Kirksey.  Oh wait, since you're cool with infidelity you're probably his mistress.

You are just sick.

And judging from your screen name, you probably think People Magazine is literature. I feel sorry for your children.
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Renee Chesney
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Otis B.
Feb 13 2008, 09:49 AM
Renee Chesney
Feb 13 2008, 09:45 AM
Otis B.
Feb 13 2008, 09:41 AM
2 a: lacking sharpness or quickness of sensibility or intellect : insensitive, stupid b: difficult to comprehend : not clear or precise in thought or expression

Uh huh.

U reed reel guhd.

My point was that all of the statements on here that have any context to them fly right over your head.  Don't take everything so literally, Mrs. Kirksey.  Oh wait, since you're cool with infidelity you're probably his mistress.

You are just sick.

And judging from your screen name, you probably think People Magazine is literature. I feel sorry for your children.

Thanks for making my point that you are truly sick.
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Otis B.
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Renee Chesney
Feb 13 2008, 10:14 AM
Otis B.
Feb 13 2008, 09:49 AM
Renee Chesney
Feb 13 2008, 09:45 AM
Otis B.
Feb 13 2008, 09:41 AM
2 a: lacking sharpness or quickness of sensibility or intellect : insensitive, stupid b: difficult to comprehend : not clear or precise in thought or expression

Uh huh.

U reed reel guhd.

My point was that all of the statements on here that have any context to them fly right over your head.  Don't take everything so literally, Mrs. Kirksey.  Oh wait, since you're cool with infidelity you're probably his mistress.

You are just sick.

And judging from your screen name, you probably think People Magazine is literature. I feel sorry for your children.

Thanks for making my point that you are truly sick.

For making comments on a message board.

Yup, I'm up there with Manson and Dahmer.

Why don't you go watch some more Dr. Phil?
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livoniarocks
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Otis B.
Feb 13 2008, 11:02 AM
Otis B.,Feb 13 2008
09:49 AM
Otis B.,Feb 13 2008
09:41 AM
2 a: lacking sharpness or quickness of sensibility or intellect : insensitive, stupid b: difficult to comprehend : not clear or precise in thought or expression

Uh huh.

U reed reel guhd.

My point was that all of the statements on here that have any context to them fly right over your head.  Don't take everything so literally, Mrs. Kirksey.  Oh wait, since you're cool with infidelity you're probably his mistress.


I truly feel sorry for you that you are so alone that you must make yourself feel like a more important "man" by bashing people online. It's very sad. Your life is consumed with theories (ie. I am Mrs. Kirksey and that I believe in infidelity--find one place where I stated that). You said you are only 28 years old, you hopefully have a long life ahead of you.. I highly doubt you are married or have a girlfriend, and have probably gone through life believing that something is owed to you by everyone. Reality check--your life is what you make of it. If it makes you feel like a real 'man' by making fun of people online, there are counselors out there that can help you with your self-esteem issues.

If you truly want to try to make a difference as opposed to just criticizing what others do, then why don't you run for office, or get on a Livonia Commission--get involved in something other than blogging. There is a school board election coming up, State Rep, next year there will be two open Council seats, and many commissions have openings. It sure is easy to sit hidden in front of a computer screen and make accusations, criticisms and sly remarks..it's a whole different story to climb out of your hole and actually try to make a difference.

Whomever was mean to you in grade school, junior high or high school, probably are not the people blogging on here, so give it a rest.
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Otis B.
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livoniarocks
Feb 13 2008, 11:25 AM
Otis B.,Feb 13 2008
11:02 AM
Otis B.,Feb 13 2008
09:49 AM
Otis B.,Feb 13 2008
09:41 AM
2 a: lacking sharpness or quickness of sensibility or intellect : insensitive, stupid b: difficult to comprehend : not clear or precise in thought or expression

Uh huh.

U reed reel guhd.

My point was that all of the statements on here that have any context to them fly right over your head.  Don't take everything so literally, Mrs. Kirksey.  Oh wait, since you're cool with infidelity you're probably his mistress.


I truly feel sorry for you that you are so alone that you must make yourself feel like a more important "man" by bashing people online. It's very sad. Your life is consumed with theories (ie. I am Mrs. Kirksey and that I believe in infidelity--find one place where I stated that). You said you are only 28 years old, you hopefully have a long life ahead of you.. I highly doubt you are married or have a girlfriend, and have probably gone through life believing that something is owed to you by everyone. Reality check--your life is what you make of it. If it makes you feel like a real 'man' by making fun of people online, there are counselors out there that can help you with your self-esteem issues.

If you truly want to try to make a difference as opposed to just criticizing what others do, then why don't you run for office, or get on a Livonia Commission--get involved in something other than blogging. There is a school board election coming up, State Rep, next year there will be two open Council seats, and many commissions have openings. It sure is easy to sit hidden in front of a computer screen and make accusations, criticisms and sly remarks..it's a whole different story to climb out of your hole and actually try to make a difference.

Whomever was mean to you in grade school, junior high or high school, probably are not the people blogging on here, so give it a rest.

Wow, livoniarocks. It is truly amazing that you have been able to infer so much from internet postings, but you have me nailed. I am a sad and lonely man that REALLY BELIEVES that you are married to our mayor. :rolleyes:

I am also amazed that you can infer that I have NOT been happily married for four years and that I do NOT have a rewarding career. Basically what happens is I post one of my sad, pathetic insults, punch the 238th hole in the wall of the lawnmower shack I live in and scream "BOO-YEAH!! I OWN LIVONIAROCKS!!!!! AAAAAHHHHHHH!!!!"

I attained a master's degree while working full time because I feel things are 'owed' to me. I know -- such a loser. Isn't it also pathetic that I feel I am 'owed' something other than failing schools and blight for the $5K+ a year I pay in taxes?

I seem to be having grade school flashbacks again so I'm going to go curl up in a ball and cry.
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livoniarocks
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Otis B.
Feb 13 2008, 11:49 AM
livoniarocks,Feb 13 2008
11:25 AM
Otis B.,Feb 13 2008
11:02 AM
Otis B.,Feb 13 2008
09:49 AM
Otis B.,Feb 13 2008
09:41 AM
2 a: lacking sharpness or quickness of sensibility or intellect : insensitive, stupid b: difficult to comprehend : not clear or precise in thought or expression

Uh huh.

U reed reel guhd.

My point was that all of the statements on here that have any context to them fly right over your head.  Don't take everything so literally, Mrs. Kirksey.  Oh wait, since you're cool with infidelity you're probably his mistress.


I truly feel sorry for you that you are so alone that you must make yourself feel like a more important "man" by bashing people online. It's very sad. Your life is consumed with theories (ie. I am Mrs. Kirksey and that I believe in infidelity--find one place where I stated that). You said you are only 28 years old, you hopefully have a long life ahead of you.. I highly doubt you are married or have a girlfriend, and have probably gone through life believing that something is owed to you by everyone. Reality check--your life is what you make of it. If it makes you feel like a real 'man' by making fun of people online, there are counselors out there that can help you with your self-esteem issues.

If you truly want to try to make a difference as opposed to just criticizing what others do, then why don't you run for office, or get on a Livonia Commission--get involved in something other than blogging. There is a school board election coming up, State Rep, next year there will be two open Council seats, and many commissions have openings. It sure is easy to sit hidden in front of a computer screen and make accusations, criticisms and sly remarks..it's a whole different story to climb out of your hole and actually try to make a difference.

Whomever was mean to you in grade school, junior high or high school, probably are not the people blogging on here, so give it a rest.

Wow, livoniarocks. It is truly amazing that you have been able to infer so much from internet postings, but you have me nailed. I am a sad and lonely man that REALLY BELIEVES that you are married to our mayor. :rolleyes:

I am also amazed that you can infer that I have NOT been happily married for four years and that I do NOT have a rewarding career. Basically what happens is I post one of my sad, pathetic insults, punch the 238th hole in the wall of the lawnmower shack I live in and scream "BOO-YEAH!! I OWN LIVONIAROCKS!!!!! AAAAAHHHHHHH!!!!"

I attained a master's degree while working full time because I feel things are 'owed' to me. I know -- such a loser. Isn't it also pathetic that I feel I am 'owed' something other than failing schools and blight for the $5K+ a year I pay in taxes?

I seem to be having grade school flashbacks again so I'm going to go curl up in a ball and cry.

You live at 7 and mid and pay $5K a year in taxes? hmmmm. Like I said, run for office.
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Otis B.
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I just said...um....OH, I GET IT! You think my neighborhood is a dump!! Well yeah. It's a bunch of sad, old, angry men living in shanties that complain about Hizzoner Jack, how they are owed everything, and how kids used to beat them up in school. They consider me their young protege.
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livoniarocks
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Otis B.
Feb 13 2008, 12:44 PM
I just said...um....OH, I GET IT! You think my neighborhood is a dump!! Well yeah. It's a bunch of sad, old, angry men living in shanties that complain about Hizzoner Jack, how they are owed everything, and how kids used to beat them up in school. They consider me their young protege.

No, I live over there and I know what my taxes are. By the way, today is the filing deadline for Livonia School Board, you've stated you are disatisfied with the schools, why don't you run instead of just running your mouth?
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Otis B.
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So.

By your logic, I have no right to comment on the state of Livonia/Clarenceville schools because I do not serve on the school board.

Am I right?
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livoniarocks
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Otis B.
Feb 13 2008, 01:39 PM
So.

By your logic, I have no right to comment on the state of Livonia/Clarenceville schools because I do not serve on the school board.

Am I right?

No, but by your logic you would assume that. What I said was, it's very easy to complain and criticize, it's a lot harder to do something about it. So, do something about it. You want people to change things, so why don't you start by trying to change them yourself. For how many people complain about the state of our City and Schools, it's quite shocking that no one has filed to run against the incumbents. GET INVOLVED!
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Otis B.
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In all honesty, you're right LR. I have no one to blame but myself for buying my home where I did. This was my first home and I did little research on the area other than 'Livonia has a reputation for strong schools and rising home values.' I didn't know the difference between Clarenceville and Livonia schools. I didn't know that the NE corner has been in decline for years. It all seemed like a shining city on a hill to me.

4 years into living in my home and I could kick myself. I did all of my research after the fact and what I discover makes me sad. I see a once great city that is in a slow rot

You ask what I'm going to do about it? To be honest, unless things start to change very soon, I am probably going to move by the time my children reach school age. It's a shame because I do like this city, and there were a lot of things other than reputation that brought me here. It's also a shame because my wife and I are both young college educated professionals -- something this city desperately needs more of right now.
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After beating wealthy Republican opponent Dick DeVos, a former president of Amway Corp. and its parent company, Alticor Inc., by 56 percent to 42 percent, Democratic Gov. Jennifer Granholm embarked upon her second term facing many of the same problems she did in her first.

With a weak economy and sluggish revenues again bedeviling the state, the governor continued to battle budget problems in 2007. Granholm says raising taxes, in addition to spending cuts and structural reforms, should be part of Michigan's budget-balancing solution. After four years where Republicans controlled both the state House and Senate, Democrats took control of the House for 2007. But new House members are hesitant to vote for a tax increase so soon after taking office and budget negotiations were at a historically slow pace in the state. The fiscal problems are making it tough to fulfill her plan to raise Michigan's educational achievement level and retrain the thousands of workers who are taking buyouts and leaving the struggling domestic auto industry, a bedrock of Michigan's economy.

The term-limited Granholm pushed to spend more on road construction and other projects to create jobs, and has had some success landing companies such as Google Inc., which plans to add 1,000 high-tech jobs to the Ann Arbor area over the next five years. But economists at the University of Michigan say they expect the state's unemployment rate, one of the nation's worst, to remain high as the state continues to lose more jobs than it gains in 2007 and 2008.

Granholm proposed a new way of taxing businesses that doesn't penalize them for hiring workers and replacing equipment, as the current tax which expires at the end of 2007 does. But she also says the new tax must bring in as much revenue as the current tax because the state can't afford a major tax cut. House Democrats modified her plan, and the changes met with approval from much of the business community. But the Republican-controlled Senate had it own ideas and by mid-June 2007, no agreement had been reached on a replacement for the tax that expires at the end of 2007. Economic developers say the resulting uncertainty has damaged their efforts to recruit new industries for Michigan.

Granholm could play an important role as Democratic presidential candidates bombard the state. She endorsed John Kerry in 2004 on the eve of the state's Democratic caucuses, and a large number of Democratic hopefuls campaigned for her re-election in 2006. But Granholm has not indicated who will get her backing in 2008.

Speculation about who will run for governor in 2010 already has begun although there haven't been formal announcements. DeVos is a potential candidate on the Republican side, along with several others including Secretary of State Terri Lynn Land, Attorney General Mike Cox, Oakland County Sheriff Mike Bouchard and a few members of Congress including U.S. Rep. Pete Hoekstra. Democrats mentioned as possible candidates to replace Granholm include Lt. Gov. John Cherry, Wayne County Executive Robert Ficano and U.S. Rep. Bart Stupak.


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Meet Terri Lynn Land


Biography
Secretary of State Terri Lynn Land was elected to office in November of 2002. With more than 1.7 million votes, she carried more votes than any other candidate on that year’s ballot, securing her place as Michigan’s top-elected Republican official.

Since taking office on January 1, 2003, Secretary Land has worked to make government services more reliable, user-friendly and efficient. From offering expanded hours to instituting cutting-edge technology in branch offices, the department as a whole has provided services faster, easier and more conveniently than ever before. Such improvements, which also include reducing bricks and mortar expenses across the state, reflect a customer driven-approach while saving taxpayer dollars.

Secretary Land’s commitment to efficiency is also reflected in her unique blend of an open door policy and a hands-on management style. Since her first statewide tour of every branch office in early 2003, she has worked closely with the department’s 1800 employees - the front line of customer service. As a result of such efforts, Secretary Land has gained an intimate knowledge of what improvements are required to make services as easy as possible for the customer. One such accomplishment includes the consolidation of the Department of State’s executive offices in Lansing. By centralizing services, customers can take advantage of one-stop shopping, while the move has saved an incredible $1.3 million a year.

Her open door policy also extends into elections administration, where Land serves as Chief Elections Official. Since 2003, Michigan has received nearly $100 million in federal funding through the “Help America Vote Act,” which requires states to upgrade outdated voting equipment. With Land’s leadership, Michigan is now unified under one optical scan system, which allows voters to use the same ballot whether voting absentee or in person. The one-system approach has also resulted in less confusion for election day workers, ensuring a fair and consistently administered election throughout the state. Her vocal support of accurate and efficient elections has also contributed to the recent implementation of consolidated elections for the first time in Michigan, which has eliminated “stealth” elections and reduced voter confusion.

With more than three years under her belt, Secretary Land looks forward to accomplishing her goals, which include advocating elections reforms, updating the department’s outdated computer system, and securing one million names on Michigan’s Organ and Tissue Donor Registry list.

A longtime Republican activist, Land has served as Precinct Delegate, County Party Executive Director, County Chair, State Committeewoman and District Chair. She was first involved during her high school years, when she served as a "scatter blitzer" for the Gerald R. Ford for President campaign. A budding politician from Grandville High School, she was one of the youngest attendees at the 1978 Republican State Convention. Most recently, she has served as Michigan Co-Chair for the Bush-Cheney 2004 reelection campaign, where she brought her trademark enthusiasm and grassroots activism to the campaign trail.

The granddaughter of Dutch immigrants, Land held her first job as a teenager. She worked alongside her Grandma Jenny as they cleaned rooms in the family’s hotel. It was this family business that taught Secretary Land the value of hard work.

Of all her accomplishments, Secretary Land is most proud of her family. She married Dan Hibma in 1983, and the couple has two children together, Jessica and Nicholas. They attend Corinth Reformed Church, where Secretary Land was nursery supervisor for many years. A graduate of Grandville High School, she received a Bachelor of Arts in Political Science from Hope College in Holland, Michigan.


Experience as Kent County Clerk:
Member, Michigan Association of County Clerks, 1992-2000; Director, District 4, two terms; Legislative Committee, two terms
Member, Judicial Information Systems Advisory Commission (appointed by Chief Justice of Mich. Supreme Court), 1997-1998
Member, J-NET Committee developing information systems for Kent County criminal justice system, 1992-2000
Kent County Parks Advisory Committee, 1997-2000
Member, Justice Planning Commission for New Hall of Justice
Chairman, Kent County Election Scheduling Committee, 1992-2000
Clerk of: 17th Circuit Court of the State of Michigan; Concealed Weapons Licensing Board; Jury Commission; Plat Board; Sinking Fund Commission, 1992-2000
Member, Election Commission, 1992-2000
Planning Committee for National County Government Week


Professional Appointments:
Secretary, Attorney Grievance Commission, Present
Secchia Millennium Commission, 2000
Member, Community Archives & Research Center, 1997-Present
Member, 54 Jefferson Study Committee, 1997-Present


Political Offices and Activities:
Ex-Officio Member, Kent County Republican Executive Committee (Candidate Recruitment Committee, Finance Committee)
Delegate/Alternate Delegate, Michigan Republican State Conventions, 1978-Present
Precinct Delegate, 1978-1992
Chairman, Kent County Republican Committee, 1989-1991
Alternate Delegate, Republican National Convention, 1992
Co-Chairman, MRSC Lake Michigan Barbecue, 1988-1991
Member, Michigan State Republican Committee (Policy Committee), 1978-1988
Republican candidate for Michigan House of Representatives, 1982
Executive Director, Ottawa County Republican Committee, 1981-1982
Volunteer "Scatter Blitzer," Ford for President, Kent County Republican Committee, 1976
Bush/Quayle, Engler, State Committees, 1988, 1992, 1994, 1998
Member, The Republican Women's Forum, 1992-Present
Member, Gerald R. Ford Republican Women's Club, 1989-Present
Member, George Bush for President, Michigan State Finance Committee, 2000


Community Activities:
Member, Board of Directors, American Heart Association, 1995-1999
Member, Board of Directors, Junior Achievement Alumni Board, 1997-1999
Member, Board of Directors, Potters House Foundation, 1997-Present
Member, Board of Directors, Project Rehab Foundation, 1997-1998
Member, Byron Center Community Fine Arts Council, 1997-Present
President, Byron Center Historical Society, 1990-1992, Member since 1983
Member, U.S. Supreme Court Historical Society, 1996-Present
Member, Michigan Supreme Court Historical Society, 1997-Present
Member, Grand Rapids Chamber of Commerce, 1992-Present
Member, Frederick Meijer Gardens, 1995-Present
Member, Friends of Van Andel Museum, 1995-Present
President, Byron Center Fine Arts Foundation, 1999-Present
Member, Friends of John Ball Zoological Park, 1995-Present
Member, Grand Rapids Early Morning Riser's Club, 1992-Present
Member, Corinth Reformed Church, 1983-Present
Member, Grandville Rotary, 1990-April 1999
Member, Grand Rapids Rotary, May 1999-Present
Member, Grand Rapids Public Museum Foundation Board, 2000-Present
Vice President, Board of Directors, Women's Resource Center, May 2001-Present, Member since 1999

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