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Board of Education Meeting; Monday, Feb 4th, 2008 7PM
Topic Started: Feb 1 2008, 12:30 PM (3,859 Views)
Nikki
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Maybe the PTA should stop asking parents who are not PTA members for donations/help with fundraising?
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Renee Chesney
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Nikki
Feb 5 2008, 10:38 AM
Maybe the PTA should stop asking parents who are not PTA members for donations/help with fundraising?

I don't see any issue with asking. Just politely say "no"
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Renee Chesney
Feb 5 2008, 11:14 AM
Nikki
Feb 5 2008, 10:38 AM
Maybe the PTA should stop asking parents who are not PTA members for donations/help with fundraising?

Just politely say "no"

Every time..... ;)
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Mr.Bean
Feb 5 2008, 11:24 AM
Renee Chesney
Feb 5 2008, 11:14 AM
Nikki
Feb 5 2008, 10:38 AM
Maybe the PTA should stop asking parents who are not PTA members for donations/help with fundraising?

Just politely say "no"

Every time..... ;)

From now until doomsday ;)
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Renee Chesney
Feb 5 2008, 10:28 AM
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Feb 5 2008, 10:24 AM
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Feb 5 2008, 10:19 AM
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Feb 5 2008, 09:50 AM
Renee Chesney
Feb 5 2008, 09:37 AM
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Feb 5 2008, 08:35 AM
I think Steve King made an excellent point regarding the PTA buying playground equipment.  It is the school district's job to provide this.

At the beginning of the year we are asked to donate money to the PTA.  Then a field trip comes up, there is no money for buses, not enough parent drivers and the trip is canceled.  How about using the donations we made for this scenario?

I can imagine not many parents at Riley are going to support a fund raiser/donations for a new playscape when their kid is only there for two years.

While SK has no problem voting no on the bills for payment to make a point, why is he voting yes to accept the gift for playground equipment when he has issues with it? He should continue to make his point by voting no instead of yes.

Although I do have to question his comments regarding how PTA's should or should not use their fundraising dollars when he is not a PTA member.

He has to be a PTA member to make a comment? Wow.....I did not know that...

He can comment - freedom of speech being what it is. But it is certainly hypocritical that he comments on how an organization spends its $$$ when he doesn't have a membership or contributes to the organization.

Aren't you twisting what he said just a bit? His comment was directed at the district. The [size=7]district[/size] should be paying for the playground equipment. He was actually standing up for the PTA. ;)

Standing up for an organization he doesn't even belong to or support? Right.

Renee now YOU are the moron. What are you honestly thinking? SK is a BOARD MEMBER and he CAN question the spending and donation solicitation of this organization Because it interoperates with the district, just as he can question the spending of money by ANY of the programs within LPS (CAPA comes to mind) without having to be a 'member'

Listen, I don't condone animal cruelty, but I am also not a member of the PETA organization. Why do I need to belong to the organization to believe that cruely is wrong?
I won't tell them how to use their money - unless they carelessly spend it, and then come crying to me with their hand out for a donation.

Same goes for the Democratic or Republican parties. I'm not a dues paying member of either - can I NOT be critical of their spending???

And guess what - I'm not a member of the Livonia or Westland Chambers of commerce either - but you can bet that I'll be critical of their spending if I see something that doesn't add up.

Your comments on this forum are becoming increasingly ridiculous.
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Renee Chesney
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Feb 5 2008, 11:40 AM
Renee Chesney
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Feb 5 2008, 10:24 AM
Renee Chesney
Feb 5 2008, 10:19 AM
Mr.Bean
Feb 5 2008, 09:50 AM
Renee Chesney
Feb 5 2008, 09:37 AM
crazy_cat
Feb 5 2008, 08:35 AM
I think Steve King made an excellent point regarding the PTA buying playground equipment.  It is the school district's job to provide this.

At the beginning of the year we are asked to donate money to the PTA.  Then a field trip comes up, there is no money for buses, not enough parent drivers and the trip is canceled.  How about using the donations we made for this scenario?

I can imagine not many parents at Riley are going to support a fund raiser/donations for a new playscape when their kid is only there for two years.

While SK has no problem voting no on the bills for payment to make a point, why is he voting yes to accept the gift for playground equipment when he has issues with it? He should continue to make his point by voting no instead of yes.

Although I do have to question his comments regarding how PTA's should or should not use their fundraising dollars when he is not a PTA member.

He has to be a PTA member to make a comment? Wow.....I did not know that...

He can comment - freedom of speech being what it is. But it is certainly hypocritical that he comments on how an organization spends its $$$ when he doesn't have a membership or contributes to the organization.

Aren't you twisting what he said just a bit? His comment was directed at the district. The [size=7]district[/size] should be paying for the playground equipment. He was actually standing up for the PTA. ;)

Standing up for an organization he doesn't even belong to or support? Right.

Renee now YOU are the moron. What are you honestly thinking? SK is a BOARD MEMBER and he CAN question the spending and donation solicitation of this organization Because it interoperates with the district, just as he can question the spending of money by ANY of the programs within LPS (CAPA comes to mind) without having to be a 'member'

Listen, I don't condone animal cruelty, but I am also not a member of the PETA organization. Why do I need to belong to the organization to believe that cruely is wrong?
I won't tell them how to use their money - unless they carelessly spend it, and then come crying to me with their hand out for a donation.

Same goes for the Democratic or Republican parties. I'm not a dues paying member of either - can I NOT be critical of their spending???

And guess what - I'm not a member of the Livonia or Westland Chambers of commerce either - but you can bet that I'll be critical of their spending if I see something that doesn't add up.

Your comments on this forum are becoming increasingly ridiculous.

If he has an issue with PTA's buying playground equipment then why did he vote yes to accept the donation? He certainly has no problem saying no to make a point on other things. Balls back in your court moron.
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Only "members" of Congress can question government spending.
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Because the donation was for FIELD TRIPS and playground equipment.

Do you think SK would REJECT the entire donation because it also included playground equipment? If he would have voted 'no', he would have been the biggest stooge at the table last night. As we saw Scheel and Freeman had the honor of being the stooges.

Balls to you, B.
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Renee Chesney
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Feb 5 2008, 12:45 PM
Only "members" of Congress can question government spending.

sk says he doesn't want the PTA's paying for playground equipment and then votes yes to accept the donation - what a hypocrite.
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Renee Chesney
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Feb 5 2008, 12:48 PM
Because the donation was for FIELD TRIPS and playground equipment.

Do you think SK would REJECT the entire donation because it also included playground equipment? If he would have voted 'no', he would have been the biggest stooge at the table last night. As we saw Scheel and Freeman had the honor of being the stooges.

Balls to you, B.

And when he votes no on bills for payment are you saying there are no valid bills for payment in there ? Stooge is one word you could use to describe sk, I prefer another.
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Nikki
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Feb 5 2008, 12:48 PM
Because the donation was for FIELD TRIPS and playground equipment.

Do you think SK would REJECT the entire donation because it also included playground equipment? If he would have voted 'no', he would have been the biggest stooge at the table last night. As we saw Scheel and Freeman had the honor of being the stooges.

Balls to you, B.

I agree Harry. Playground equipment should be paid for by the district. Parents shouldn't have to raise or donate funds for such items. What's next? Is the PTA going to fund the electricity bill for the district? The district is obviously taking advantage of PTA/parent funds that could be put to use in other ways. I think that is what Mr. King was trying to point out. It's too bad it went right over your head, RC.
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Whats next?? Maybe the PTA will have to pay for protective glass to enclose our BOE members in during meetings! :lol:
I hope not.....Mr. Schultz would be missed. What a great guy! :)
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Renee Chesney
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Nikki
Feb 5 2008, 12:57 PM
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Feb 5 2008, 12:48 PM
Because the donation was for FIELD TRIPS and playground equipment.

Do you think SK would REJECT the entire donation because it also included playground equipment? If he would have voted 'no', he would have been the biggest stooge at the table last night. As we saw Scheel and Freeman had the honor of being the stooges.

Balls to you, B.

I agree Harry. Playground equipment should be paid for by the district. Parents shouldn't have to raise or donate funds for such items. What's next? Is the PTA going to fund the electricity bill for the district? The district is obviously taking advantage of PTA/parent funds that could be put to use in other ways. I think that is what Mr. King was trying to point out. It's too bad it went right over your head, RC.

How can he vote no on the consent agenda which includes minutes and other items because he has an issue with bills for payment and then turn around vote yes to accept a PTA donation when he has an issue with that? It is hypocritical anyway you cut it. Its too bad that concept went right over your head, but then again you starting to get that sheeple mentaility.
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A friend comes over on your birthday with a gift. You say, "Oh, no! You shouldn't have!" You realize that you are in better financial shape than your friend who has been struggling, but you accept the gift. Does that make you a hypocrite?
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Feb 5 2008, 01:13 PM
Whats next?? Maybe the PTA will have to pay for protective glass to enclose our BOE members in during meetings!  :lol:
I hope not.....Mr. Schultz would be missed. What a great guy! :)

Or they could buy a special throne for the queen. :lol: A new wardrobe for Randy. The list goes on and on.
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Can someone please post a video of the meeting from last night?
Particularly when Scheel got nasty with Steve King for questioning bills for payment and when Mr. Spence came forth to the podium.
Thanks
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Renee Chesney
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Feb 5 2008, 01:13 PM
A friend comes over on your birthday with a gift. You say, "Oh, no! You shouldn't have!" You realize that you are in better financial shape than your friend who has been struggling, but you accept the gift. Does that make you a hypocrite?

Yes.

He should have voted no if he has an issue with the PTA's buying playground equipment. He votes no every week on the consent agenda because he doesn't like the way bills for payment work. Personally, I don't care one way or the other if PTA's want to supplement the playground equipment I just think if he goes the extra to make a negative comment about it he should vote no on accepting the gift otherwise he is a hypocrite.
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Renee Chesney
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Feb 5 2008, 01:33 PM
Can someone please post a video of the meeting from last night?
Particularly when Scheel got nasty with Steve King for questioning bills for payment and when Mr. Spence came forth to the podium.
Thanks

I don't think she got nasty with sk for questioning bills for payment, she was "nasty" as you like to call it for sk once again trying to make something look like its not. He made it sound like he didn't have a chance to ask Lisa about bills for payment because Friday was a snow day and Lisa was out for personal reasons on Monday when in fact the stooge talked to Lisa earlier in the day.
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Feb 5 2008, 01:35 PM
Vanna White
Feb 5 2008, 01:13 PM
A friend comes over on your birthday with a gift.  You say, "Oh, no!  You shouldn't have!"  You realize that you are in better financial shape than your friend who has been struggling, but you accept the gift.  Does that make you a hypocrite?

Yes.

He should have voted no if he has an issue with the PTA's buying playground equipment. He votes no every week on the consent agenda because he doesn't like the way bills for payment work. Personally, I don't care one way or the other if PTA's want to supplement the playground equipment I just think if he goes the extra to make a negative comment about it he should vote no on accepting the gift otherwise he is a hypocrite.

You supporters would have had fire blowing out of your ears if SK had rejected the gift, or had made a motion to accept half of it. :o

Don't you get it?

SK doesn't feel that the PTA should HAVE TO supplement the equipment, but he'll accept their gift which is ALSO FOR FIELD TRIPS, instead of snubbing it.
It's not like it is blood money or anything.

This should be the sentiment of the entire BOE, and I'm sure will be a topic of future discussion - but for now, the entire BOE has accepted the gift. Yipee!! Thank you Buchanan PTA. (Although I apparently have no authority to comment on this, right Renee, since I don't belong to the Buchanan PTA, nor do my kids attend that school)

I am done discussing this facet of the meeting. I'll focus now on the outrageous actions of the BOE President and Secretary last night.

I hope that someone will post the video soon.
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I would love to see this video, too. As far as I am concerned, Scheel has no business getting "nasty" for ANY reason!
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