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Transportation Juggling; More Trinity Buses
Topic Started: Jan 28 2008, 08:43 AM (2,028 Views)
Renee Chesney
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Jan 29 2008, 05:57 PM
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Jan 29 2008, 02:26 PM
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Jan 29 2008, 06:27 PM
Well crap I am missing out.  My kid still has to walk two blocks in the dark to get her bus.  I thought I was on the $upporter plan, but I guess I am not.

Maybe the bus driver is too embarrassed to stop in front of your house?

I've heard your place doesn't have the greatest curb appeal..... or siding ;)

Like most things on here that would be a matter of opinion. I love where I live. Although I am sure your stalker friend would be happy to show you where I live.

Pigs like living in mud too... :lol:

You would know stalker :D
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Jan 29 2008, 08:41 PM
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Jan 28 2008, 07:43 AM
Why is it only the Riley parents who received this? Does this mean that only the Riley bus routes are affected? What about other schools?




Riley Parents,

In preparation for our annual state police safety
inspection, the district is leasing several buses from
Trinity to serve as substitute buses, so that our
Livonia buses can be sent out for needed repairs.
Whenever a Trinity bus and driver are used to
transport our students, they are accompanied by a
Livonia driver who is there to direct the Trinity
driver on the route and to manage the students. If you
have any questions concerning the use of Trinity buses
please call the transportation department at
734-744-2517 during regular business hours.

Steve Dickie
Transportation Dept.

Hey Sour- Why do you assume the worst and assume that only Riley families received this? We received it last week, which I thought was a very pro-active way to communicate about an issue that people might have a question about. From other responses here, it seems likely that it was distributed district-wide. You can't always guarantee the parents read what is sent home or sign up for school email mail-outs, let alone read their email.

I've got kids in 2 very different schools and we did not receive this letter in any mailouts, snail mailings, or school announcements of any type. And I do read and look at everything my children bring home nightly. No assumptions Dad, just the facts.
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Jan 30 2008, 08:42 AM
I've got kids in 2 very different schools and we did not receive this letter in any mailouts, snail mailings, or school announcements of any type. And I do read and look at everything my children bring home nightly. No assumptions Dad, just the facts.

Did you ask the administrators of your children's buildings?

Rather than asking the question here, try typing the question in an email to the admins, it really doesn't take any more effort to do that, you know :blink:
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Jan 30 2008, 07:19 PM
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Jan 30 2008, 08:42 AM
I've got kids in 2 very different schools and we did not receive this letter in any mailouts, snail mailings, or school announcements of any type. And I do read and look at everything my children bring home nightly. No assumptions Dad, just the facts.

Did you ask the administrators of your children's buildings?

Rather than asking the question here, try typing the question in an email to the admins, it really doesn't take any more effort to do that, you know :blink:

And if you make it a FOIA request, you just might get a response. ;)
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Jan 30 2008, 08:42 AM
I've got kids in 2 very different schools and we did not receive this letter in any mailouts, snail mailings, or school announcements of any type. And I do read and look at everything my children bring home nightly. No assumptions Dad, just the facts.

Did you ask the administrators of your children's buildings?

Rather than asking the question here, try typing the question in an email to the admins, it really doesn't take any more effort to do that, you know :blink:

And if you make it a FOIA request, you just might get a response. ;)

It really IS easier to ask the principal(s) in this case.
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Jan 28 2008, 07:43 AM
Why is it only the Riley parents who received this? Does this mean that only the Riley bus routes are affected? What about other schools?




Riley Parents,

In preparation for our annual state police safety
inspection, the district is leasing several buses from
Trinity to serve as substitute buses, so that our
Livonia buses can be sent out for needed repairs.
Whenever a Trinity bus and driver are used to
transport our students, they are accompanied by a
Livonia driver who is there to direct the Trinity
driver on the route and to manage the students. If you
have any questions concerning the use of Trinity buses
please call the transportation department at
734-744-2517 during regular business hours.

Steve Dickie
Transportation Dept.

Whenever a Trinity bus and driver are used to
transport our students, they are accompanied by a
Livonia driver who is there to direct the Trinity
driver on the route and to manage the students



So, we're paying the REAL driver and the BABYSITTER driver for one route?
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Jan 29 2008, 08:37 AM
Did you see the BOE meeting a few weeks back when a family's attorney had to come before the Board during audience communications regarding the bus issues the family was having? The family had been trying to get resolution since November and no one would help. :(

I missed this meeting. Can somebody provide more details? Why was an attorney needed? My kids are having problems on their bus and I would like to know if it's the same bus or the same problems. I too have contacted Mr. Dickie several times and my problem has not yet been resolved.
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Feb 3 2008, 05:52 AM
Sourapples
Jan 28 2008, 07:43 AM
Why is it only the Riley parents who received this? Does this mean that only the Riley bus routes are affected? What about other schools?




Riley Parents,

In preparation for our annual state police safety
inspection, the district is leasing several buses from
Trinity to serve as substitute buses, so that our
Livonia buses can be sent out for needed repairs.
Whenever a Trinity bus and driver are used to
transport our students, they are accompanied by a
Livonia driver who is there to direct the Trinity
driver on the route and to manage the students. If you
have any questions concerning the use of Trinity buses
please call the transportation department at
734-744-2517 during regular business hours.

Steve Dickie
Transportation Dept.

Whenever a Trinity bus and driver are used to
transport our students, they are accompanied by a
Livonia driver who is there to direct the Trinity
driver on the route and to manage the students



So, we're paying the REAL driver and the BABYSITTER driver for one route?

Yes, and it isn't cheap. Sigh....
“Child Abuse” means different things to different people....
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Jan 29 2008, 08:37 AM
Did you see the BOE meeting a few weeks back when a family's attorney had to come before the Board during audience communications regarding the bus issues the family was having?  The family had been trying to get resolution since November and no one would help.  :(

I missed this meeting. Can somebody provide more details? Why was an attorney needed? My kids are having problems on their bus and I would like to know if it's the same bus or the same problems. I too have contacted Mr. Dickie several times and my problem has not yet been resolved.

This young boy lives on Five Mile Road. His assigned bus stop is quite a distance from his home. The side of the street on which he lives does not have side walks which sometimes can be quite an issue when it snows and rains. The crazy part begins with the bus driving right by his house to get to the stop. The family has been trying to get resolution since November had been unsuccessful. Hopefully the attorney had helped. I guess we shall see, if the attorney for the family shows up again. If you listen to the pod cast for the January 14th meeting, it will give you the details. You have to listen to quite a bit of the meeting to get to the audience communications.
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I thought kids living on main roads were picked up at the curb.
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Some (elementary) children who live on mile roads walk to a secondary street within the subdivision to wait at a bus stop.

And of course some (middle school) children walk to a mile road or main road for a pickup.
I'd agree with you, but then we'd both be WRONG.
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So, we're paying the REAL driver and the BABYSITTER driver for one route?

Yes, and it isn't cheap. Sigh....

Are you saying that getting the kids back and forth safely is not worth the price?

It's not like we can afford to have extra buses just sitting around in case one needs to go in for repair.
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So, we're paying the REAL driver and the BABYSITTER driver for one route?

Yes, and it isn't cheap. Sigh....

Are you saying that getting the kids back and forth safely is not worth the price?

It's not like we can afford to have extra buses just sitting around in case one needs to go in for repair.



No, I confirmed we are paying 2 drivers to drive 1 bus. I then commented that it seems wastefull to pay 2 drivers to drive one bus. ;)

PS, I hope you are not implying that one of the two drivers is unsafe, thus requiring the backup. However, if you have information to that effect, please contact Mr. Dickey at your earlist convenience.
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So, we're paying the REAL driver and the BABYSITTER driver for one route?

Yes, and it isn't cheap. Sigh....

Are you saying that getting the kids back and forth safely is not worth the price?

It's not like we can afford to have extra buses just sitting around in case one needs to go in for repair.



No, I confirmed we are paying 2 drivers to drive 1 bus. I then commented that it seems wastefull to pay 2 drivers to drive one bus. ;)

PS, I hope you are not implying that one of the two drivers is unsafe, thus requiring the backup. However, if you have information to that effect, please contact Mr. Dickey at your earlist convenience.

I am not implying that at all.

I assume that Trinity is requiring that their own drivers be used with their buses, and I am guessing that LPS' contract with their drivers probably requires them to be paid too. I have to believe if there were a way around paying two drivers, they wouldn't be doing it.

I would also assume that this is not happening with large numbers of buses, since only a few buses would be required to have service.

I guess if it bothered me that much I would FOIA it :P
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So, we're paying the REAL driver and the BABYSITTER driver for one route?

Yes, and it isn't cheap. Sigh....

Are you saying that getting the kids back and forth safely is not worth the price?

It's not like we can afford to have extra buses just sitting around in case one needs to go in for repair.



No, I confirmed we are paying 2 drivers to drive 1 bus. I then commented that it seems wastefull to pay 2 drivers to drive one bus. ;)

PS, I hope you are not implying that one of the two drivers is unsafe, thus requiring the backup. However, if you have information to that effect, please contact Mr. Dickey at your earlist convenience.

I am not implying that at all.

I assume that Trinity is requiring that their own drivers be used with their buses, and I am guessing that LPS' contract with their drivers probably requires them to be paid too. I have to believe if there were a way around paying two drivers, they wouldn't be doing it.

I would also assume that this is not happening with large numbers of buses, since only a few buses would be required to have service.

I guess if it bothered me that much I would FOIA it :P

Just make sure to post the response you get.
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So, we're paying the REAL driver and the BABYSITTER driver for one route?

Yes, and it isn't cheap. Sigh....

Are you saying that getting the kids back and forth safely is not worth the price?

It's not like we can afford to have extra buses just sitting around in case one needs to go in for repair.



No, I confirmed we are paying 2 drivers to drive 1 bus. I then commented that it seems wastefull to pay 2 drivers to drive one bus. ;)

PS, I hope you are not implying that one of the two drivers is unsafe, thus requiring the backup. However, if you have information to that effect, please contact Mr. Dickey at your earlist convenience.

I am not implying that at all.

I assume that Trinity is requiring that their own drivers be used with their buses, and I am guessing that LPS' contract with their drivers probably requires them to be paid too. I have to believe if there were a way around paying two drivers, they wouldn't be doing it.

I would also assume that this is not happening with large numbers of buses, since only a few buses would be required to have service.

I guess if it bothered me that much I would FOIA it :P

Just make sure to post the response you get.

Sorry, Ref, I really don't care enough to be bothered with it. I'll leave it up to you.
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You should. It's this kind of waste that is going to cost ALL of us.
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