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You Tube Video on Livonia Mayor's race; The facts on the Kirksey campaign
Topic Started: Oct 30 2007, 08:23 AM (6,065 Views)
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[size=7]http://www.youtube.com/enoughisenoughjack[/size]

Those who have received recent campaign literature from the Jack Kirsksey Team or from the special interest groups outside Livonia might want to check out this video posted last night on You Tube.

This video might provide a slightly different view of the campaign for Mayor of Livonia.

The link is being circulated around town and I thought it is one that needed to be shared.

I offer it without editorial comment. But would be interested to see what reaction there is to the sourced material provided within the video.

http://www.youtube.com/enoughisenoughjack

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At least the use of the source material in this video is not as distorted or manipulative as the stuff coming in my mail every damn day from the republican this, and the right to life that, and wherever else. All from outside Livonia. It appears many have fears that jack won't win, and hence they will not be able to advance their political agendas further by using Livonia voters as pawns for their games.
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Nice to see jack tell the truth, straight from the horses mouth and right off his own paperwork. Will be interesting to see his final campaign report to see how much he has been double talking down to the citizens.



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Kirksey should stand up and tell the truth now like he did after he was elected before. But I'm sure it is easier after you win ;)
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That is one of the funniest things I have ever seen. Thanks Bill Joyner your typical way. Nice of you not to mention the $10,000 Maureen received from Jenny or how about the $1,000 per person fundraiser Ficano and Jenny put on at Kevin Kelley's house in where???? Redford. We all know where this came from. Getting nervous?????? I can't wait to see the response. If these things are such a big deal, why weren't they brought up at the 3 or 4 forums. Get real. No one was singling out Ficano's donation. No substance just like Maureen.
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Let's put that on TV....
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This shows the hypocricy at work in the Kirksey campaign. He is doing the exact same things that he is attacking Brosnan about. Someone here often sums it up well with, "Pot. Kettle. Black."
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Renee Chesney
Oct 30 2007, 07:43 AM
That is one of the funniest things I have ever seen.

Your right, it is one of the funniest things I have ever seen, and also the most revealing of the truth that I have seen yet. The best thing is it is right from Jack Kirksey's own mouth and directly from his own record(s).
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Al Beabak
Oct 30 2007, 08:04 AM
Renee Chesney
Oct 30 2007, 07:43 AM
That is one of the funniest things I have ever seen.

Your right, it is one of the funniest things I have ever seen, and also the most revealing of the truth that I have seen yet. The best thing is it is right from Jack Kirksey's own mouth and directly from his own record(s).

Funny or sad...not quite sure...
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Now, what's really funny is Renee's feeble attempts to defend him. No real answers to anything, other than to claim the opponent lacks substance. Ah, I love irony! :P

How about a substantive answer on say, the taxes issue? Did he or did he not give examples of how he had raised taxes as evidence of his success as mayor? Has he or has he not claimed Brosnan is a "tax and spend democrat" as a reason voters shouldn't elect her? If those are true, why isn't that blatant hypocrisy?

Now, in fairness, we should ask what role in those taxes did Brosnan play as a city council member? Which is to say simply that they both may be equally guilty or responsible for raising taxes from a practical standpoint.

But are they both trying to warn that it's a dangerous habit of the other?
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Oct 30 2007, 08:33 AM
Now, what's really funny is Renee's feeble attempts to defend him. No real answers to anything, other than to claim the opponent lacks substance. Ah, I love irony! :P

How about a substantive answer on say, the taxes issue? Did he or did he not give examples of how he had raised taxes as evidence of his success as mayor? Has he or has he not claimed Brosnan is a "tax and spend democrat" as a reason voters shouldn't elect her? If those are true, why isn't that blatant hypocrisy?

Now, in fairness, we should ask what role in those taxes did Brosnan play as a city council member? Which is to say simply that they both may be equally guilty or responsible for raising taxes from a practical standpoint.

But are they both trying to warn that it's a dangerous habit of the other?

Well, the warnings I received as mailers against Maureen Brosnan were all clearly marked by the Wayne 11th CDRC - a huge Republican PAC out of Wayne County.

The warning I get from this video against Jack Kirksey is clearly identified as Jack Kirksey himself.

Need I say more? Who is dishing the dirt and spilling his own beans - Jack



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BoaterDan
Oct 30 2007, 08:33 AM
Now, what's really funny is Renee's feeble attempts to defend him. No real answers to anything, other than to claim the opponent lacks substance. Ah, I love irony! :P

How about a substantive answer on say, the taxes issue? Did he or did he not give examples of how he had raised taxes as evidence of his success as mayor? Has he or has he not claimed Brosnan is a "tax and spend democrat" as a reason voters shouldn't elect her? If those are true, why isn't that blatant hypocrisy?

Now, in fairness, we should ask what role in those taxes did Brosnan play as a city council member? Which is to say simply that they both may be equally guilty or responsible for raising taxes from a practical standpoint.

But are they both trying to warn that it's a dangerous habit of the other?

Aw, come on Dan. Cut her some slack. Defending the indefensible is hard work. ;)
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Oct 30 2007, 02:21 PM
BoaterDan
Oct 30 2007, 08:33 AM
Now, what's really funny is Renee's feeble attempts to defend him.  No real answers to anything, other than to claim the opponent lacks substance.  Ah, I love irony!  :P

How about a substantive answer on say, the taxes issue?  Did he or did he not give examples of how he had raised taxes as evidence of his success as mayor?  Has he or has he not claimed Brosnan is a "tax and spend democrat" as a reason voters shouldn't elect her?  If those are true, why isn't that blatant hypocrisy?

Now, in fairness, we should ask what role in those taxes did Brosnan play as a city council member?  Which is to say simply that they both may be equally guilty or responsible for raising taxes from a practical standpoint. 

But are they both trying to warn that it's a dangerous habit of the other?

Aw, come on Dan. Cut her some slack. Defending the indefensible is hard work. ;)

I betcha RC is digging hard for something, anything she can get to use in jacks defense of his own words. :blink:
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Oct 30 2007, 11:37 AM
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Oct 30 2007, 02:21 PM
BoaterDan
Oct 30 2007, 08:33 AM
Now, what's really funny is Renee's feeble attempts to defend him.  No real answers to anything, other than to claim the opponent lacks substance.  Ah, I love irony!  :P

How about a substantive answer on say, the taxes issue?  Did he or did he not give examples of how he had raised taxes as evidence of his success as mayor?  Has he or has he not claimed Brosnan is a "tax and spend democrat" as a reason voters shouldn't elect her?  If those are true, why isn't that blatant hypocrisy?

Now, in fairness, we should ask what role in those taxes did Brosnan play as a city council member?  Which is to say simply that they both may be equally guilty or responsible for raising taxes from a practical standpoint. 

But are they both trying to warn that it's a dangerous habit of the other?

Aw, come on Dan. Cut her some slack. Defending the indefensible is hard work. ;)

I betcha RC is digging hard for something, anything she can get to use in jacks defense of his own words. :blink:

Don't need to. Maureen doesn't have any sound bites that can be twisted against her because she doesn't have anything that stands on its own (no experience, no leadership). It is a really funny commerical because anyone that knows anything about Livonia knows it for the crap it is.
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All I see are negative, divisive, and damaging scare tactics coming from Kirksey. What exactly is a lie and crap in this video Renee?
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Renee Chesney
Oct 30 2007, 11:43 AM
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Oct 30 2007, 11:37 AM
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Oct 30 2007, 02:21 PM
BoaterDan
Oct 30 2007, 08:33 AM
Now, what's really funny is Renee's feeble attempts to defend him.  No real answers to anything, other than to claim the opponent lacks substance.  Ah, I love irony!  :P

How about a substantive answer on say, the taxes issue?  Did he or did he not give examples of how he had raised taxes as evidence of his success as mayor?  Has he or has he not claimed Brosnan is a "tax and spend democrat" as a reason voters shouldn't elect her?  If those are true, why isn't that blatant hypocrisy?

Now, in fairness, we should ask what role in those taxes did Brosnan play as a city council member?  Which is to say simply that they both may be equally guilty or responsible for raising taxes from a practical standpoint. 

But are they both trying to warn that it's a dangerous habit of the other?

Aw, come on Dan. Cut her some slack. Defending the indefensible is hard work. ;)

I betcha RC is digging hard for something, anything she can get to use in jacks defense of his own words. :blink:

Don't need to. Maureen doesn't have any sound bites that can be twisted against her because she doesn't have anything that stands on its own (no experience, no leadership). It is a really funny commerical because anyone that knows anything about Livonia knows it for the crap it is.

It sounded like Jack to me cooking his own goose.
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Well, what do you know. I just got the mail, and yet another Brosnan hit piece. Looks like I will be working for the Brosnan campaign this weekend. Where do I sign up? Seriously, where?
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Oct 30 2007, 04:53 PM
Well, what do you know. I just got the mail, and yet another Brosnan hit piece. Looks like I will be working for the Brosnan campaign this weekend. Where do I sign up? Seriously, where?

here

Volunteer for Brosnan Campaign
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Oct 30 2007, 11:43 AM
Don't need to.  Maureen doesn't have any sound bites that can be twisted against her because she doesn't have anything that stands on its own (no experience, no leadership).  It is a really funny commerical because anyone that knows anything about Livonia knows it for the crap it is.

Seriously, you're cracking me up.

Let me paraphrase what you're saying -

"I don't have to defend accusations against my candidate because I can't find any way to make accusations against his opponent."

Again I ask, did he or did he not cite examples of raising taxes as examples of his successful leadership? That sure seems to be what I saw on the video. I apparently don't know "anything about Livonia" because I have no idea whether or not it's crap. If it is then tell me why.

Do you have the integrity to answer a direct question?
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Oct 30 2007, 11:53 AM
Well, what do you know. I just got the mail, and yet another Brosnan hit piece. Looks like I will be working for the Brosnan campaign this weekend. Where do I sign up? Seriously, where?

Well, Jack is the master of dirty politics. He and his "good 'ole boys".
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