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Kirksey getting desperate; Slams and attacks to increase daily now
Topic Started: Oct 22 2007, 08:03 AM (5,198 Views)
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Jack says a lot of things, but lets not forget it is his opinion. I do not take everything he says as fact. I only hear and see the partisan politics coming from Kirksey through statements like the one you mention, letters in the paper, and a huge word of mouth campaign slamming Brosnan. I wasn't going to support Brosnan, but after what I have seen this past week, I likely will walk over to her campaign headquarters and volunteer. And I encourage any other moderate republicans like myself to do so also. Brosnan obviously is way more likely to look at both sides. Jack is way to far to the right. And I made that mistake with Bush, and won't make it again.

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Harry,

I don't like "hit" pieces put out by anyone, I would rather that they not happen, but they do. Did Jack pay for this last piece that has your shorts in a knot? I agree with livoniarocks, Jack said the position was non-partisan and it is, the election has been partisan from the very beginning. The Democrats targeted this city to get their candidate in before ANY of the candidates ever declared (with the exception of Joe Laura because he declared shortly after the last Mayoral election). The Democrats goal is to make Maureen well known so that she can run for a bigger more powerful position.

I normally tend to vote Democratic, but I won't be this time.
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Thats also just your opinion. And Jacks big selling point also. You guys were sure quick to blame those "legacy people" for the last slam mailer. Are you now suggesting that it just might be possible that someone else may have done it??
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Oct 24 2007, 03:47 PM
The Democrats targeted this city to get their candidate in before ANY of the candidates ever declared (with the exception of Joe Laura because he declared shortly after the last Mayoral election). The Democrats goal is to make Maureen well known so that she can run for a bigger more powerful position.

I keep hearing this but no one seems to be able to tell us where this information comes from. The only alleged "evidence" of this is a dontation from the governor. I have not heard a single word from Maureen Brosnan or her supporters that would make me think she will not be an independent thinker that does what is best for Livonia. I am no fan of Jennifer Grandholm, but I will be voting for Maureen.

On the other hand, her opponent and his supporters keep bringing up the party issues over and over again both here, in mailers, and Kirksey even made a crack about Ms. Brosnan calling her friend Jennifer at a candidate forum. Both candidates have donations from people who identify themselves as belonging to a particular party but only one keeps bringing it up in this supposed non-partisian election. We have a democratic governor right now, but if we had a republican governor, he or she would probably send money to the Kirksey campaign and I am sure he would accept it. Livonia is a big city after all.

To me, the issue is not which party each candidate is connected to, it is the continuing tactic of making that into an issue which is really offensive in this context. I vote for both Republicans and Democrats at times, but in this election, I will vote for the best candidate period, Maureen Brosnan.
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Oct 24 2007, 04:09 PM
jolly rancher
Oct 24 2007, 03:47 PM
The Democrats targeted this city to get their candidate in before ANY of the candidates ever declared (with the exception of Joe Laura because he declared shortly after the last Mayoral election). The Democrats goal is to make Maureen well known so that she can run for a bigger more powerful position.

I keep hearing this but no one seems to be able to tell us where this information comes from. The only alleged "evidence" of this is a dontation from the governor. I have not heard a single word from Maureen Brosnan or her supporters that would make me think she will not be an independent thinker that does what is best for Livonia. I am no fan of Jennifer Grandholm, but I will be voting for Maureen.

On the other hand, her opponent and his supporters keep bringing up the party issues over and over again both here, in mailers, and Kirksey even made a crack about Ms. Brosnan calling her friend Jennifer at a candidate forum. Both candidates have donations from people who identify themselves as belonging to a particular party but only one keeps bringing it up in this supposed non-partisian election. We have a democratic governor right now, but if we had a republican governor, he or she would probably send money to the Kirksey campaign and I am sure he would accept it. Livonia is a big city after all.

To me, the issue is not which party each candidate is connected to, it is the continuing tactic of making that into an issue which is really offensive in this context. I vote for both Republicans and Democrats at times, but in this election, I will vote for the best candidate period, Maureen Brosnan.

Just look at the article in the News, it quotes office holding democrats for Maureen and just Jack and one of his supporters for Jack's side. At least Jack is honest and admits that the race is partisian. Jack has proven he can run the mayoral office as non-partisian. Maureen hasn't
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Oct 24 2007, 03:47 PM
Did Jack pay for this last piece that has your shorts in a knot?

Actually, yes, he did. Look at the list of donors to the "club". His name is clearly there.
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Oct 24 2007, 05:03 PM
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Oct 24 2007, 03:47 PM
Did Jack pay for this last piece that has your shorts in a knot?

Actually, yes, he did. Look at the list of donors to the "club". His name is clearly there.

Let me rephrase, did his campaign pay for it?
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Oct 24 2007, 04:03 PM
Thats also just your opinion. And Jacks big selling point also. You guys were sure quick to blame those "legacy people" for the last slam mailer. Are you now suggesting that it just might be possible that someone else may have done it??

Did you see the last part of my post JIMID? I said that I am normally vote democrat, so I have some information from the party. That is the talk in the party. Not just my opinon.

I don't know who did the "hit" piece on Jack before the primary, and I won't point a finger, it is just interesting that Extra Olives seems to know an awful lot about who did not have anything to do with that piece so it makes sense that she/he knows who did it.
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Hey Renee is it raining where you are? I didn't think you would have time to sit down at a computer while out of town. Must be a monsoon where you are. :lol: :lol: :lol: Have Fun!!!!
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Oct 24 2007, 06:11 PM
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Oct 24 2007, 04:03 PM
Thats also just your opinion. And Jacks big selling point also. You guys were sure quick to blame those "legacy people" for the last slam mailer. Are you now suggesting that it just might be possible that someone else may have done it??

Did you see the last part of my post JIMID? I said that I am normally vote democrat, so I have some information from the party. That is the talk in the party. Not just my opinon.

I don't know who did the "hit" piece on Jack before the primary, and I won't point a finger, it is just interesting that Extra Olives seems to know an awful lot about who did not have anything to do with that piece so it makes sense that she/he knows who did it.

Wow. I am impressed! You are a democrat and have all that super secret inside info? You are right, I am a republican and would have no idea :lol: . You should hear some of the things we Republicans know :ph43r: . Hey....do you want to know what really happened to Kennedy??? :ph43r: :lol: :lol:
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jolly rancher
Oct 24 2007, 03:47 PM
I don't like "hit" pieces put out by anyone, I would rather that they not happen, but they do. Did Jack pay for this last piece that has your shorts in a knot?

Well actually, he did contribute to the PAC that put the piece out, so I guess the official answer would be yes.
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Oct 24 2007, 05:08 PM
Extra Olives
Oct 24 2007, 05:03 PM
jolly rancher
Oct 24 2007, 03:47 PM
Did Jack pay for this last piece that has your shorts in a knot?

Actually, yes, he did. Look at the list of donors to the "club". His name is clearly there.

Let me rephrase, did his campaign pay for it?

You don't get a second chance at the question. it is irrelevant if the "campaign" paid for it when he paid himself personally.
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Oct 24 2007, 05:11 PM
Did you see the last part of my post JIMID? I said that I am normally vote democrat, so I have some information from the party. That is the talk in the party. Not just my opinon.

Well that sure is reliable evidence! We have similar evidence of the Republican shady dealings in Livonia, so you better be careful who you elect.
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Maybe it is less a "Republican" thing, or a "Democrat" thing, as it is a good ol' boy insider thing.

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Oct 24 2007, 08:55 PM
Maybe it is less a "Republican" thing, or a "Democrat" thing, as it is a good ol' boy insider thing.

Vote for good people, not labels.

Well that's how I am looking at it, but the former mayor and his legion prefer to make it about party politics.
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Oct 24 2007, 05:08 PM
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Oct 24 2007, 05:03 PM
jolly rancher
Oct 24 2007, 03:47 PM
Did Jack pay for this last piece that has your shorts in a knot?

Actually, yes, he did. Look at the list of donors to the "club". His name is clearly there.

Let me rephrase, did his campaign pay for it?

Doesn't matter. The PAC he contributes to paid for it. He gave them money. He paid for it.
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Oct 24 2007, 05:11 PM
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Oct 24 2007, 04:03 PM
Thats also just your opinion. And Jacks big selling point also. You guys were sure quick to blame those "legacy people" for the last slam mailer. Are you now suggesting that it just might be possible that someone else may have done it??

Did you see the last part of my post JIMID? I said that I am normally vote democrat, so I have some information from the party. That is the talk in the party. Not just my opinon.

I don't know who did the "hit" piece on Jack before the primary, and I won't point a finger, it is just interesting that Extra Olives seems to know an awful lot about who did not have anything to do with that piece so it makes sense that she/he knows who did it.

:lol: :lol: :lol: You're funny! Actually, I'm glad I don't know who did it and the person(s) who did do it should be even gladder, cuz I have a hard time keeping things like that a secret. :o
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I watched the LWV forum last night. Why did Kirksey use his time (in his closing comments) to address the "hit" piece against him? If it's not true, as he claims, than he should have ignored it. Addressing it in his closing comments made him look bad---IMO. Instead of whining about the mailer, he should be giving the voters reasons to vote for him.
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Oct 25 2007, 09:03 AM
I watched the LWV forum last night. Why did Kirksey use his time (in his closing comments) to address the "hit" piece against him? If it's not true, as he claims, than he should have ignored it. Addressing it in his closing comments made him look bad---IMO. Instead of whining about the mailer, he should be giving the voters reasons to vote for him.

To accent the fact that while Maureen denies having anything to do with the piece, she doesn't denounce such a practice and request if anyone is doing it on her behalf to please stop. I think you have to look at what is and ISN'T being said.
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Oct 25 2007, 10:37 AM
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Oct 25 2007, 09:03 AM
I watched the LWV forum last night.  Why did Kirksey use his time (in his closing comments) to address the "hit" piece against him?  If it's not true, as he claims, than he should have ignored it.  Addressing it in his closing comments made him look bad---IMO. Instead of whining about the mailer, he should be giving the voters reasons to vote for him.

To accent the fact that while Maureen denies having anything to do with the piece, she doesn't denounce such a practice and request if anyone is doing it on her behalf to please stop. I think you have to look at what is and ISN'T being said.

Again, why keep bringing it up? It's old news. Move on. Tell us why we should be voting for you, Jack.
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