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Kirksey getting desperate; Slams and attacks to increase daily now
Topic Started: Oct 22 2007, 08:03 AM (5,199 Views)
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That article is very sad. Deep, deep division is what Jack Kirksey wants for this city. That will help him win, at whatever cost. I know a lot of you know me and know I am not prone to too much bull. This Kirksey campaign of division is complete bull, and I personally am not going to sit around and take it.

I am a Republican, and always have been. I am a moderate Republican, not a right wing extremist like Jack Kirksey. Republicans like Kirksey and Bush really hurt our party, especially with younger Republicans. It's no secret that I would never vote for Kirksey, because I saw first hand how he operates in the BOE elections. But I was not going to support Maureen Brosnan either. I sure as heck will support her now. She has proven to be the right candidate, and most bi-partisan candidate. She is the right candidate for the right time. We need to move forward, and we can't do it together, if Jack Kirksey is elected.

I urge all of you moderate republicans out there to vote for Maureen Brosnan. I urge all of you to write letters to all of the newspapers every week until the election. Talk to everyone you know, because the good ole Kirksey boys network is spreading the negativity and divisiveness in every back alley possible. Thanks for the negativity, divisiveness, and bull-ohney Jack, because you have also shown me the right direction.

Vote Maureen Brosnan on Tuesday, November 6, 2007
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Renee Chesney
Oct 22 2007, 07:48 AM
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Oct 22 2007, 07:44 AM
They are whinning about the 10K from the gov., but the nearly 5K from AG Cox is what, peanuts?

They are politicians-every politician is beholden to someone.  Can't Ricketts, et al they come up with something else?  They've been whinning about the 10K for weeks now.

The truth hurts. I find it fascinating that Maureen describes herself as "independent." Check the State of Michigan website --- she is a Democrat. What a LIar. What will she LIe about next?????? She is just in plain denial that this isn't a partisian race. Face the truth Maureen. Why isn't her resume the same on her website as it is on the State of Michigan website? Executive Vice President? That company tanked and was dissolved by the State of Michigan. Now there is leadership skills.

Renee, unfortunately she is not in denial about being a Democrat, she is just obviously embarassed to associate herself with them since they've just raised out tickets and her best friend, the Governor, has done nothing to improve Michigan.
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Now they're 'best friends' livoniarocks???? Didn't know you knew them well enough to make that statement. Talk about mis-leading the public.
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Oct 23 2007, 01:16 PM
she is just obviously embarassed to associate herself with them since they've just raised out tickets and her best friend, the Governor, has done nothing to improve Michigan.

Many people try to disconnect themselves from subjects, groups, affiliations, activities that shine a bad light on them.

Marecki and the LI

Ulterior motives for a political seat - considering a judgeship will be vacant since Brezinski has reached the 'age'.


And a few years ago it was Engler that did nothing to improve Michigan.



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Quote: "Has anyone heard of the phone survey being conducted over the past week? Apparantly, along with people being asked for whom they will be voting, they are also asked if they are aware that Brosnan was an opponant of the LI. Are we confusing issues again? First they attack Maureen for being a democrat in a non-partisan race. Then they attack Maureen for taking money from known dems. Now they're bringing the school issues into the mayoral campaign."

I did receive this phone call (asking about the LI) I thought the question was something like "how would you feel about a candidate that publicly supported the LI, which closed down neighborhood schools, etc... ? " (which I thought was Kirksey?) So I had assumed that was a negative to Kirksey and it was the Brosnan team calling? The issues aren't the only things that're getting confused.....(I'm pretty confused myself LOL) :)
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As long as you are not confused when you step into the voting booth! ;)




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Oct 23 2007, 10:33 AM
That article is very sad. Deep, deep division is what Jack Kirksey wants for this city. That will help him win, at whatever cost. I know a lot of you know me and know I am not prone to too much bull. This Kirksey campaign of division is complete bull, and I personally am not going to sit around and take it.

I am a Republican, and always have been. I am a moderate Republican, not a right wing extremist like Jack Kirksey. Republicans like Kirksey and Bush really hurt our party, especially with younger Republicans. It's no secret that I would never vote for Kirksey, because I saw first hand how he operates in the BOE elections. But I was not going to support Maureen Brosnan either. I sure as heck will support her now. She has proven to be the right candidate, and most bi-partisan candidate. She is the right candidate for the right time. We need to move forward, and we can't do it together, if Jack Kirksey is elected.

I urge all of you moderate republicans out there to vote for Maureen Brosnan. I urge all of you to write letters to all of the newspapers every week until the election. Talk to everyone you know, because the good ole Kirksey boys network is spreading the negativity and divisiveness in every back alley possible. Thanks for the negativity, divisiveness, and bull-ohney Jack, because you have also shown me the right direction.

Vote Maureen Brosnan on Tuesday, November 6, 2007

Don't forget about us Conservative Republicans Jimid. ;)

You don't have to be Moderate to be disgusted with ol' Jack.
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Oct 23 2007, 03:20 PM
Quote: "Has anyone heard of the phone survey being conducted over the past week? Apparantly, along with people being asked for whom they will be voting, they are also asked if they are aware that Brosnan was an opponant of the LI. Are we confusing issues again? First they attack Maureen for being a democrat in a non-partisan race. Then they attack Maureen for taking money from known dems. Now they're bringing the school issues into the mayoral campaign."

I did receive this phone call (asking about the LI) I thought the question was something like "how would you feel about a candidate that publicly supported the LI, which closed down neighborhood schools, etc... ? " (which I thought was Kirksey?) So I had assumed that was a negative to Kirksey and it was the Brosnan team calling? The issues aren't the only things that're getting confused.....(I'm pretty confused myself LOL) :)

I'm confused too, but of this I'm certain -- Brosnan has NO slam phone surveys or mailers circulating. I spoke to someone from her campaign today to verify this. She does not know who is putting these things out there, but wants it to stop.
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It is unfortunate when people take it upon themselves to "help" and may do more harm than good. At least with that slam piece against Brosnan, it is clear where it came from. The donations made to that PAC are from Republicans in and out of Livonia, including Mr. Kirksey himself.
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I find it interesting and quite funny how the "Kirksey Camp" is squaking about 10K from Granholm...squaking about democrat this and screaming that Maureen is a Democrat from the highest building in Livonia - Quicken Loans.

I do recall that our current Republican-tied mayor (Engelbretsen) tried to appoint Maureen to the Planning Commission not too long ago and the high horse seated Council denied said appointment due to political posturing and pressure from the Michgian Republicans....not because she wasn't extremely qualified but because she wasn't one of "them"'....this type of politiking has gone on long enough. It has become more about their crappy agendas and less about what is best for the city of Livonia....historically the population has been Republican but guess what, going that route hasn't done us any good in the past and it is time for change....change for the better where diversity in politics can be a positive and where the ideas can work for all citizens and what is best for the City of Livonia.


Down with the "good ole boy" front.
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Oct 24 2007, 04:05 AM
I find it interesting and quite funny how the "Kirksey Camp" is squaking about 10K from Granholm...squaking about democrat this and screaming that Maureen is a Democrat from the highest building in Livonia - Quicken Loans.

I do recall that our current Republican-tied mayor (Engelbretsen) tried to appoint Maureen to the Planning Commission not too long ago and the high horse seated Council denied said appointment due to political posturing and pressure from the Michgian Republicans....not because she wasn't extremely qualified but because she wasn't one of "them"'....this type of politiking has gone on long enough. It has become more about their crappy agendas and less about what is best for the city of Livonia....historically the population has been Republican but guess what, going that route hasn't done us any good in the past and it is time for change....change for the better where diversity in politics can be a positive and where the ideas can work for all citizens and what is best for the City of Livonia.


Down with the "good ole boy" front.

If you want to see what organization paid for the nasty mailers and web sites against Maureen Brosnan, and who donates as wellas receives money from this organization just take a look at this web site and check out the donations and contributions made over the years. Kind of like a "who's who in the good ol' boys network in Livonia City and School politics. It's enough to make you wanna puke.

WAYNE ELEVENTH CONGRESSIONAL DISTRICT REPUBLICAN COMMITTEE

And this is only one of a large number of Political PACS that money is funneled through for our local elections. Much of what you see here is only a portion of what really goes on.
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Oct 24 2007, 06:56 AM
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Oct 24 2007, 04:05 AM
I find it interesting and quite funny how the "Kirksey Camp" is squaking about 10K from Granholm...squaking about democrat this and screaming that Maureen is a Democrat from the highest building in Livonia - Quicken Loans.

I do recall that our current Republican-tied mayor (Engelbretsen) tried to appoint Maureen to the Planning Commission not too long ago and the high horse seated Council denied said appointment due to political posturing and pressure from the Michgian Republicans....not because she wasn't extremely qualified but because she wasn't one of "them"'....this type of politiking has gone on long enough. It has become more about their crappy agendas and less about what is best for the city of Livonia....historically the population has been Republican but guess what, going that route hasn't done us any good in the past and it is time for change....change for the better where diversity in politics can be a positive and where the ideas can work for all citizens and what is best for the City of Livonia.


Down with the "good ole boy" front.

If you want to see what organization paid for the nasty mailers and web sites against Maureen Brosnan, and who donates as wellas receives money from this organization just take a look at this web site and check out the donations and contributions made over the years. Kind of like a "who's who in the good ol' boys network in Livonia City and School politics. It's enough to make you wanna puke.

WAYNE ELEVENTH CONGRESSIONAL DISTRICT REPUBLICAN COMMITTEE

And this is only one of a large number of Political PACS that money is funneled through for our local elections. Much of what you see here is only a portion of what really goes on.

A lot of the names from the list of donors and recipients in the Wayne Eleventh CDRC PAC from the past few years are the same names on Jack's supporter list. It even includes the Treasurer of the PAC. Is that legal or ethical to be the Treasurer of a PAC that is providing funds and support for a candidate and be listed as a supporter also? Does not sound like a very intelligent move on her part.
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Oct 23 2007, 11:05 PM
I find it interesting and quite funny how the "Kirksey Camp" is squaking about 10K from Granholm...squaking about democrat this and screaming that Maureen is a Democrat from the highest building in Livonia - Quicken Loans.

I do recall that our current Republican-tied mayor (Engelbretsen) tried to appoint Maureen to the Planning Commission not too long ago and the high horse seated Council denied said appointment due to political posturing and pressure from the Michgian Republicans....not because she wasn't extremely qualified but because she wasn't one of "them"'....this type of politiking has gone on long enough. It has become more about their crappy agendas and less about what is best for the city of Livonia....historically the population has been Republican but guess what, going that route hasn't done us any good in the past and it is time for change....change for the better where diversity in politics can be a positive and where the ideas can work for all citizens and what is best for the City of Livonia.


Down with the "good ole boy" front.

Touche, Diva. Let's see them argue that one.
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Wow, that is stunning. So appearenty our city leaders are non-partisan, as long as you are non-democrat. This is extremely sad, especially for a Republican. The past four years have been difficult for me as a Republican. George Bush has not givin me one good reason to be happy I voted for him. He is way to right wing. He has made me realize that I can dislike right wing extremists just as much as I hate left wing wackos. Thats why I won't vote for Kirksey. I won't make that mistake again. The average citizen is the one who ends up suffering.
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Oct 24 2007, 10:21 AM
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Oct 23 2007, 11:05 PM
I find it interesting and quite funny how the "Kirksey Camp" is squaking about 10K from Granholm...squaking about democrat this and screaming that Maureen is a Democrat from the highest building in Livonia - Quicken Loans.

I do recall that our current Republican-tied mayor (Engelbretsen) tried to appoint Maureen to the Planning Commission not too long ago and the high horse seated Council denied said appointment due to political posturing and pressure from the Michgian Republicans....not because she wasn't extremely qualified but because she wasn't one of "them"'....this type of politiking has gone on long enough. It has become more about their crappy agendas and less about what is best for the city of Livonia....historically the population has been Republican but guess what, going that route hasn't done us any good in the past and it is time for change....change for the better where diversity in politics can be a positive and where the ideas can work for all citizens and what is best for the City of Livonia.


Down with the "good ole boy" front.

Touche, Diva. Let's see them argue that one.

The "good ole boy" front is on both sides of the aisle. Not just Republican. This is politics, that's the way it works. It is unfortunate, but that's how it is.
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Only if you let it work that way. :(
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Oct 24 2007, 03:16 PM
Only if you let it work that way. :(

It's not about making or letting it work that way. That's how history is. People who get involved, usually stay involved and a lot of times their families are involved also. Heck, they were singin about the Good Ole Boys in the 70s!!! Come on, you had to laugh at that, that was funny.
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Oct 24 2007, 03:07 PM
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Oct 24 2007, 10:21 AM
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Oct 23 2007, 11:05 PM
I find it interesting and quite funny how the "Kirksey Camp" is squaking about 10K from Granholm...squaking about democrat this and screaming that Maureen is a Democrat from the highest building in Livonia - Quicken Loans.

I do recall that our current Republican-tied mayor (Engelbretsen) tried to appoint Maureen to the Planning Commission not too long ago and the high horse seated Council denied said appointment due to political posturing and pressure from the Michgian Republicans....not because she wasn't extremely qualified but because she wasn't one of "them"'....this type of politiking has gone on long enough. It has become more about their crappy agendas and less about what is best for the city of Livonia....historically the population has been Republican but guess what, going that route hasn't done us any good in the past and it is time for change....change for the better where diversity in politics can be a positive and where the ideas can work for all citizens and what is best for the City of Livonia.


Down with the "good ole boy" front.

Touche, Diva. Let's see them argue that one.

The "good ole boy" front is on both sides of the aisle. Not just Republican. This is politics, that's the way it works. It is unfortunate, but that's how it is.

So, are you condoning the latest Republican "Politics" tactics against Ms. Brosnan.

You are right, this is politics... and we all knew that Jack's "non-partisan" cloak was going to fall to his ankles, but I refuse to bend over and pick up his campaign "soap".

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Oct 24 2007, 03:22 PM
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Oct 24 2007, 03:07 PM
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Oct 24 2007, 10:21 AM
Domestic Diva
Oct 23 2007, 11:05 PM
I find it interesting and quite funny how the "Kirksey Camp" is squaking about 10K from Granholm...squaking about democrat this and screaming that Maureen is a Democrat from the highest building in Livonia - Quicken Loans.

I do recall that our current Republican-tied mayor (Engelbretsen) tried to appoint Maureen to the Planning Commission not too long ago and the high horse seated Council denied said appointment due to political posturing and pressure from the Michgian Republicans....not because she wasn't extremely qualified but because she wasn't one of "them"'....this type of politiking has gone on long enough. It has become more about their crappy agendas and less about what is best for the city of Livonia....historically the population has been Republican but guess what, going that route hasn't done us any good in the past and it is time for change....change for the better where diversity in politics can be a positive and where the ideas can work for all citizens and what is best for the City of Livonia.


Down with the "good ole boy" front.

Touche, Diva. Let's see them argue that one.

The "good ole boy" front is on both sides of the aisle. Not just Republican. This is politics, that's the way it works. It is unfortunate, but that's how it is.

So, are you condoning the latest Republican "Politics" tactics against Ms. Brosnan.

You are right, this is politics... and we all knew that Jack's "non-partisan" cloak was going to fall to his ankles, but I refuse to bend over and pick up his campaign "soap".

Well, that's just gross. As I recall at the last forum, Jack clearly stated that most of his supporters were Republicans and most of Mo's are Dems. I don't believe he stated the election was non-partisan, he stated the position was non-partisan. He was a non-partisan Mayor before, and there is no proof or reason that Maureen won't be calling Jenny every chance she gets.
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there is no proof or reason that Maureen won't be calling Jenny every chance she gets.


Interesting.

Many of the Kirksey supporters on this forum have stated otherwise.

They say it's going to be "Jenny" calling every chance... you know.. for paybacks... :huh:
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