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Jack Kirksey was a Democrat; Do people really know the truth?
Topic Started: Oct 10 2007, 09:14 AM (6,968 Views)
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Sounds like everyone is out to get you Jacky-Boy :ph43r: .

Early dementia

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Never had any accomplishments as Mayor? Has your head been in the sand? He got the fire department life support going, the Rec Center vision and actually coming to fruition was his idea.

Due to all his experience he was able to negotiate with Wayne County and get our road improvement programs expediated.

Did you forget about getting us out of SMART! Livonia sending a couple of million dollars to them every year and only getting $300,000 back. He started the new Livonia Community Transit witch serves Livonia where they really need it, the Seniors who can no longer drive and the disabled to get about and to work. It also gets people from outside of Livonia to work at Livonia businesses. The businesses must appreciate this.

If you really don't have the facts, please check instead of just repeating the same tired info over and over again.

Who cares how many pensions he has? Didn't he earn them by doing the jobs. How many others have more than one pension, I bet lots. Jealousy rears its ugly head.

Just what Ex Vice Pres job did Maureen have? When she came on City Council her story was that she never worked outside of her home. Did PI work from her house. Funny how these stories change. Did you notice that she never tells anyone the name of the company.

About switching parties, what's the big dea? Isn't it the American way to be able to make our own decisions. If he didn't like the ideas of the Democrats it is his and your right to switch.

Did you know Bob Bennett was a republican who turned democrat? Research that and you will learn something new; or is it OK for Brosnan supporters only to switch.



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How is a man who will be 82 years old at the end of his term attract young people to our city? Thats a nice face to put on a city that desperately needs young new families. Why can't Kirksey just pull the strings from behind the curtains as usual, and let us all move on. Why? Because he can't move on. He needs it to live, even if it screws over our city. Believe me, it's already known as the "old peoples" city. Young folks are moving to Plymouth pops! And another old face wont attract anyone. When will you let the next generation take over Jack? When your 90?
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Oct 13 2007, 10:49 AM
How is a man who will be 82 years old at the end of his term attract young people to our city? Thats a nice face to put on a city that desperately needs young new families. Why can't Kirksey just pull the strings from behind the curtains as usual, and let us all move on. Why? Because he can't move on. He needs it to live, even if it screws over our city. Believe me, it's already known as the "old peoples" city. Young folks are moving to Plymouth pops! And another old face wont attract anyone. When will you let the next generation take over Jack? When your 90?

Young people are moving to Plymouth because they have a downtown area. That's what attracts young people.

Who better to bring families to Livonia than someone who has raised their family here, and then their children raise their family here, and then the grandkids live here and begin their families here. Hmmmm. Looks like it keeps families together.
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Oct 13 2007, 03:53 PM
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Oct 13 2007, 10:49 AM
How is a man who will be 82 years old at the end of his term attract young people to our city? Thats a nice face to put on a city that desperately needs young new families. Why can't Kirksey just pull the strings from behind the curtains as usual, and let us all move on. Why? Because he can't move on. He needs it to live, even if it screws over our city. Believe me, it's already known as the "old peoples" city. Young folks are moving to Plymouth pops! And another old face wont attract anyone. When will you let the next generation take over Jack? When your 90?

Young people are moving to Plymouth because they have a downtown area. That's what attracts young people.

Who better to bring families to Livonia than someone who has raised their family here, and then their children raise their family here, and then the grandkids live here and begin their families here. Hmmmm. Looks like it keeps families together.

It sure does, it keeps his families together and in power. I am talking about all families in Livonia. We need a fresh new face for all the families! Thats why I'm voting for Maureen Brosnan. Someone who understands those families because she is one. You can't understand the needs of todays families if you are 78 years old. Things are different now, and you have to live it to know it.
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Kirksey has stabbed Bennett in the back on numerous occasions during the course of their "friendship," probably the most blatant being when Kirksey decided to run against Bennett for mayor 20 years ago.  Kirksey has no concept of the word "friendship"--only the concept of "what can this person do for me?"

You're right, Bennett was a republican for years.  Then along came the extreme conservatives that have taken control of the party in the more recent past, and as I understand it, he decided he could no longer align himself with that party, (not trying to start another topic here, just stating the facts.)  That being said, he has NEVER worn his party affiliation on his sleeve, nor has he ever used it for political gain.

I don't know if you could say that "Bennett has it out for" Kirksey.  I think it's more of a matter of enough is enough.

What planet are you on that it is okay to accuse Kirksey of flip flopping between parties (a lie) and then when it is proven that Bennett is the one that does it, it is okay?

Wow. I think the word I am looking for is hypocrite. Reformer I am sure you can help me with that one.

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I was very disappointed to see one of our mayoral candidates greeting and asking people to vote for him/her at the SHS game last night. While I believe we do have freedom of speech and the right to campaign, I don't think a venue like a HS football game is the place to do it. Just because you can, doesn't mean you should.

That game last night was about the KIDS playing for a championship. It was about the athletes that were honored and their parents that supported them. Bringing politics into it just seemed desperate and opportunistic. There were a number of people in the stands commenting on it and were very disappointed.

That is MHO and neither candidate should have been there.
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Oct 13 2007, 10:49 AM
How is a man who will be 82 years old at the end of his term attract young people to our city? Thats a nice face to put on a city that desperately needs young new families. Why can't Kirksey just pull the strings from behind the curtains as usual, and let us all move on. Why? Because he can't move on. He needs it to live, even if it screws over our city. Believe me, it's already known as the "old peoples" city. Young folks are moving to Plymouth pops! And another old face wont attract anyone. When will you let the next generation take over Jack? When your 90?

This is exactly what bothers me. We already have a reputation for being an "old city" with old houses, old schools, old people -- and now an octogenarian mayor? And one who was already mayor for 8 years? Don't we deserve better than that?

It also disturbs me that MB received so much money from the governor. Our governor is not to popular right now and that could really hurt her.
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Oct 13 2007, 11:01 AM
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Oct 13 2007, 10:49 AM
How is a man who will be 82 years old at the end of his term attract young people to our city? Thats a nice face to put on a city that desperately needs young new families. Why can't Kirksey just pull the strings from behind the curtains as usual, and let us all move on. Why? Because he can't move on. He needs it to live, even if it screws over our city. Believe me, it's already known as the "old peoples" city. Young folks are moving to Plymouth pops! And another old face wont attract anyone. When will you let the next generation take over Jack? When your 90?

Young people are moving to Plymouth because they have a downtown area. That's what attracts young people.

Who better to bring families to Livonia than someone who has raised their family here, and then their children raise their family here, and then the grandkids live here and begin their families here. Hmmmm. Looks like it keeps families together.

It sure does, it keeps his families together and in power. I am talking about all families in Livonia. We need a fresh new face for all the families! Thats why I'm voting for Maureen Brosnan. Someone who understands those families because she is one. You can't understand the needs of todays families if you are 78 years old. Things are different now, and you have to live it to know it.

I am glad that you will at least be voting for someone. Many people don't even bother to do one of the most important things that we as Americans have the privilege to do. I do disagree with you regarding Jack though, he is much more in tune with things of today than you would think.
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Oct 13 2007, 01:20 PM
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Oct 13 2007, 11:01 AM
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Oct 13 2007, 03:53 PM
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Oct 13 2007, 10:49 AM
How is a man who will be 82 years old at the end of his term attract young people to our city? Thats a nice face to put on a city that desperately needs young new families. Why can't Kirksey just pull the strings from behind the curtains as usual, and let us all move on. Why? Because he can't move on. He needs it to live, even if it screws over our city. Believe me, it's already known as the "old peoples" city. Young folks are moving to Plymouth pops! And another old face wont attract anyone. When will you let the next generation take over Jack? When your 90?

Young people are moving to Plymouth because they have a downtown area. That's what attracts young people.

Who better to bring families to Livonia than someone who has raised their family here, and then their children raise their family here, and then the grandkids live here and begin their families here. Hmmmm. Looks like it keeps families together.

It sure does, it keeps his families together and in power. I am talking about all families in Livonia. We need a fresh new face for all the families! Thats why I'm voting for Maureen Brosnan. Someone who understands those families because she is one. You can't understand the needs of todays families if you are 78 years old. Things are different now, and you have to live it to know it.

I am glad that you will at least be voting for someone. Many people don't even bother to do one of the most important things that we as Americans have the privilege to do. I do disagree with you regarding Jack though, he is much more in tune with things of today than you would think.

He wasn't when he got himself involved with the recall and supported the LIe. That in itself drove families out of Livonia, no matter what the ignorate BOE says. And many more continue totry to move, what a shame.
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Oct 13 2007, 01:41 PM
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Oct 13 2007, 01:20 PM
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Oct 13 2007, 11:01 AM
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Oct 13 2007, 03:53 PM
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Oct 13 2007, 10:49 AM
How is a man who will be 82 years old at the end of his term attract young people to our city? Thats a nice face to put on a city that desperately needs young new families. Why can't Kirksey just pull the strings from behind the curtains as usual, and let us all move on. Why? Because he can't move on. He needs it to live, even if it screws over our city. Believe me, it's already known as the "old peoples" city. Young folks are moving to Plymouth pops! And another old face wont attract anyone. When will you let the next generation take over Jack? When your 90?

Young people are moving to Plymouth because they have a downtown area. That's what attracts young people.

Who better to bring families to Livonia than someone who has raised their family here, and then their children raise their family here, and then the grandkids live here and begin their families here. Hmmmm. Looks like it keeps families together.

It sure does, it keeps his families together and in power. I am talking about all families in Livonia. We need a fresh new face for all the families! Thats why I'm voting for Maureen Brosnan. Someone who understands those families because she is one. You can't understand the needs of todays families if you are 78 years old. Things are different now, and you have to live it to know it.

I am glad that you will at least be voting for someone. Many people don't even bother to do one of the most important things that we as Americans have the privilege to do. I do disagree with you regarding Jack though, he is much more in tune with things of today than you would think.

He wasn't when he got himself involved with the recall and supported the LIe. That in itself drove families out of Livonia, no matter what the ignorate BOE says. And many more continue totry to move, what a shame.

Your opinion. Mine is different and that is what makes ours the greatest country in the world. We can co-exist within not only the same country, but the same small town, and not have to have the same beliefs or opinions on any subject especially politics. ;)
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Oct 12 2007, 03:23 PM
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Again, why are you scrutinizing Bennett? He is not running for public office.

I don't understand how you are contributing to this topic with references to a man that was Mayor 10-15 years ago.

Perhaps you'd like to start up a NEW TOPIC about the party affiliations of Jesse Ziegler, Elbert M. Hartom, William W. Brashear, Harvey W. Moelke, Edward H. McNamara, and Robert McCann.

He may not be running for Mayor, but he is trash talking and helping the other candidate, who by the way is not, cannot and never will be a non-partisan Mayor if elected, since JG's PAC gave Brosnan $10k. If Maureen were to go to Quicken and say stay in Livonia we need the jobs, they would call up Jenny and Jenny would be on the phone to Maureen so fast it would make your head spin. She would be reminding her of the $10k plus the $250 the first gentleman gave from his own pocket, and that would be the end of that. Don't even try to pretend that she is non-partisan.

The others that you name, are not contributing to the opponents campaign in time, money or trash talk. That is the reason former Mayor Bennett's political affiliation was brought up in the first place.

I have spent time with Mr. Bennett and have NEVER heard him trash talk about anyone. He has much more class than that from what I have seen. Where did you get your information? I think it may be pure speculation just based on the fact that Mr. Bennett has been seen talking to the "terrorists" that opposed the LI. At any rate, it doesn't appear to be his style at all.

I agree wholeheartly with you on this Vanna. Mr. Bennett is a gentleman in the true sense of the word. The many times I have spoken with him I have always been impressed with how much knowledge and involvment he has with our city. I also have never heard him trash talking anyone, your right, thats just not his style.
To bad he isnt running for mayor, but then again he has more sense than others.
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Again, why are you scrutinizing Bennett? He is not running for public office.

I don't understand how you are contributing to this topic with references to a man that was Mayor 10-15 years ago.

Perhaps you'd like to start up a NEW TOPIC about the party affiliations of Jesse Ziegler, Elbert M. Hartom, William W. Brashear, Harvey W. Moelke, Edward H. McNamara, and Robert McCann.

He may not be running for Mayor, but he is trash talking and helping the other candidate, who by the way is not, cannot and never will be a non-partisan Mayor if elected, since JG's PAC gave Brosnan $10k. If Maureen were to go to Quicken and say stay in Livonia we need the jobs, they would call up Jenny and Jenny would be on the phone to Maureen so fast it would make your head spin. She would be reminding her of the $10k plus the $250 the first gentleman gave from his own pocket, and that would be the end of that. Don't even try to pretend that she is non-partisan.

The others that you name, are not contributing to the opponents campaign in time, money or trash talk. That is the reason former Mayor Bennett's political affiliation was brought up in the first place.

I have spent time with Mr. Bennett and have NEVER heard him trash talk about anyone. He has much more class than that from what I have seen. Where did you get your information? I think it may be pure speculation just based on the fact that Mr. Bennett has been seen talking to the "terrorists" that opposed the LI. At any rate, it doesn't appear to be his style at all.

I agree wholeheartly with you on this Vanna. Mr. Bennett is a gentleman in the true sense of the word. The many times I have spoken with him I have always been impressed with how much knowledge and involment he has with our city. Never have I heard him trash talking anyone, thats just not his style.
To bad he isnt running for mayor, but then again he has more sense than others.

I have to say that I have never heard Jack trash anyone either. One only had to read the poorly composed editorial that was in the paper to see the way Mr. Bennett feels about his "long time friends". Glad I don't call myself his friend, for I might be pulling a knife out of my back when I least expect it.
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Maureen was not even interested in the LI, her kids were in private school. Did she sign a recall petition? How exactly is she going to reach across Farmington Road and work with LPS when she doesn't have nor ever has had children in the public school system. Not that I am saying that those who choose parochial education for religious reasons are wrong, but she doesn't have a good understanding of the public school system. How will she work with LPS to make the system and our city strong for young families? How is she going to draw those families here for our schools when she doesn't even avail herself of the public school system? At least Jack was a teacher, administrator and his children attended public schools.
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Age will be a factor. I think Jack Kirksey's talents would better serve our city in another capacity other than Mayor if he still wants to contribute. Image means a lot to the 20-35 age group. Just the group we are trying to attract. I don't believe Jack Kirksey would project the kind of image it would take to woo younger folks to the city. I'm not questioning whether or not he can do the job, I am just looking at this from a marketing standpoint. And we need some marketing around here now, because Livonia can not live on it's reputation anymore.
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Oct 12 2007, 03:02 PM
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Oct 12 2007, 02:25 PM
Again, why are you scrutinizing Bennett? He is not running for public office.

I don't understand how you are contributing to this topic with references to a man that was Mayor 10-15 years ago.

Perhaps you'd like to start up a NEW TOPIC about the party affiliations of Jesse Ziegler, Elbert M. Hartom, William W. Brashear, Harvey W. Moelke, Edward H. McNamara, and Robert McCann.

He may not be running for Mayor, but he is trash talking and helping the other candidate, who by the way is not, cannot and never will be a non-partisan Mayor if elected, since JG's PAC gave Brosnan $10k. If Maureen were to go to Quicken and say stay in Livonia we need the jobs, they would call up Jenny and Jenny would be on the phone to Maureen so fast it would make your head spin. She would be reminding her of the $10k plus the $250 the first gentleman gave from his own pocket, and that would be the end of that. Don't even try to pretend that she is non-partisan.

The others that you name, are not contributing to the opponents campaign in time, money or trash talk. That is the reason former Mayor Bennett's political affiliation was brought up in the first place.

I have spent time with Mr. Bennett and have NEVER heard him trash talk about anyone. He has much more class than that from what I have seen. Where did you get your information? I think it may be pure speculation just based on the fact that Mr. Bennett has been seen talking to the "terrorists" that opposed the LI. At any rate, it doesn't appear to be his style at all.

I agree wholeheartly with you on this Vanna. Mr. Bennett is a gentleman in the true sense of the word. The many times I have spoken with him I have always been impressed with how much knowledge and involment he has with our city. Never have I heard him trash talking anyone, thats just not his style.
To bad he isnt running for mayor, but then again he has more sense than others.

I have to say that I have never heard Jack trash anyone either. One only had to read the poorly composed editorial that was in the paper to see the way Mr. Bennett feels about his "long time friends". Glad I don't call myself his friend, for I might be pulling a knife out of my back when I least expect it.

Back stabbing. something that all of us who have kids in LPS know about first hand.
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Maureen was not even interested in the LI, her kids were in private school. Did she sign a recall petition? How exactly is she going to reach across Farmington Road and work with  LPS when she doesn't have nor ever has had children in the public school system. Not that I am saying that those who choose parochial education for religious reasons are wrong, but she doesn't have a good understanding of the public school system. How will she work with LPS to make the system and our city strong for young families? How is she going to draw those families here for our schools when she doesn't even avail herself of the public school system? At least Jack was a teacher, administrator and his children attended public schools.

Sorry Rancher, it's time for someone who has a unbiased opinion, not one with financial interests tied with LPS at stake to become our mayor.

Mrs. Brosnan is very intelligent and strong and she can handle this. IMO the only way this community is going to heal is to have someone who can look at issues objectively. Someone who can take an open look at issues without being tainted in their thinking. I do believe that our city cannot afford to have Mr. Kirksey as mayor again. It would only damage and divide this community further. Just because Mrs. Brosnan does not educate her children in LPS doesn't mean she can't do the job. She has a lot at stake to make sure that this issues with LPS and community are resolved. I do believe she is the only one who can achieve this and hopefully revive this community to what it was in the past, a city undivided.
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Maureen was not even interested in the LI, her kids were in private school. Did she sign a recall petition? How exactly is she going to reach across Farmington Road and work with LPS when she doesn't have nor ever has had children in the public school system. Not that I am saying that those who choose parochial education for religious reasons are wrong, but she doesn't have a good understanding of the public school system. How will she work with LPS to make the system and our city strong for young families? How is she going to draw those families here for our schools when she doesn't even avail herself of the public school system? At least Jack was a teacher, administrator and his children attended public schools.

The mayor of Detroit has his sons in private school.

For me this is a non-issue. MB may not use the public schools but JK is not a "customer" of LPS either. If schools close, grades reconfigure, etc... neither candidate is affected.
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When it comes to age, I would like to look back in history. Does anybody remember the outcry when Ronald Reagan was elected President? How could a 69 year old man be President of the United States? I think he did a fine job. He served 8 years as our President, and left at the age of 77. But he was slipping by the end of his second term. Now, obviously, being the Mayor of Livonia is absolutely nothing like being the President of the United States. But Jack Kirksey will be 78, or 79? when he would take office? 83 or 84 at the end of his term? It does raise valid concerns in my opinion. He may be in perfect health, but at his age things can change very quickly as we all know. Who would take office if his health fails. I think these questions are not unreasonable. Thats why I think he should serve the community in some other way.
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Maureen was not even interested in the LI, her kids were in private school. Did she sign a recall petition? How exactly is she going to reach across Farmington Road and work with  LPS when she doesn't have nor ever has had children in the public school system. Not that I am saying that those who choose parochial education for religious reasons are wrong, but she doesn't have a good understanding of the public school system. How will she work with LPS to make the system and our city strong for young families? How is she going to draw those families here for our schools when she doesn't even avail herself of the public school system? At least Jack was a teacher, administrator and his children attended public schools.

The mayor of Detroit has his sons in private school.

For me this is a non-issue. MB may not use the public schools but JK is not a "customer" of LPS either. If schools close, grades reconfigure, etc... neither candidate is affected.

Kwame=Jennifer=Maureen :lol: :lol: :lol:
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