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Steve King 10/8/07; Residency Concerns
Topic Started: Oct 8 2007, 08:23 PM (3,510 Views)
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Nikki
Oct 10 2007, 08:18 AM
As RF (BOE Trustee) stated, 'I want to be a rubber stamper for the district'. Once again truly showing his fiscal responsibility!



Talk about twisting someone's words...


I know....it's hard to believe, but he really did say that. Do we need to did up that quote from the paper?

Yes he did say it, SARCASTICALLY.
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BoaterDan
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Oct 10 2007, 01:04 PM
Nikki
Oct 10 2007, 08:18 AM
As RF (BOE Trustee) stated, 'I want to be a rubber stamper for the district'.  Once again truly showing his fiscal responsibility!  



Talk about twisting someone's words... 


I know....it's hard to believe, but he really did say that. Do we need to did up that quote from the paper?

Yes he did say it, SARCASTICALLY.

As I remember, the full context in the quote was his belief that the administration should be trusted to make sound decisions and his ideal would be to establish them to the point he could just rubber stamp what they brought him.

I didn't see any sarcasm whatsoever in it, where did you?

Since we have no search here, can somebody with it at their fingertips pull back up the full quote?

Oh, here it is:

Freeman took that further. "I would really like to be a rubber stamp school board member because I would hope that my administration would only bring to us those things, those policies that were set forth by the board," he said.

Where is the sarcasm?
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Oct 10 2007, 08:10 AM
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As RF (BOE Trustee) stated, 'I want to be a rubber stamper for the district'.  Once again truly showing his fiscal responsibility!  :blink:


Talk about twisting someone's words... :rolleyes:

Although I did not quote him exactly, I did not TWIST anything. Please explain the difference between these two:

I want to be a rubber stamper for the district.

I would really like to be a rubber stamp school board member....

Here is his actual quote from the newspaper, "I would really like to be a rubber stamp school board member because I would hope that my administration would only bring to us those things, those policies that were set forth by the board,"

These two are not identical, but there is no twisting of what he said. :huh:
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Renee Chesney
Oct 9 2007, 01:54 PM
BoaterDan
Oct 9 2007, 01:38 PM
still concerned mom
Oct 9 2007, 12:32 PM
hopefloats
Oct 9 2007, 10:26 AM
From the Steve's blog...
"Residency is another issue. This district has turned a blind eye to this problem ever since the legacy initiative drove so many students out of our schools. "

I don't see where Steve has indicated that this is because of the LI, rather he is stating "ever since the legacy inititive". I take that to mean the district is turning a blind eye to the problem, so as not to lose any more students (funding).

Yeah, that's a rather simple and straightforward interpretation of what he wrote if you don't start with some bias.

He still could be flat wrong in his assertion, mind you, but it is clearly not what RC is trying to make of it.

Gee Dan what am I trying to make of it?

Gosh, Queen of Hearts, it looks like you're trying to imply Steve is blaming the problem on Randy's LI.
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Oct 10 2007, 06:58 PM
Renee Chesney
Oct 9 2007, 01:54 PM
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Oct 9 2007, 01:38 PM
still concerned mom
Oct 9 2007, 12:32 PM
hopefloats
Oct 9 2007, 10:26 AM
From the Steve's blog...
"Residency is another issue. This district has turned a blind eye to this problem ever since the legacy initiative drove so many students out of our schools. "

I don't see where Steve has indicated that this is because of the LI, rather he is stating "ever since the legacy inititive". I take that to mean the district is turning a blind eye to the problem, so as not to lose any more students (funding).

Yeah, that's a rather simple and straightforward interpretation of what he wrote if you don't start with some bias.

He still could be flat wrong in his assertion, mind you, but it is clearly not what RC is trying to make of it.

Gee Dan what am I trying to make of it?

Gosh, Queen of Hearts, it looks like you're trying to imply Steve is blaming the problem on Randy's LI.

Cause he is? :rolleyes:
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Mrs.M
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A bit off the topic title

I do believe there was a follow up article where Freeman explained what he meant by being a rubber stamp. Something to the effect, he would be confident the board would have decided the matters, because they (the issues) would have been discussed prior to taking them to a vote.

Unfortunately, sometimes you can't take back what you've already said. Media, video, audio can sometimes be your worst enemy.
I'd agree with you, but then we'd both be WRONG.
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Oct 10 2007, 07:42 PM
A bit off the topic title

I do believe there was a follow up article where Freeman explained what he meant by being a rubber stamp. Something to the effect, he would be confident the board would have decided the matters, because they (the issues) would have been discussed prior to taking them to a vote.

Unfortunately, sometimes you can't take back what you've already said. Media, video, audio can sometimes be your worst enemy.

interesting...

LPS emails end with the caveat, "think before you print"
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Oct 10 2007, 07:42 PM
A bit off the topic title

I do believe there was a follow up article where Freeman explained what he meant by being a rubber stamp. Something to the effect, he would be confident the board would have decided the matters, because they (the issues) would have been discussed prior to taking them to a vote.

Yes, and politicians often offer so-called "explanations" that are clearly contrary to the original intent in an effort to get their butt out of a sling.

He very cleary was referring to empowering and trusting the administration, not previous discussions among board members.

"I would really like to be a rubber stamp school board member because I would hope that my administration would only bring to us those things, those policies that were set forth by the board"

If he really did offer that explanation that only makes it worse for me. I really didn't think the original quote was all that damning (in the sense that I wouldn't disagree with him in a certain context he may have meant), but I think trying to cover it up with that kind of silly explanation is.
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LPS does require parents to bring in new documentation when their residency is expired.
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minniemouse
Oct 12 2007, 08:13 PM
LPS does require parents to bring in new documentation when their residency is expired.

Explain this please. If one's "residency" (I assume you are talking about apartment leases) expires in March, how are they required to bring in new documentation? Who keeps track of this and makes sure new documentation is brought in?
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Oct 11 2007, 07:21 AM
Mrs.M
Oct 10 2007, 07:42 PM
A bit off the topic title

I do believe there was a follow up article where Freeman explained what he meant by being a rubber stamp.  Something to the effect, he would be confident the board would have decided the matters, because they (the issues) would have been discussed prior to taking them to a vote.

Unfortunately, sometimes you can't take back what you've already said. Media, video, audio can sometimes be your worst enemy.

interesting...

LPS emails end with the caveat, "think before you print"

I hope you are not implying something sinister here. It is simply for economical reasons that they have added that to all e-mails. Many people find it necessary to print lots of things that could just be saved for future reference or added to a calendar. That is the reason for that caveat. Nothing more, would the sinister thought come from the fact that Mr. King will not respond to e-mails via e-mail, he makes a phone call. That would be because Mr. King doesn't like to put things in writing so that he can continually deny that he did or said what he actually did do and or say.
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So are you saying that any board member that does not reply to email with email is doing so because they do not want anything in print to come back and haunt them? So they phone instead of emailing so they can continually deny that they did or said what they actually did do and or say. :blink:
Or is this only for Mr. King?
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Oct 13 2007, 02:48 PM
So are you saying that any board member that does not reply to email with email is doing so because they do not want anything in print to come back and haunt them? So they phone instead of emailing so they can continually deny that they did or said what they actually did do and or say. :blink:
Or is this only for Mr. King?

It is my own personal experience with Mr. King. I e-mailed him and asked for a response, he did not respond as I have an unlisted phone number. I asked him in person why, he said that he doesn't like e-mailing. I didn't put the sinister spin to this originally, it was put out there by someone else. Yes, I do feel that Mr. King likes to back pedal, as he has done so with me on numerous occasions. My own personal experience nothing else.
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Thats very interesting because myself and many others have experienced the VERY SAME from the other sitting board members. Only Ms. Markarian has ever returned an email. Mr. Bailey did call, the others nada!
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Vanna White
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I sure did send a lot of emails at one point...long before king was even elected. I got a response only from one board member.
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Vanna White
Oct 13 2007, 04:04 PM
I sure did send a lot of emails at one point...long before king was even elected. I got a response only from one board member.

Which one?
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Oct 13 2007, 02:48 PM
So are you saying that any board member that does not reply to email with email is  doing so because they do not want anything in print to come back and haunt them?  So they phone instead of emailing so they can continually deny that they did or said what they actually did do and or say.  :blink: 
Or is this only for Mr. King?


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Vanna White
Oct 13 2007, 04:04 PM
I sure did send a lot of emails at one point...long before king was even elected.  I got a response only from one board member.

Which one?

Bailey
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