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liepa; his actions
Topic Started: May 11 2007, 08:03 AM (3,800 Views)
dontgiveup
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It has been brought to the attention of a few people that Liepa has not asked for but demanded a raise and contract extension before the beginning of July. My question is will the board do it and does he deserve it. I say no way until he gets the LI improved and heals this community. By the way if we are truly 4.5 million in debt then nobody deserves a raise in central office. But I have a feeling the board is going to cave in to Liepa's demands and that will piss me off even more.
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In light of everthing that's happened over the past year, I'd have to agree, to both the raise and a contract extension. Maybe he's looking for a way out - make unreasonable demands that won't be met, and then resign as a result. Any nearby districts lookng for a Superintendant? On the other hand he may think with the incumbents retaining their board seats that his requests will be met without the blink of any eye. When does his contract expire?
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I would hope that the woundn't allow a raise for Dr. Liepa this year. I really don't think that makes sense @ all. We are looking @ major cuts in our budget and programs and he wants a raise? I think all the Central Office employees should have pay freezes until things get better with state funding in Michigan. IMO.
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Not sure when his contract expires but I think he was unsure how many seats his people would keep in the May 8th election and if they lost any seats he wanted his raise and extension before the new board was in place. But with the mess that we have in Livonia now and the discourse of many parents I am even madder that Liepa would do this and in my mind he doesn't deserve a raise. If anything he needs a pay cut and if he doesn't like it he should leave.
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Micki
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I think it is time for this state to start having tuition for public school kids that goes directly to the classroom. I'd say about 2,000 a year per kid with a maximum of 4,000 a year for a family. Although, families that cannot afford to pay should be able to fill out paper work that proves they can't pay it and those children get their education free.

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Micki
May 11 2007, 01:35 PM
I think it is time for this state to start having tuition for public school kids that goes directly to the classroom. I'd say about 2,000 a year per kid with a maximum of 4,000 a year for a family. Although, families that cannot afford to pay should be able to fill out paper work that proves they can't pay it and those children get their education free.

That's when I think you'll start losing a lot of kids to private schools. More than LPS already has.
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Micki
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It might create a sense of competition and that can only be good, in my opinion.
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Livonia Voter he not only wants a raise but "demanded it" Liepa is only out for himself, and in my eyes is he just a greedy SOB.
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dontgiveup
May 11 2007, 07:03 AM
It has been brought to the attention of a few people that Liepa has not asked for but demanded a raise and contract extension before the beginning of July. My question is will the board do it and does he deserve it. I say no way until he gets the LI improved and heals this community. By the way if we are truly 4.5 million in debt then nobody deserves a raise in central office. But I have a feeling the board is going to cave in to Liepa's demands and that will piss me off even more.

Is this factual or a rumor?
I'm interested in knowing how this
information was acquired.
Who would be privy to this with
the exception of board members?

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dontgiveup
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Uncle Betty it is a fact, that is all I can say on this matter I cannot reveal how I know this but it will come out soon.
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dontgiveup
May 12 2007, 08:44 AM
Uncle Betty it is a fact, that is all I can say on this matter I cannot reveal how I know this but it will come out soon.

Any idea if the rest of the cabinet will be getting raises as well?
“Child Abuse” means different things to different people....
----Randy Liepa 8/9/12
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Micki
May 11 2007, 01:35 PM
I think it is time for this state to start having tuition for public school kids that goes directly to the classroom. I'd say about 2,000 a year per kid with a maximum of 4,000 a year for a family. Although, families that cannot afford to pay should be able to fill out paper work that proves they can't pay it and those children get their education free.

I have to disagree. LPS gets plenty of money from the state. It's an issue of how it is spent. Teacher retirement and heathcare will need to be addressed by the state. But the cost of admin and transportation is under their control, and needs to be addressed asap.
“Child Abuse” means different things to different people....
----Randy Liepa 8/9/12
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I hope this forum does not turn into a rumor mill and an opportunity
to insult and talk disrespectful about members of the community as
well as LPS individuals.
It seemed to happen so often on the other forum.
Perhaps this can be a constructive, informative forum this time around.
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dontgiveup
May 12 2007, 08:44 AM
Uncle Betty it is a fact, that is all I can say on this matter I cannot reveal how I know this but it will come out soon.

And when would that be?
What and when is soon?
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Micki
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Ugly Betty, did you find that most of the rumors were true or false? I saw them come to fruition but I do know what you are saying. I don't believe that just because the election is over that all is forgotten or forgiven. My impression is that there will be a lot of cockiness by the present board and that they will be under the microscope for the remainder of their terms. I believe that people will be breathing down their necks for a long time to come. And, I don't believe the FOIA's will stop either. There are 2 seats open next year. Just my impression.

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If you are not involved you are wrong. If you are involved but do not go along with the program you are wrong. You must be assimilated.
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Micki
May 12 2007, 08:45 PM
Ugly Betty, did you find that most of the rumors were true or false? I saw them come to fruition but I do know what you are saying. I don't believe that just because the election is over that all is forgotten or forgiven. My impression is that there will be a lot of cockiness by the present board and that they will be under the microscope for the remainder of their terms. I believe that people will be breathing down their necks for a long time to come. And, I don't believe the FOIA's will stop either. There are 2 seats open next year. Just my impression.

There were so many rumors. Some of them were factual.
Some were based on hearsay and some were downright vicious rumors.
I don't think the entire board is cocky. I think certain individuals are cocky -
old and new members. I agree that the community needs to be
involved and aware of what is happening in LPS. The FIOA's are not a
big deal. Anyone is entitled to request them and get the information desired.
However, I think some will find it very difficult to move on and continue to hold a lot
of resentment and therein will lie the cocky insults which will only impede
any positive move in the right direction.
That, too, is just my impression.
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May 12 2007, 09:22 PM
Micki
May 12 2007, 08:45 PM
Ugly Betty, did you find that most of the rumors were true or false?  I saw them come to fruition but I do know what you are saying.  I don't believe that just because the election is over that all is forgotten or forgiven.  My impression is that there will be a lot of cockiness by the present board and that they will be under the microscope for the remainder of their terms.  I believe that people will be breathing down their necks for a long time to come.  And, I don't believe the FOIA's will stop either.  There are 2 seats open next year.  Just my impression.

There were so many rumors. Some of them were factual.
Some were based on hearsay and some were downright vicious rumors.
I don't think the entire board is cocky. I think certain individuals are cocky -
old and new members. I agree that the community needs to be
involved and aware of what is happening in LPS. The FIOA's are not a
big deal. Anyone is entitled to request them and get the information desired.
However, I think some will find it very difficult to move on and continue to hold a lot
of resentment and therein will lie the cocky insults which will only impede
any positive move in the right direction.
That, too, is just my impression.

What is the "right" direction?
“Child Abuse” means different things to different people....
----Randy Liepa 8/9/12
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Micki
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UglyBetty
May 12 2007, 09:22 PM
Micki
May 12 2007, 08:45 PM
Ugly Betty, did you find that most of the rumors were true or false?  I saw them come to fruition but I do know what you are saying.  I don't believe that just because the election is over that all is forgotten or forgiven.  My impression is that there will be a lot of cockiness by the present board and that they will be under the microscope for the remainder of their terms.  I believe that people will be breathing down their necks for a long time to come.  And, I don't believe the FOIA's will stop either.  There are 2 seats open next year.  Just my impression.

There were so many rumors. Some of them were factual.
Some were based on hearsay and some were downright vicious rumors.
I don't think the entire board is cocky. I think certain individuals are cocky -
old and new members. I agree that the community needs to be
involved and aware of what is happening in LPS. The FIOA's are not a
big deal. Anyone is entitled to request them and get the information desired.
However, I think some will find it very difficult to move on and continue to hold a lot
of resentment and therein will lie the cocky insults which will only impede
any positive move in the right direction.
That, too, is just my impression.

There will definitely be cockiness on both sides at some point under your definition. I also believe a downfall of this election is that people just "won't care" anymore. Three houses went up for sale this week on my block. I didn't even know they were moving. Guess why?

I also think people will stop coming to this site from both sides. Primarily, because people will be washing their hands of this district and they will either explore other options for their families or they are just too tired to fight anymore. Another reason will be that there will be such a sense of "opposers are just malcontents and everything they say is wrong", that the haughtiness will impeded successful dialogue because they will know they don't need to discourse. Kind of like on Survivor. When the winners are in control they just take down the others without a care in the world. They don't consult them. They don't care about their opinion or their thoughts. If you watch Survivor, I am sure you understand my analogy. It will get worse before it gets better and no amount of "the politics are over, move on", is going to change that. Even though to an extent, it is true. We fought the GOOD fight and lost. So now we decide. Either throw in the towel, fight or assimilate. That is my prediction.
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