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Lion and Siberian tiger size comparison!!!
Topic Started: May 12 2007, 10:00 PM (22,146 Views)
Crash-Cheetah
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how would pictures taken from a different distance make any difference?


Your kidding right? A picture taken farther ways will look smaller. Up close larger. Those photos could be zoomed and cropped for all you know.
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Am i kidding? Are you?

If both pics are scaled to the proper sizes (or the same size), wouldn`t the distances the pictures were taken at make little difference? I was the one who scaled the pictures, to the sizes of the average lion and tiger. For example, you can take two pictures of me...one from 5 ft away, and one from 10. If i scale the second picture up to the size of the first, wouldn`t the distances the pics were taken at then make no difference?
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fair comparison was bigcat that live and adapted in the same environment. Asiatic Lion and Bengal tiger. who's the bigger by nature
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Firestone


The largest African male lion and largest Amur and Bengal male tiger size comparison is likened to this example.

You have a FIRST guy who is 6'5 weighing over 300 pounds, with 26 inch biceps and 58 inch chest.
Then you have a SECOND guy who is 6 foot even weighing over 330 pounds with 20 inch biceps and 52 inch chest.

Who's BIGGER ?

The FIRST guy is BIGGER than the SECOND guy. The SECOND guy is HEAVIER than the FIRST guy.

An African male lion is like the FIRST guy, Amur and Bengal male tigers are like the SECOND guy.

The African male lion is BIGGER than Amur and Bengal male tigers. Amur and Bengal male tigers are HEAVIER than the male African lion.
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Prime


XD XD I couldent resist.. XD XD
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Well it look's like it's over for the tiger fanatic's of repeating there acciunt's 400 time's in the same list, XD XD Hey Bold champ, Dalen an Leofwin just like I promised I put the account's in {CHRONILOGICAL ORDER!} from the most recent on the top to the oldest going down the list, so by doing it in chronilogical order, what ever is repeated will be flush next to each other, so if you repeated an account you CANT HIDE IT! XD XD XD
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So I found a little more link's that I was missing to some account's an will need your help guy's, to tie them in the account, which is only a few 4 or 5 or so, but they have there source's as in date's an location's so a old new's paper archive site should find it no problem, so with out further a due... the List that will end the debate in who has more account's our 100 or there 30 here we go>>>
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#1.--{2011}-- two teen lions killed a adult male Bengal tiger in an
enclosure.(Video)- Youtube-
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TNlRBGq3rmk
The story was one of the worker’s were on break, an went down the road to a store taking the key’s to the gate an car they usually break up minor scruffle’s with, , when two… 1.5 year old boy cub’s chased around an harrased a adult male bengal tiger, until he colapsed from exaustion,
http://i.imgur.com/rUyZN.jpg
He tried despertaly to protect himself,…
http://i.imgur.com/8zr8Q.jpg
but the two 1.5 year old brother’s showed no mercy, the tiger roared with hurendous moan’s in agony, after on looker’s shouted for the lion’s to stop shortly after one got a hold of his throat an took his life…
http://i.imgur.com/sApCb.jpg
#2.--{2008}-- Cheongi the lion kills siberian tigress name Hobi jeonju zoo. http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/166/748tb0.jpg/
Here’s hobi
http://briandeutsch.blogspot.com/2008/12/lion-kills-tiger-at-jeonju-zoo.html
An this is Hobi after the incident with cheongi, the not so friendly lion…
http://www.koreatimes.co.kr/www/news/nation/2008/12/117_36355.html
#3.--{2006}-- lion kill’s huge siberian white tigress in leberic and czech zoo. There was only one bite mark on Isabella’s throat an no other wound’s concluding even though 2 lion’s occupied the same encloser with isbella the tiger, only one lion attacked isabella.
http://www.usatoday.com/news/offbeat/2009-11-19-Czech-Republic_N.htm
#4.--{2004}--A lion slaps on the face of a tiger as they fight for the control of a pool at a zoo in Nanjing, east Chinas Jiangsu province July 18, 2004. The lion finally occupied the cool water of the pool in the summer heat wave after it defeated its challenger in two minutes."
~Peoples Daily Online
http://i1119.photobucket.com/albums/k625/Leofwin/liontigeraccount31.jpg?t=1312670134
#5.--{1985}-- Alan gold’s circus lion kill’s male tigerAlan Gold also had a mixed group. In 1985, a free for all erupted. He lost two lions and one tiger. The lions were killed by other lions. The tiger was killed by a lion. Gold, regarding the way both cats fight, compared to Beatty. He stated lions fight in a calculated way, where as tigers, in a free for all, are nervous and vulnarable. Source=Tiger fan named Peter Yuku.com
#6,--{1981}-- Martin. L Albert witnessed a lion kill a siberian tiger.(Documentary)
http://i277.photobucket.com/albums/kk45/brentlion_2008/brentonlion/lionkillstigerinafight.jpg
#7. --{1980}--Dave hoover tiger’{s} killed by lion’s
http://i853.photobucket.com/albums/ab95/boldchamp1/boldchamp/Hooverlionsvstigers2.jpg
#8, --{1977}--TIGER; THE STORY OF THE INDIAN TIGER 1977 By well known Indian Zologist Kailash Sankhala. Saw 3 accasion’s lion’s defeated tigers in the wild.
http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/51-n1cZ9FyL._SL500_AA300_.jpg
#9. --{1976}--Beatty-cole lion’s kill 2 tiger’s
http://i853.photobucket.com/albums/ab95/boldchamp1/boldchamp/tamerdaveHoover.jpg
#10.--{1970}--pittsburgh Press lion kill’s male tiger in india.
#11.--{1963}--lion kills tiger O. Breland, 1963
#12.—{1960}-- Korea pit fights Male lions won majority of all fights refferrenced by zoo keeper lee young phil.(Hidden news Report)
http://animal-tigers.blogspot.com/2011/02/dominated-by-black-tigers-in-everland.html
lee young phil statement said, there were a few tiger and lion fight’s staged an recorded, and only one that the female tigris fought the lioness was aired in the colloection of animal fight’s… with harsh wording’s of the korean narrirator saying, the lioness was no match for there symbol of power, yet it was a 50/50 fight having the tiger the one bleeding to death. Also saying they were edited an spliced in favor of the tiger, which if there were more than a few male fight’s recorded, why werent they ever shown. It is highly concluded the male lion’s won all, an the video’s were destroyed due to cultrual idlelization’s of the korean’s. Here’s the other alibi to that same fight here…
http://www.atimes.com/atimes/Korea/HA28Dg01.html
#13.—{1956}--Male tiger killed by a lion (Tri-City Herald, 1956 ,
#14.—{1955}-- oct, 6 Naturual history society, Page 465-468, 3 separate
accounts lion won all 3.(Documentary)
#15.--{1954}-- Lion kills tiger with one blow in Boltimore zoo.(Documentary)
#16. –{1951}--Lion kills siberian tiger: in a circus act (February 1951. Detroit).
#17. –1951}--Lioness kills siberian tiger: Happened in a zoo (September 1951. Madras Zoological Gardens).
http://i1119.photobucket.com/albums/k625/Leofwin/liontigeraccount31.jpg?t=1312670134
http://animalsversesanimals.yuku.com/sreply/8061/t/Some-new-accounts-just-for-fun-.html
#18.—{1949}--Genius books/Animal facts, Lion named Nero killed Tim the tiger in
an Australian zoo – Documentary.
http://i277.photobucket.com/albums/kk45/brentlion_2008/brentonlion/lionkillstigeratzoo.jpg
http://trove.nla.gov.au/ndp/del/article/52688717?searchTerm=
#19.--{1949}-- in fitchburg a lion kill’s Roger the male siberian tiger in circus act. 500 Pound Circus Lion Arrives In Fitchburg Today After Killing Huge Tiger. The incident, as related today by the trainer of "cats," who has been engaged in this daring business for 29 years or since he was nine years of age took place before the end of the act.The prince, who boasts of partial American parentage, his mother being a native of the United States and his father a Spaniard, said that the battle lasted but five or six minutes.”
Fitchburg, Mass, Friday, June 3, 1949 (New’s article)
#20.--{1940}--Bob greene speak’s of an old video of local’s of india having a pit fight with a lion fighting a tiger, and the lion won, due to his mane…

#21--{1936}-- Agartala zoo in bengal, a lion kills a male tiger.
When a connecting door between two cages was left open at Agartala, Bengal, by a forgetful zoo attendant, a very large tiger charged its neighbor, a lion. The fight was ferocious, but did not last long, the lion literally tearing the tiger to pieces.”
(Local news report)
#22.--{1935}-- Sikestonians saw a lion kill a siberian tiger in a local town circus
act.(Documentary)
#23.--{1935}-- In the town Bedford, Masachusetts a zoo lost a tiger to a
lion. “A lion and a tiger battled to the death here. The lion won. When Biller Brothers Circus moved on to its next stop, it left behind the carcass of the loser, a tiger weighing a little over a quarter of a ton.”
~Guinness book of animal fact and feat
#24.--{1935}-- Male lion kills male tiger, The Hammond Times, 1935
#25.--{1934}--lion kills male tiger Logansport Press, November 15., 1934
http://i1119.photobucket.com/albums/k625/Leofwin/lionvstigeraccount2.jpg
#26 --{1933}--Thrill’s at Galore lion kills tiger
http://i1119.photobucket.com/albums/k625/Leofwin/liontigeraccount5.jpg?t=1312674003
#27.--{1933}—possibly 3rd tiger killed in Clyde beatty’s circus act Ceasar the lion kill’s bobby the tiger.
“Down sprang Caesar, determined to seize the offensive, but before he could do so, Bobby had battled his way through Caesar's paws, grabbed his mane so stubbornly that he couldn't move. For the next couple of minutes each struggled and strained for an advantage, but Bobby's hold was so tenacious that they only succeeded in twisting a little. With the cameras continuing to grind and getting nothing but a little harmless tug of war… Energy spent, the exhausted Bobby tried to roll away from Caesar, but Caesar's hold now was as firm as Bobby's which had been on his mane. Seeing this turn in affairs, I dashed into the cage. Already Caesar's jaws had crunched Bobby's neck and when I got there Caesar was shaking Bobby's limp, bloody head and throat from side to side. Bobby's eyes were turning starey. He was dead and it was only two minutes since I was keenly sorry that I had done it, but in thinking it over I became convinced that my part had been negligible. The lion is frequently the superior; he doubtless would have been the winner in this case no matter what I had done.”
#28.-–{1933}--2 tigers died, In the the big cage tiger from a lion-(Video)
http://images.yuku.com.s3.amazonaws.com/image/gif/f4826dc5d50606ed235b18234caf25ad70d5e4a2_r.jpg
which clyde beatty is talking about lion’s in general… when they are intermidiate family they will gang up on other lions an or tiger’s, other than that, lion’s will not help another lion, and are exellent free for all fighter’s an all clyde beatty’s fight’s for the movie was one on one by properganda’s of the director of the movie.
#29.—{1933}---Book Publisher Centry cole Lion kills Puna the male tiger
http://i277.photobucket.com/albums/kk45/brentlion_2008/brentonlion/Image-80.jpg
http://i277.photobucket.com/albums/kk45/brentlion_2008/brentonlion/Image-81.jpg
#30.--{1930}--Gir foreset 3 tigers vs 3 lions, all lions won an lion #2 mauled the male tiger. (Video) -Youtube-
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jBdpiIxMnMM
http://newspaperarchive.com/danville-bee/1935-09-16/
#31.—{1929}--,lion kills male tiger Syracuse Herald, 1929
http://newspaperarchive.com/syracuse-herald/1929-09-15/page-84/
#32.--{1928}--lion kills three tiger’s Source: Altoona Mirror, September 27., 1928
http://i1119.photobucket.com/albums/k625/Leofwin/lionvstigeraccount4.jpg
#33.--{1925}-- Rudolf kludsky had said several lions had killed his tiger’s.Several mean’s more than 4= A few years later, Rudolf Kludsky again decided to train a mixed group (22 animals). Mistake. It took three months to get them used to each other. But they were not yet ready to perform. During one of the first shows, the nervous and inexperienced animals engaged in a free for all. One tiger was killed by a lion. Source=Tiger fan named Peter Yuku.com
1925, Rudolf Kludsky trains this mixed group of lions and tigers in the stadium or Turin. In the same year each group of species had to be separated as the lions oftentimes attacked the tiger and even killed several specimens.
http://squaresolid.tumblr.com/
#34.--{1924}-- lion kills tiger "The Jungle behind Bars" by Courtney Ryley Cooper
http://i1119.photobucket.com/albums/k625/Leofwin/liontigeraccount10.jpg
#35.--{1923.}--Jam sahib well respected of 40 year’s of zoology of lion’s and tiger’s in india has wittnessed 3 fights having all lion defeat tiger’s in his book here…
http://shared.knights.co.uk/albums/KSAMar12/images/lot0706.jpg
Also in his summary, when he exploited keshari singh he point’s them out again here…
http://i917.photobucket.com/albums/ad19/JinenFordragon/pagetwoju9.jpg
#36.--{1921}--The lion also is protected around the neck by the heavy mane, which is an advantage. There is one instance I remember where a full grown lion and very large tiger engaged in combat, by unforeseen chance of course. It was when the John O’ Brien Show had its winter quarters in Philadelphia and I was connected with it. “A lion and a tiger were in a compartment cage, with a partition between. In some manner this partition was battered down in the night and the two big fellow’s got together. They had probably been issuing challenges to each other and promising what they would do to one another if the chance came. When morning arrived we found the two in the lion’s cage, the tiger dead and the lion all chew and clawed to pieces, but still full of fight.”
~George Conklln, “Adventures With a Circus”
http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/510U7xDeJ3L._SL500_AA300_.jpg
#37--{1906}—Sir Thomas lawarence letter bag’sA lion kills a bear and tiger in 1 fight.
http://i277.photobucket.com/albums/kk45/brentlion_2008/brentonlion/books_003-25.png
#38.–{1903}--lion kills tiger ~Coventry Evening Telegraph, 25. of september 1903
http://i1119.photobucket.com/albums/k625/Leofwin/lionvstigeraccount1.jpg
#39.–{1902}--Lion kills male tiger, Fort Wayne, 1902
NEW YORK. Nov. 2. -Tradition that the tiger is a better animal then the lion in a fight has been disproved as Sr. Nicholas Garden, where one of the biggest striped denizens of the Bengal jungles is suffering from rips and tears inflicted upon him by one of the late king of the South Africa forests. The press agent did not give this story out. Probably he would lose his job if he had, for Bostock is careful to suppress any news tending to show that his animals ever exhibit sanguinary instincts when in the arena. The two big cats in question were brought together several days ago to become familiarized with each other for purposes of a contemplated act in the show ring. The tiger walked nervously up to the lion and began rubbing his nose over the latter's haunches. A low growl was the response. But when the tiger inserted his teeth in the lion's mane, Leo uttered a roar, unmasked his ivories and crouched. The tiger retreated a few feet and then sprang high in the air, intending to come down on the lion. But Leo deftly side-stepped and when the tiger alighted he grabbed it by the head. A twisting of the teeth and a large section of the tiger's face, including one eye, was gone. The trainers and attendants now tried to separate the beasts, which for several minutes rolled over and over each other, snarling, roaring, biting and scratching. Finally they were separated. The tiger, mutilated and bleeding, cowered in a corner, while the lion was defiant in another.

FORT WAYNE MORNING JOURNAL GAZETTE, MONDAY, NOVEMBER 3, 1902.
#40.--{1899}-- Lion kills another tiger source: The Herald
http://paperspast.natlib.govt.nz/cgi-bin/paperspast?a=d&d=TH18991223.2.87
.A Lioness slew a male Bengal Tiger (Ward, Lock, Bowden, 1896 )
#41.--{1896}--Calcutta zooligical garden’s a lioness kills a adult male tiger (New’s article)
Grey River Argus, Volume LVII, Issue 9397, 23 March 1896, Page 4
http://i277.photobucket.com/albums/kk45/brentlion_2008/brentonlion/lionessfightswithatiger.jpg
http://i277.photobucket.com/albums/kk45/brentlion_2008/brentonlion/lionessdefeatstiger.jpg
#42.--{1882}--Another lion kills male tiger(Fort Wayne Gazette, 1882
#43.--{1858}-- M. Herbert’s mengerine lion kills male royal bengal tiger. (New’s article)
http://i853.photobucket.com/albums/ab95/boldchamp1/boldchamp/Lionkillstiger-1.jpg
#44.–{1851}--, In the “Landshuter Zeitung” a lion killed a tiger witnessed by local native’s of India an German Zoologist’s.
~(German new’s atricle)
http://animalsversesanimals.yuku.com/topic/2388/Velar-Male-Lion-vs-Royal-Bengal-Tiger-valauble-rare-account-
#45.--{1834}--.Adult male tiger was killed by a male lion , F. Jefferies, 1834
http://newspaperarchive.com/danville-bee/1935-09-16/
#46.--{1834}-- diary of a literature lion defeat’s tiger.
http://i277.photobucket.com/albums/kk45/brentlion_2008/liondefeatstiger.png
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#47.{ROMAN ARENA ERA}lion kills tiger in Roman arena
http://i853.photobucket.com/albums/ab95/boldchamp1/boldchamp/books-2.png
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#48. A lion kills a tiger in a pit fight on a palace compound of an indian maharajah prince in front of thousand’s this is not the gir fight.
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It’s on this site called tiger territory, on lairweb .com here…
http://www.lairweb.org.nz/tiger/
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#49. But to get back to the lions and tigers, apparently it is a very hard thing to put lions and tigers together. I read that scientists say that lions have the strongest forelegs of the big cats, and they have a knack to being more ferocious. Even though tigers are heavier and longer, it's ferocity that determines a winner. Lions have all the equipment of a fighter with huge forelegs, the mane, and the stocky body. Because of the mane the male lion is a poor predator. He however has a fierce desire to defend his territory. They have been known to kill or drive off rhinos. The tiger is nervous around a male lion and cat trainers have said that this has caused problems in zoos and circuses.
The same trainers have mostly said that the male lion appears to have no fear of the tiger even in a large group of tigers. The big cat trainer Clyde Beatty lost 12 tigers to lions and didn't lose a single lion. He once had a tiger and lion fighting in a live performance and tried to stop it he couldn't and the lion went on to maul the tiger to death in front of all these people. He also had a lion he called Sultan the First and he beat ever male tiger he ever faced. There are 3 films that have been made about fights between a male lion and male tiger and in all three the lion won. 'Lion-Tiger Fight', 1930's, Castle Films (16 mm) is a short documentary about a fight between a lion and a tiger which occurred during an expedition to capture some tigers in the Gir region of India (The only place where you can find lions and tigers living together).
http://arlene-wright-correll.wrytestuff.com/swa642954-Finding-Our-Grandfather-In-The-Attic.htm
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#50. Mr F.c owner of bowstock had a lion kill a male tiger before his act.
(New’s article)
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{What ever weight’s the tiger has reach so can the lion}
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408kg=900 pound lion named Ali owned by Charle’s mason of king’sbridge
http://www.impeyan.net/default.asp?iId=KMFIH
two…900 pound lions
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UmUtjFBx6eM
- 900 pound lion
http://news.google.com/newspapers?nid=1755&dat=19630112&id=l9YeAAAAIBAJ&sjid=n2UEAAAAIBAJ&pg=4456,2398849
800 pound lion named ponto fight’s off 2 tiger’s
http://newspaperarchive.com/oakland-tribune/1959-03-27/
826 pound lion named simba
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http://junglephotos.com/africa/afanimals/mammals/lionnathist.shtml
800 pound lion named mubasa
http://www.kansastravel.org/britspaughzoo.htm
http://www.thirdage.com/humor/800-pound-lion-receives-root-canal-video
800 pound lion attack’s tarzan
http://www.tzproductions.com/index.php/history
2… 800 pound lion’s 1 named Prince an 1 named clarence
http://mfinley.com/tumor/bt-bwana-mike.htm
800 pound lion owner ruthledge
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900 pound lion owned by Peter jackson
http://desmond.imageshack.us/Himg139/scaled.php?server=139&filename=900lblionestimatedoz7.jpg&res=landing
800 pound lion in circus
Trump: The Art Of The Deal
But Irving was very much like a lion tamer. You've seen these guys, maybe I50
pounds, who walk blithely into a cage where there's a magnificent 800~pound lion
http://books.google.com/books?id=Ye6e_VxM00kC&pg=PA88&lpg=PA88&dq=800+pound++lion&source=bl&ots=6XuRpqILHh&sig=FPFItABXapR4OZWM76XTRCImwz0&hl=en&sa=X&ei=mHwGUICmL-Pg2gWQxMXTBQ&ved=0CFcQ6AEwCQ
800 pound lion named woody
http://books.google.com/books?id=9MIDKlXj60AC&pg=PA169&lpg=PA169&dq=800+pound++lion&source=bl&ots=6qj9mAg4nV&sig=oYDzO5qhhaADM55op3qdUPe0FLc&hl=en&sa=X&ei=VX0GUJC2Leqi2gXO4MmPBQ&ved=0CCQQ6AEwADgK
CBS News investigative correspondent Armen Keteyian speaks about the debate and what it was like doing an interview within feet of a 900-pound lion.
http://www.metrowestdailynews.com/news/x364597531/Morning-Jolt-Haunted-home-for-seniors
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this are real facts that the lion wins allmoast every fight against a tiger
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