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| necramericanomicon | May 26 2008, 12:49 PM Post #6 |
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out of all the text responses on youtube to that video, there was one other poster who mentioned that it was the black sun of the nazi thule group (that educated hitler in the dark occult arts)...the rest of them nattered on about who was grunge and who wasn't, and so on (wasn't "grunge" a term foisted on certain music by the music industry itself? for some groups who came from seattle that one poster wrote that you had better be a freemason if you wanted to make it in rock the video was directed by a rocker from a different group...so the soundgardeners might not even have had anything to do with its content... the lead singer is part jewish part irish and thayil on guitar is indian...is that why they were making a video about quasi-nazi style mind kontrol of a technological nature, being applied by a seemingly white aryan couple...i mean, hitler was featured in some of the scenes as "enemy" and "father"...nixon made it as an "enemy" but didn't cut it as "father" the song was one of the few that wasn't written by these two... they were one of my favorite groups...not that i know squat about music or instruments... the only reason i brought this up was to try and get an understanding of what was going on...it was obviously and overtly about mind control...the symbolism was meaningful to whoever had put this video together, and seemed to correlate with what i have been reading about and trying to understand for years...just wanted a discussion... |
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| meatbox | May 26 2008, 07:31 PM Post #7 |
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I remember reading the black sun was inside the earth and is ( according to Nazi lore) the Vril force used long ago by early people. I remember reading another source (not Nazi lore although it may have its orgin in its roots ) that there is a sun (it didn't say the color, it may have) and its called (the place any way) Agartha (sp) or Sharmballa with a ruler named Sanat Kumara ( seems like Satan. One Holy Text states he like roaming on the Earth and inside of it too. So, somethings in it that he likes or dislikes and can't help to go there). I believe (I maybe mistaken) that Blavatsky mentions it via Master DK-Argartha or Shamballa with its ruler that is. Oh wait, Hitler studied her works. Beings are said to be down there (some say grey aliens, some say the voodoo lao dieties hangout down there and acess its space under the oceans. Some believe the Titans are under there waiting to be released. Some say the fallen angels which did not keep their proper domain are there in chains inside blackness of darkness. To bring the black sun back into the post, I believe its down there masquarading as magma causing the plastic like athenosphere (lower mantle) to move, ultimately causing forces to shape the lithosphere, Earth's crust (volcanoes erupting, earthquakes, glacial movements etc.) I'm not sure the color of the fire or plasma source ( scientists state plasma is so hot it cannot exist on the planet, but its form is in stars like our sun and lightning). Those are the only forms I am aware of. Some fires are cool like blue, orange etc. Then there are different colors of stars such as yellow stars, blue stars, and white stars, etc. So, why not a black sun? It is possible assuming plasma can indeed exist on the Earth or maybe it's made of another entirely different type of matter like antimatter in a different state. Water exists in different states of matter, solid, liquid,and gas. Im just saying it maybe possible there is a significant something inside the Earth that very well may be the black sun or Vril force. It maybe beings under our crust survivng off of its energy.. Im pursuaded it is a prison in the form of hell that enlarges herself and is dark or black . It is a fire or super heated matter like plasma or is plasma and the beings in it (souls too) are not happy and will lie to bring us there. |
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| necramericanomicon | May 26 2008, 10:28 PM Post #8 |
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i posted this a while back here... ufo boys from brazil: nazi "vril levitation platforms" fly by magnetism http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tI4v-xCvaZI&feature=related lecturer winters describes how nazi engineers built levitation ships that are now made in factories in brazil and neu schwabenland, antartica original models were powered by mercedes truck engines...winters says that u s military is playing catch-up to this technology...also shows photos of them turning on optical shields which render them invisible to observers on ----- wio thinks billy meier is the genuine article...i would like to believe so, except that his pleiadian pals' ships look much the same as the latest model of nazi vril ships also, the pleiadians said that there were way too many humans for the earth to sustain...their planet in the pleiadian system had only 400,000,000...the georgia guidestones have chiseled into them the guide rule that mankind should be reduced to no more than 500,000,000 from its present levels of 6 to 7 billion...a huge reduction in numbers (yoko ono has mentioned her deep and abiding love for the georgia guidestones...considering what happened to john lennon after she declared her deep and abiding love for him, this gives one cause for concern) semjase, the beautiful lady pilot who befriended him looked pretty much european german aryan or maybe polish, czech...supposedly she and her brunette companion were said to be dancers in dean martin's vegas casino show in 1968 dean martin starred in a number of movies as secret agent matt helm...in "the ambushers" Plot: "A government space saucer is hijacked mid-flight by a powerful laser beam under the control of Jose Ortega, who then proceeds to rape the female pilot, Sheila Sommars. ICE sends agent Matt Helm to Acapulco with Sheila to recover the saucer, under the guise of Matt taking fashion photographs of beautiful models. Matt is temporarily side-tracked, falling prey to the seductive charms of enemy agent Franceca Madeiros." the "government space saucer", again, is the spitting image of the nazi vril design in "the ambushers", only women could pilot the space saucers...men died from radiation poisoning...maybe this explains why billy meier's pleiadian contacts were women ufos supposedly utilize the inner hollow earth for bases...some of the entrances are at the poles...didn't admiral byrd fly a plane into one of the artic entrances, and said there were green grasslands with warm climates other saucers have been seen entering volcanoes during their eruptive phases...including ones in mexico meier's organization worked with the cia...they said it kept things from getting too complicated and out of control (?!) and george adamsky has been outed as having been visited by nazis in vril craft...waiting for orlon the lufotwaffe ubersturmbahnfuhrer instead of orlon the venusian scout craft commander...adamsky worked with the cia, even if he was not cia himself ===== http://www.shamballaschool.org/Shamballa/M...20Shamballa.htm Jocelyn Godwin, in Arktos, The Polar Myth in Science, Symbolism and Nazi Survival (1993), identified agni power with vril. Vril is the psychokinetic power protected by the inhabitants of Thule, which the Nazis tried to obtain for helping to strengthen their Aryan superrace. Similar to Bailey's claims of the connection between Hitler and the Shambhala Force, several postwar studies on Nazism and the Occult have asserted that the Nazis sent expeditions to Tibet to seek the help of the forces of Shambhala and Agharti to carry out their Master Plan. Bailey, however, only mentioned Shambhala in this connection and said nothing about Agharti. These accounts, on the other hand, purport that the masters of Shambhala refused to assist the Nazi expeditions, but the adepts of Agharti agreed and returned with them to Germany. Moreover, they attribute the Nazi search for occult support in Tibet to the beliefs of Karl Haushofer and the Thule Society. Haushofer was the founder of the Vril Society in association with the Thule Society and was a major influence on Hitler's occult thinking. The Thule and Vril Societies combined beliefs from various sources After a world cataclysm, Agharti sank beneath the earth. This accords with Ossendowski's account. The Aryans then split into two groups. One went south and founded a secret center of learning beneath the Himalayas, also called Agharti. There, they preserved the teachings of virtue and of vril. The other Aryan group tried to return to Hyperborea-Thule, but founded instead Shambhala, a city of violence, evil, and materialism. Agharti was the holder of the right-hand path and positive vril, while Shambhala was the keeper of the degenerate left-hand path and negative energy. The division of right-hand and left-hand paths had appeared already in Blavatsky's The Secret Doctrine. There, she wrote that at the time of the Atlanteans, humanity branched into right- and left-hand paths of knowledge, which became the germs of white and black magic. She did not associate the two paths, however, with Agharti and Shambhala. In fact, she did not mention Agharti at all in her writings. The terms right- and left-hand paths derive from a division within Hindu tantra. Early Western writers often characterized left-hand tantra as a degenerate form and misidentified it with Tibetan Buddhism and its teachings of anuttarayoga tantra. According to Pauwels and Bergier, the Thule Society sought to contact and make a pact with Shambhala, but only Agharti agreed to offer help. By 1926, the French authors explained, there were already colonies of Hindus and Tibetans in Munich and Berlin, called the Society of Green Men, in astral connection with the Green Dragon Society in Japan. Membership in the latter society required ritual Japanese suicide (Jap. hara-kiri, seppuku) if one lost one's honor. Haushofer had purportedly joined the society during his early years in Japan. The leader of the Society of Green Men was a Tibetan monk, known as "the man with green gloves," who supposedly visited Hitler frequently and held the keys of Agharti. Expeditions to Tibet followed annually, from 1926 to 1943. When the Russians entered Berlin at the end of the war, they found nearly a thousand corpses of soldiers of the Himalayan race, dressed in Nazi uniforms but without identification papers, who had committed suicide. Haushofer himself committed hara-kiri before he could be tried at Nürenberg in 1946. In 1936, Theodor Illion, a German explorer who traveled in Tibet in the early 1930s, published Rätselhaftes Tibet (In Secret Tibet) under the pseudonym Theodor Burang. In it, he too described supernatural powers that Tibetan adepts possessed. In his second book, Finsternis über Tibet (Darkness over Tibet) (1937), he described his being led to an underground city in the "Valley of Mystery," where an "Occult Fraternity" channeled spiritual energy to gain power. Its ruler was the sorcerer Prince Mani Rimpotsche. Although this "Prince of Light" pretended to be a benevolent ruler, he actually was the head of a malevolent cult, a "Prince of Darkness." Illion never mentioned Shambhala, but his popular works would also have added weight to the Nazi occult assertion of Shambhala as a land of malevolent magic. |
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| freebeesting | May 26 2008, 11:00 PM Post #9 |
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nice info: thanks, i hadnt ever heard of the nazi connection and ill be reading your info and links about it. A few thoughts, the earth is 75 percent water, so it is more like a mass of liquid being held together by gravity. The outermost layer is the coolest and therefore, most solid. Solid enough for us to walk on. But what DOES really hold that much mass together? I have been getting more into the theory that just about all planets, just like suns, have a black hole in their center. It makes a heck of a lot of sense too. Even if the sun is keeping the earth from cooling by cooking its outside, how does that translate into the hottest part of the sphere being the center? Yes the pressure. But we are talking about a LOT of heat here. And heat that never disapates. I would say that is the result of something like a small star (which we pretty much know that black holes cause the fission necessary for a star) at the core of this sphere. This is not an original idea being steeped in new age dogma. But if its the truth it doesnt matter who says it. So this idea that there is a sun (star) in the core of the planet is intriguing on an intelectual, not just eclectic level. I had really interpreted the video black hole sun to be about the galactic allignment and sort of refering to reptillian shapeshifters too. I never meant to offend you necra. I love all the things you share. Your one of my favorites. |
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| necramericanomicon | May 27 2008, 08:59 PM Post #10 |
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sWRDjgByyzY&NR=1 these comments were made by poster "old smelly crotch" on p. 26 of the comments for the song: "Worked it out. Either SoundGarden are big on occultism Freemasonry or the director is. The clock is a black sun. The Black Sun is a symbol for the Knights of Malta Cross. Which is also the cross used by the Nazis, which may also coincide with the song BLACK Hole SUN. If you wanna be big in the music industry you had better be a Freemason first." "There's some serious Occult (Occult=Hidden) symbolism in this vid. Never noticed it back in the day, but then I didn't know what Occult Symbolism was." |
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