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It looks like war and more; around the bend coming soon
Topic Started: Dec 9 2011, 02:25 PM (472 Views)
yass
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I've been reading about it here and there. I thought I'd sit back for a while and that perhaps it's just alarmist news that leads to nothing as so many times in years past. It's persisting though, the reports and indications. I suppose whether it leads to anything or not it should be discussed.

It was a post at one of my other groups in which someone said:
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Perfect example is the recent passing of the "call them a terrorist and throw them in a hole" bill. No justification for arrest, no notification of attorney or family, no nothing. Just throw you in for life and lock the door. They will do what they want with you inside where no one can see. If they want to take you out and use you for a sex slave, you have no options. And take note people -- out of 98, only 7 voted against this bill in the senate. So not only did it pass the house, it passed the senate! It has more processes, but need I say more? Obama can't veto it now like he wanted. Sick, sick, sick.


Well, I didn't know anything about that bill, I was in the dark, so I went to another group and mentioned it asking if anyone had any links or sources about it (there were no posts about it there yet). There were, however, posts about FEMA hiring people to man the FEMA camps.

Next thing I knew it was coming down the pike. Here's one of the first significant posts after my query. I hate copy/pasting from this group because I either have to format it line by line or leave it like it is which is kind of ugly. Well, it's not so bad in preview.

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The mainstream media is engaged in a shameful and conspiratorial news
Blackout of this entire issue:
http://www.businessinsider.com/the-medias-blackout-of-the-national-defense-a
uthorization-act-is-shameful-2011-12

US Senate votes to end Bill of Rights, authorizes military to occupy U.S.
cities and detain Americans

The rule of law is about to be utterly destroyed. No due process. No legal
representation. Not even a right to know what you're being charged with when
you are (indefinitely) detained.

NaturalNews Insider Alert ( www.NaturalNews.com
<http://www.NaturalNews.com> ) email newsletter
In a stunning move that has civil libertarians stuttering with disbelief,
the U.S. Senate has just passed a bill that effectively ends the Bill of
Rights in America.

This bill, passed late last night in a 93-7 vote, declares the entire USA to
be a "battleground" upon which U.S. military forces can operate with
impunity, overriding Posse Comitatus and granting the military the unchecked
power to arrest, detain, interrogate and even assassinate U.S. citizens with
impunity.

It's being called the most traitorous act ever witnessed in the Senate, and
the language of the bill is cleverly designed to make you think it doesn't
apply to Americans, but toward the end of the bill it essentially says it
can apply to Americans "if we want it to."

Even WIRED magazine was outraged at this bill, reporting:

...the detention mandate to use indefinite military detention in terrorism
cases isn't limited to foreigners. It's confusing, because two different
sections of the bill seem to contradict each other, but in the judgment of
the University of Texas' Robert Chesney - a nonpartisan authority on
military detention - "U.S. citizens are included in the grant of detention
authority."
http://www.wired.com/dangerroom/2011/12/senate-military-detention/

The passage of this law is nothing less than an outright declaration of WAR
against the American People by the military-connected power elite. If this
is signed into law, it will shred the remaining tenants of the Bill of
Rights and unleash upon America a total military dictatorship, complete with
secret arrests, secret prisons, unlawful interrogations, indefinite
detainment without ever being charged with a crime, the torture of Americans
and even the "legitimate assassination" of U.S. citizens on right here on
American soil!

If you have not yet woken up to the reality of the police state we've been
warning you about, I hope you realize we are fast running out of time. Once
this becomes law, you have no rights whatsoever in America -- no due
process, no First Amendment speech rights, no right to remain silent,
nothing.

Read my red alert warning on this urgent development at:
http://www.naturalnews.com/034291_SB_1867_war_on_terror.html

... and watch this urgent interview with Alex Jones of InfoWars.com at:
http://www.infowars.com/stewart-rhodes-crossroads-ndaa-bill-is-pure-treason/


The mainstream media is engaged in a shameful and conspiratorial news
blackout of this entire issue:
http://www.businessinsider.com/the-medias-blackout-of-the-national-defense-a
uthorization-act-is-shameful-2011-12

... and even the ACLU is outraged about this potential law:
http://www.aclu.org/blog/national-security/senate-rejects-amendment-banning-
indefinite-detention


Are you getting all this? Do you realize America is about to be overrun by
our own military?

The rule of law is about to be utterly destroyed. No due process. No legal
representation. Not even a right to know what you're being charged with when
you are (indefinitely) detained.



This is an urgent time for action to protest the overreaching military
police state in America. Immediately call your representatives in Washington
and urge your House members to reject this bill in the reconciliation phase
with the Senate. Call the office of the President and urge Obama to veto
this bill if it is passed by both houses.

Call your local newspapers and protest this outrageous and traitorous
attempt to nullify the entire Bill of Rights.

Do not be fooled by the trolls and disinfo agents who claim this bill does
not apply to U.S. citizens -- a fact which has already been established
without question. If this is signed into law, military humvees will roll
down the streets in U.S. cities, with gunpoint checkpoints, illegal arrests,
secret torture operations and the outright murder of U.S. citizens right in
their own home towns.



In observing all this, you might ask WHY is this happening right now? Why
would the U.S. Senate deliberately nullify the Bill of Rights and seek the
authorize military action on the streets of U.S. cities?

The answer, my friends, will not comfort you: A global economic collapse is
coming, and once started, it will likely unleash a wave of social unrest and
rioting that could burn many U.S. cities to the ground. The U.S. Senate is
probably trying to rush authorization of the military to operate in American
cities before the economic collapse arrives, thereby placing troops deep
within the roughest U.S. cities where they stand a chance at halting the
runaway riots that are sure to materialize when peoples' life savings vanish
as the banks collapse.

Keep reading NaturalNews.com for updates on this situation. We will continue
to cover the Eurozone economic crisis as well as this Senate bill 1867,
which is not yet law. Our last-ditch hope would be for Obama to veto it.
We'll issue a red alert if that action is needed...

And remember, folks, the Bill of Rights protects us all -- liberals,
conservatives, libertarians, agnostics, Christians, Jews, everybody! If you
lose the Bill of Rights, you lose America and all the freedoms many
generations have fought for. Right now protecting the Bill of Rights is
perhaps the single most important thing we can do for our collective
futures.

All of us who have been screaming about the importance of the U.S.
Constitution have been trying to protect YOU from exactly this kind of
scenario. The whole purpose of the Bill of Rights is to limit the power of
government so that this kind of Senate action is never allowed.


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yass
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Here are some other articles that may be of interest:

Wall Street Buys Up Guns - Wednesday, December 07
2011
All I can say is, People take good care of your guns and buy plenty plenty
of ammunition because guns are not much use without it. M

Mystery company buying up U.S. gun manufacturers ... Some gun enthusiasts
have claimed that the power behind the company is actually George Soros, the
hedge-fund billionaire and liberal activist. Soros, these people have warned
is buying U.S. gun companies so he can dismantle the industry, Second
Amendment be damned. The chatter grew so loud that the National Rifle
Association issued a statement in October denying the rumors. "NRA has had
contact with officials from Cerberus and Freedom Group for some time," the
NRA assured its members. "The owners and investors involved are strong
supporters of the Second Amendment and are avid hunters and shooters." Soros
isn't behind the Freedom Group, but, ultimately, another financier is:
Stephen Feinberg, the chief executive of Cerberus. Cerberus is part of one
of the signature Wall Street businesses of the past decade: private equity.
– New York Times
We are sure this is just the market at work ... aren't we? Or will there
come a day in the not too distant future when the NRA announces that in
order to buy a rifle you will need to be formally licensed and fingerprinted
You will need an ID or a microchip implant.
And then, perhaps, the NRA will announce that the Freedom Group, America's
number one gun owner, is firmly behind the measure! "The industry supports
it," we shall be told. "And so should you!"
Conclusion: "We fight for the independence of recreational gun owners and
hunters everywhere," the press release might continue. "And that's why we
stand side-by-side with the NRA in welcoming this most important initiative.
Call your Congressperson today!" Mr. Feinberg, the wire reports inform us,
could not be reached for comment ...


http://www.thedailybell.com/3327/Wall-Street-Buys-Up-Guns
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Here are a couple that I missed seeing. I was going back trying to find some I'd seen when I saw these. I don't know how I missed them before:

China's Hu urges navy to prepare for combat
 
China's Hu urges navy to prepare for combat

BEIJING — Chinese President Hu Jintao on Tuesday urged the navy to prepare
for military combat, amid growing regional tensions over maritime disputes
and a US campaign to assert itself as a Pacific power....

http://www.google.com/hostednews/afp/article/ALeqM5gAez8SIMfjSbwOXzFSBLxNzlZrFg?\
docId=CNG.858b1c9b4e61e65eb7764010c93e843b.2a1



Iran Moves Forces To War Alert
 
Iran Moves Forces To War Alert
Whether it is just posturing or this time Iran feels it has little to lose,
following a spate of mysterious explosions and a downed US attack drone (for
those who can put 2 and 2 together), it seems that the oil-rich country is
increasingly seeing war as the probable endspiel. YNet reports that Iran is
moving missiles to secret sites, Western officials tell British paper;
earlier, Tehran residents reported to stockpile goods, fearing imminent
strike.....

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/iran-moves-forces-war-alert
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The Pentagon Is Offering Free Military Hardware To Every Police Department In The US

The U.S. military has some of the most advanced killing equipment in the world that allows it to invade almost wherever it likes at will.

We produce so much military equipment that inventories of military robots, M-16 assault rifles, helicopters, armored vehicles, and grenade launchers eventually start to pile up and it turns out a lot of these weapons are going straight to American police forces to be used against US citizens.

Benjamin Carlson at The Daily reports on a little known endeavor called the "1033 Program" that gave more than $500 million of military gear to U.S. police forces in 2011 alone.

1033 was passed by Congress in 1997 to help law-enforcement fight terrorism and drugs, but despite a 40-year low in violent crime, police are snapping up hardware like never before. While this year's staggering take topped the charts, next year's orders are up 400 percent over the same period.

This upswing coincides with an increasingly military-like style of law enforcement most recently seen in the Occupy Wall Street crackdowns.

Tim Lynch, director of the Cato Institute's project on criminal justice told The Daily, “The trend toward militarization was well under way before 9/11, but it’s the federal policy of making surplus military equipment available almost for free that has poured fuel on this fire.”

From The Daily:

Thanks to it, cops in Cobb County, Ga. — one of the wealthiest and most educated counties in the U.S. — now have an amphibious tank. The sheriff of Richland County, S.C., proudly acquired a machine-gun-equipped armored personnel carrier that he nicknamed “The Peacemaker.”

This comes on top of grants from the Department of Homeland Security that enable police departments to buy vehicles such as “BearCats” — 16,000-pound bulletproof trucks equipped with battering rams, gun ports, tear-gas dispensers and radiation detectors. To date, more than 500 of these tank-like vehicles have been sold by Lenco, its Massachusetts-based manufacturer, according to a report in the Orlando Sentinel.


“It’s kind of had a corrupting influence on the culture of policing in America,” Lynch says. “The dynamic is that you have some officer go to the chief and say, people in the next county have [military hardware], if we don’t take it some other city will. Then they acquire the equipment, they create a paramilitary unit, and everything seems fine.

“But then one or two years pass. They say, look we’ve got this equipment, this training and we haven’t been using it. That’s where it starts to creep into routine policing.”

http://articles.businessinsider.com/2011-12-05/news/30476833_1_armored-vehicles-military-equipment-police-forces#ixzz1fxGJeVCv
Edited by yass, Dec 9 2011, 02:50 PM.
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I went to and read at this site earlier but the last couple times I tried to open it, it wouldn't load:

Oath Keepers Alert: Federal Agents Demand Customer Lists From Mormon Food Storage Facility

Oath Keepers has learned that federal agents recently visited a Later Day
Saints (Mormon) Church food storage cannery in Tennessee, demanding customer
lists, wanting to know the identity of Americans who are purchasing food
storage from the Mormons....

http://oathkeepers.org/oath/2011/12/08/oath-keepers-alert-federal-agents-demand-\
customer-lists-from-mormon-food-storage-facility/
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