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Why am I so confused?
Topic Started: Feb 19 2011, 10:56 PM (1,362 Views)
epona
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There was an interesting show on last night about the black plague. It was saying we were all taught in history class that it was around 15% of the world population or so that died. They are now figuring out it was about 50-60%. Wowser!

Then they went on to ask -- how did this affect how things were done, the economy, the knowledge of medicine, science, the changeover of powers, the changeover of classes in society?

Very interesting ideas. It then showed how at first, the poor looted rich merchants and sometimes rich estates (whole families died out) and everyone was grabbing what they could. It was pointed out that the ultra rich were not affected a whole lot because of what? They went into seclusion on their isolated huge estates! (sound familiar?).

At any rate, when the smoke cleared there was a new middle class and some new rich people. With the loss of so many "working hands" people had to become very creative to survive. Thus the Renaissance! Always wondered why it came after the Dark Ages, now I know why. They had to make do with much less workers than before so things had to be invented for business to continue. Printing press. Weaving machines, etc. There you go. The start of industrialization. Then when the poor started going into the towns to get these new type jobs and better themselves, the previous homesteads that depended on serfs were left serf-less and they had to probably for the first time in their lives, do their own planting and harvesting. It was all very interesting. History Channel.

So my thinking is, when there are LOTS of people, it is to humanity's advantage. When there are few people, it is to the reps advantage as they can control the economy -and- the people that way. So that is why we keep hearing of this and that plague in the last 10 yrs. It is something they want to do to get us more manageable again and keep their whole gravy train rolling along for another 6000 yrs.
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nag hammmadi & black plague means NOTHING, AS bad as it seems.
= lucypher ain't fool me
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Gun,

Short version response: What Epona said.

Longer response:

Take a break. It is easy to feel alienated, and I understand your frustration. I remember once wondering what the point is about uncovering the truth about any of this stuff. Just chill. I went through the same thing, as most if not all on here have in the past. It can be overwhelming. I read all threads on here but some naturally interest me more than others do because of the subject matter. I do not take anyone's word on here as gospel as we are all just people, but there are some very intuitive and insightful people on here. I just sift through everything on here and keep what I need and move on. I usually don't look at any other similar websites but I used to. I had to stop because it got to be very overwhelming. Just look at GLP or other similar ones and notice how many types of different topics there are and you quickly realize that it's very easy to get information overload - kind of like that commercial for BING where the first person says something which prompts the second person to define one of the words just said, which prompts a third person to do the same, etc., etc. etc. Unplug for a bit!

Take care and come back soon!
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epona
Feb 20 2011, 12:47 PM
You see the affect it has on you, and on the rest of us too. From time to time I take a break from it too. After all, it's hard to deal with a reality that we grew up with, see and touch. YET be told to (essentially) take on faith almost that none of it is real. Would blow anyone out of the water, because it asks one to drop the only reality we know and consider one we cannot see (at least not very well) and believe. Tough it is. That is why there are so few.

It messes up our brains too like that, so don't let it get you down. Let it further enforce your desire to overcome it (i.e. your inner resolve to be yourself -- not what someone else wants you to be or what thoughts something else puts in your mind).

At the end of the day it messes up your belief system big time (just when you thought you had it all sorted out), it does not pay the bills, endear you to the masses, help you at the job. So what good is it?

That is the 64 million dollar question.

It has taught me to "watch" things closer, interactions with people, what the media says/how they say it/what they DON'T report and why, political playacting - who is doing the 'distract' game/who is doing 'look at me' game/what are we being distracted from, where are the wars being fought and the MULTI-layer reasons why, who is jocking for power next on the plate, what new invention is messing with us, health concerns that shouldn't exist and what to do, what is just religion and what remains of it as real truth.

These are the things we learn, and it helps to have bits of truths to hold on to if we can't have the whole enchilada of truth. =The real truth is learned by going within.=

And it is this they wish to block! "By what", you say? The stuff you learn in here ;) By uncovering the crap, we get to wash the window a little more cleaner to look out of. So we find a tidbit of truth and cherish it. Take that within and see what you can find on the inner with it.

One thing I DO know. Is that the god that created my SOUL is safe to pray to. Everything else is suspect in my book, except Jesus. Not because I am a Westerner. But because he was the ONLY person on this planet to teach =how= to safely navigate the rocky waters we are totally surrounded by. And even though the stories around him and all about the ancient times may have been mis-translated, scrambled and perverted....his teachings were SO POWERFUL that they survived. God saw to it. What other book has survived so long? That, the Vedas and Tibetan stuff. That's it. The Bible has survived 2000 yrs for Jesus' words. And the Old Testament stuff 4000 yrs. I really don't think the history of this batch of humankind goes any further than that no matter what they say because (like I said before) of the nuclear wars that happened back then. Before that was most likely another batch of humankind with their own history. Maybe some day we will find out when they uncover all the stuff in the Gobi. I think the TRUE Indic records will be found there. Older than the Vedas.

Too many things have simply been covered up and with a few generations disappeared from our consciousness. When you can't keep records, knowledge perishes. And that is why the Alexandria Library was destroyed. Look at what happened when people in our era found the Dead Sea Scrolls and the Naghammadi. They translated it and decided not to reveal it because it crossed religious beliefs! So think of stuff thousands of times more powerful than that? Do you think they would even tell us they discovered it??? NO. There is stuff in Egypt that they still haven't told the public about. But little things leak out. Like airplanes on heiroglyphs. UFOs in Renaissance paintings. This is what this forum is about and why we come here. We can't help it, we all want all the truth we can find!

So relax, go have a beer and have some fun with the family. You will learn there is no one to talk to, unless you find a kindred soul about this stuff. Here there are kindred souls. Inquiring minds. With your family you can laugh about "some of the kooky stuff I learned in there today", and they will laugh along with you. But the seed is planted. Maybe 15 yrs from now they will see something you said and be aware that they are seeing it and think, "Oh yeah, Gunroshin said something about that, he was right after all."

Remember, "wise as a serpent, harmless as a dove" (btw serpent is -not- the same as reptilian, so snake may be a smart creature and we just don't know about it yet :)
Epona:

Thanks so much for being here and for what you bring.
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EPONA, YOU GOT IT RIGHT !
i MEAN
" At any rate, when the smoke cleared there was a new middle class and some new rich people. With the loss of so many "working hands" people had to become very creative to survive. Thus the Renaissance! Always wondered why it came after the Dark Ages, now I know why. They had to make do with much less workers than before so things had to be invented for business to continue. Printing press. Weaving machines, etc. There you go. The start of industrialization. Then when the poor started going into the towns to get these new type jobs and better themselves, the previous homesteads that depended on serfs were left serf-less and they had to probably for the first time in their lives, do their own planting and harvesting. It was all very interesting. History Channel. "
yeah, when i said black plague means nothing, i REALLY MEANT IT WAS A PERFEKTLY CONTROLLED BY sorcerers EVENT, A DRAMATYK ONE, BUT... THERE' S RE-INCARNATYON ANYWAY - RIGHT ?
= WHETHER it was not "black plague" ... "happening" (not at all ny itself...), WE would be now a ...sorry about how it sounds like ... yea, WE would live in a muslim technologysed society , maybe even planetary state.
= a lot of "scientifyk news" were , in fact, ancient legacyes, which at the time of the black plague meant some islamyk secret societyes, & collaboratyon 'tween templars & hashishins / assassins ... = i "smell' right now a-knife-in-the-back of the muslims...
= yeah, westerners STOLE FROM easterners these ancient technologyes "atlantis-like", & then there was that "black plague" destroying for-ever islamyk hegemony, while there came "industralisatyon" in the west...
DO YOU KNOW WHAT ... comte of saint-germain told a "comrade" right before he/ it dissapeared from post-revolutionary france 1789?
"i gotta go to england, i have to release the steam-engine..."
comteof saint-germain= lucypher .
CAPISCI , my BELOVED SISTER ??!!!?
= ..."FORGET ABOUT IT"... CAPISCI ?
DIVYNE IS WITH YOU

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