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What Does "Christ" Mean?; understanding scripture by hearing the words out loud
Topic Started: Oct 18 2010, 01:43 PM (1,410 Views)
freebeesting
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It is my goal in these paragraphs to try to understand what the word "Christ" means. In order to do this we must take into account biblical history. The word "Christ" is an english translation of a particular area of the eternal name of the creator of all things (YHVH spelled in Hebrew) given to Moses at the burning bush.

Exodus 1:1-6

1] Now Moses, tending the flock of his father-in-law Jethro, the priest of Midian, drove the flock into the wilderness, and came to Horeb, the mountain of God.
2] An angel of the LORD appeared to him in a blazing fire out of a bush. He gazed, and there was a bush all aflame, yet the bush was not consumed.
3] Moses said, "I must turn aside to look at this marvelous sight; why doesn't the bush burn up?"
4] When the LORD saw that he had turned aside to look, God called to him out of the bush: "Moses! Moses!" He answered "Here I am."
5] And He said, "Do not come closer. Remove your sandals from your feet, for the place on which you stand is holy ground.
6] I am," He said, "the God of your father, the God of Abraham, the God of Isaac, and the God of Jacob." And Moses hid his face, for he was afraid to look at God.


Take note that the word "God" is atributable to the word "Elohim" in hebrew. Elohim (ello heem) is a pluralized general word used for any dieties. So it basically means angels. It is pointed out specifically if an angel is of the "LORD." Although it is just as possible, I think, that Elohim might have been ONLY used to refer to angels of the LORD.
Take note that LORD is in reference to the Hebrew word "YHVH" for the most high creator of all things. The Torah I have spells the hebrew "YHVH" in english as "Ehyeh" which is pronounced "Ya Hoo eh" or easily spelled as "Yahua" as far as I can gather. I learned of this from Sherry Shriner.


http://lists.ibiblio.org/pipermail/b-hebrew/2006-January/027548.html

God's personal name--YHVH--can be "defined" etymologically or
>grammatically. Hebrew linguists believe yhvh is a form of the verb
>havah, meaning to be or become. Specifically, many linguists say yhvh
>is a Qal imperfect third masculine singular. Following normal Hebrew
>grammar patterns, the vowels "a" and "e" would be added to these
>consonants, giving us the word "YaHVeH." This pronunciation is supported
>by early Greek biblical texts that spell the name "Iaoue" (Ya-oo-eh) and
>"Iabe" (Yabe; there is no "v" sound in Greek).
>What does "Yahveh" mean?

http://lists.ibiblio.org/pipermail/b-hebrew/2006-January/027548.html


YHVH would not be pronounced "YAHWAY" because there is no "W" sound in the current hebrew dialect. This is actually a major point of debate right now in theology. Though the pronunciation becomes quite obvious (ironically) when you consult the Greek which I have always been wary of doing. But nobody can agree on how to pronounce "Ehyeh-Asher-Ehyeh" except for Sherry Shriner and me I guess. It becomes quite obvious when you ask the almighty creator of all things for the answer that you must remove the dashes from the word. They didnt have dashes back then. So then you will get "EHYEHASHEREHYEH" which I agree with Shriner is pronounced "YA HOO SHOO UHH) and I think would be best spelled "Yahushua."

Because Moses had to ask for YHVH to reveal his name we can assume that the hebrews did not already know it.

Exodus 3:13-15

13] Moses said to God, "When I come to the Israelites and say to them 'The God of your fathers has sent me to you,' and they ask me, 'What is his name?' what shall I say to them?"
14] And God said to Moses, "Ehyeh-Asher-Ehyeh." He continued, "Thus shall you say to the Israelites, 'Ehyeh sent me to you.'"
15] And God said further to Moses, "Thus shall you speak to the Israelites: The LORD, the God of your fathers, the God of Abraham, The God of Issac, and the God of Jacob, has sent me to you:
This shall be My name forever,
This my appellation for all eternity.

Note once again that "God" is speaking to Moses, and not the "LORD" at this time. Remember the word "God" refers to "Elohim" (angel of the lord) and "Lord" refers to "Yahua" (most high creator of all things). I think that we can assume from the context that the angel is telling Moses to tell the Israelites that Yahua (who they already understand to be the most high creator of all things) sent him. The eternal name, Yahushua is given to moses as the eternal name that mankind will know Yahua as forever.

Coincidentally exodus 3:14 corresponds to 3.14 as Pi Which is a mathematical way of saying "Circle" as we all know. And pi is an infinite number, as mathematicians know. There is a mathematical legend surrounding the number Pi which makes the assumption that the name of God is hidden within this number. It is the name of the creator of all things they are after, although the name of the angel of the lord speaking to moses WOULD be interesting. The name of the creator of all things is given in exodus 3:14. It is "Ehyeh-Asher-Ehyeh" pronounced "YAHUSHUA." There is also an indication here that Yahua (LORD) was the "God" (Elohim) of Abraham, Issac, and Jacob. Which I think can be taken to mean that those men interacted directly with Yahua (who might have been refered to as "El" the singular of elohim) at that time. Whereas in Moses' time angels are interacting verbally in conversations between the LORD (Yahua) and Man.

Where we find ourselves is wondering what the relationship is between the words Yahua and Yahushua. It becomes clear that the word Yahushua is a combination of "Yahua" and "Shua" which the "SH" seems to correspond to the "CH" in "Christ." So Yahushua (which makes it to present day translated as "Jesus Christ") is the ETERNAL name of Yahua given to Moses who the Hebrews already know as the most high creator of all things. But lets go a little deeper...what if we break Yahua into its sylables? "YA" "HU" "A" You might see what I do in that YA is the "Father" or most high creator of all things. "HU" is his breath (Holy Spirit) which he breathed into the "A" dust of the earth. And when taking into account what Wiolawa has said about "EA" (ea-ya?) being who we are trying to talk about when we talk about Jesus Christ in present day it actually is very amazing. The verbalized sound of a word in language seems to tell us more than just the spelling. We know that mankind calls himself "Human." I think this is a reference to "Man who has had the Holy Spirit breathed into him." It is understood that Yahushua (Jesus Christ) brought the holy spirit to the world. One can easily then see the correlations occuring here. The word yahua (ya hoo ahh) contains three seperate references. Keep in mind that I am only attempting to understand the data we have. I do not wish to instruct anyone in linguistics. "YA" is a reference to the most high creator of all things. There are countless references to this word in many different regions and cultures. Many times the Y is turned into a J to make "Ja" but I dont see how this was necessary unless the dialect of that particular culture did not use the sound of "Y" in their language. Perhaps that is one way to identify where usurpations have taken place. If they changed it and didnt need to then why did they change it? But anyways...oh yes next in the word "Yahua" is "HU." As wiolawa has pointed out, we are called "HU"mans. And she sees this as some kind of genetic event when Yahushua brought the holy spirit to the world. I have always assumed this occured before
Humans were created in scripture. So this theory is hard to argue with. And finally "A" which seems as if it has to be a reference to dust of the earth somehow. I almost want to think volcanic ash. There is a good argument for clay too.

We know "Jesus Christ" or "Yahushua" was always with mankind before, during, and after the garden of eden was created (refer to scripture). Key word here being "Before" mankind. In fact it is made quite clear that "Jesus Christ" or "Yahushua" brought the holy spirit to the world in which we currently find ourselves. Ok so we know that "YA" is our father (who is in heaven), and long ago before mankind that "Christ" or "Shua" brought the "Holy Spirit" or "HU" to "The World." So whatever "The WORLD" was before it was blessed with the holy spirit was much different than it is now. We have no way of really knowing exactly what it was like. And what we end up with is the beginning of mankind when finally "YA" and "HU" are connected with "AH" (like say ahh). You get the word YAHUAH or the easier to spell Yahua. What is the "AH" you ask? It is in scripture. Mankind is created out of the "Dust of the EArth." "EArth" (Ehyeh-rth)

So the question arises: "What is 'Shua' or 'Christ'?" The simple answer is that it definitely has to do with imaculate conception. Jesus Christ or Yahushua was born of a virgin mother.

I believe the marijuana plant can symbolize the Shua (immaculate conception) concept in plant life. If a female marijuana plant does NOT get pollinated by a male marijuana plant, yet completes the flowering phase, then you will have some very potent high-quality marijuana buds/fruit known as sensimillia which are extremely covered in crystals. Pollinated marijuana will have seed-bearing fruit which must have the seeds removed before smoking and is not very potent. So the marijuana plant can illustrate imaculate conception and the goodness that Shua offers. I think that you can even draw parallels between all three parts of the marijuana plant, and the lines of Noah. (Fruit/Shem, Leaf/Ham, Stem/Japheth). The characteristic high from smoking each are quite different, yet united by their varying levels of THC. Sensimillia has the most THC. I have even gotten the thought from this concept that Yahua could be a reference to the three lines of Noah as YA/Shem, HU/Ham, A/Japheth. Adding the Shua is the immaculate conception, therefore YAHUSHUA.


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Enjoyed reading your thread!

So the question arises: "What is 'Shua' or 'Christ'?"= Messenger of consciousness awareness that is to say The Christed one and NOT Jesus of Nazareth

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First of all, the word "Christ" comes from "christos", a Greek word meaning "anointed". It is the equivalent of the word "moshiach", or Messiah, in Hebrew. So, to be the Christ, or Messiah, is to be "the anointed one of God". But what does that mean? To be anointed is literally to have sacred anointing oil poured on one's head because God has chosen the person for a special task.

To be anointed is to receive a religious ritual blessing. It suggests a conferred consecration and a subsequent state of grace.

The state of grace in the universal language of mind, grace refers to the relief we experience from the karma of repition of painfull experiences which only comes through understanding. When we understand how and why we have particular experiences, then we know how to do things differently so that the results are better.

"Christ" or "Shua" brought the.......... "Holy Spirit" = Molecules of Emotions, Intellect and Will

The simple answer is that it definitely has to do with imaculate conception.
Jesus Christ or Yahushua was born of a virgin mother


I personaly beleive that the imprinting of the words above is the cause of confusion....... Key word here being "Before" mankind........nowhere does it state that virgin mother was here before mankind!.......... implies to me that The Christed One is not the same HUman as Jesus of Nazareth........ we cannot even confrim if The Christed one was in a HUman body!

Virgin = Virgo
Mercury was believed to be the messenger of the gods. It is an earth sign which is materialist and full of stability, yet it is also mutable........ Governed by Mercury = Mother or Mary

Enjoyed the parallels of marijuana!

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Way back in the day when I used to travel around visiting the various religion rooms at MSN Chat I went into the Catholic room and someone was what you call shouting and scrolling the same line and what that line was:

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CHRIST IS UNCONDITIONAL LOVE!


I thought it sounded good enough. I'm still pondering the word "Unconditional".

-Love will lead
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Im going to equate the "Shua" part of "Yahushua" with "THC" (which coincidentally corresponds to the word "Christ" quite well)
Whereas there is the most THC (Shua) present in the Sensimillia (Yahushua) which is the unfertilized marijuana bud, and the next most THC present in the fertilized marijuana bud/Shem (SH:CH), and the next most amount of THC present in the marijuana leaf/Ham (Hash:Harder to get THC, but very potent, requires extraction), and THC of an undetermined level present in the marijuana stem (holds leaf and bud during drying and curing, makes rope, THC present, smoking the stem requires vaporization or soaking in alchohol to aquire) There is THC present in the roots (pre-flood?) but no easy way to aquire it.

At the harvest it seems as if the Shua (THC) that is collected on the scissors blades when the freshly severed (from the roots)--roots stop growing in the flowering phase--shem, ham, and japeth become rootbound into the united states--plant is trimmed of the outer leaves and the buds are groomed. It might be known to the gardener that since he is the one cutting the stem, trimming the leaves and buds, and collecting this shua on his scissors, it is a unique and rare experience to smoke shua in its FRESH state. Even your most experienced marijuana smoker will be impressed with the experience, which is a lot like 100% positivity for lack of a better way of describing it. I have shared some of this fresh shua with my partner and they were amazed by the feeling of "...falling asleep with angels tugging at my heels." Later on when you trim the dried marijuana for curing the shua which sticks to the scissors is dry and darker in color. When smoked though it provides a deeper more thoughtful, less wild high than the fresh shua. But has its own unique characteristic high (what would the name of the high be in all this?). Buds smoked in their fresh state is also a unique experience, but not preferable to buds which have been dried and cured.

I have gone as far as thinking of the whole thing as a water-pipe (bong), and no I mean no disrespect here. It is hard to draw paralells and I must where i can. So we (human) have now recieved Yahushua(Jesus) in the flesh by his resurection. So therefore have produced one Sensimillia bud called "Our Father in the Flesh" and have seen as a tree together what we are capable of. The seed of the buds which were on the same tree as the one which contained the first sensimillia bud are most likely to produce seed which will know how to bear more sensimillia buds.

Jesus/Yahushua has been equated with "Living Water" and it would seem as if we were watered by the Holy Spirit being brought into the world by Yahushua which allowed us to grow and diversify, and finally after maturing we are purified by being burned up by the holy spirit through a water pipe, and the Shua we all contain is the smoke which goes through the living water which fed it during life. whatever passes through the water and back into the lungs of the the most high in the flesh, Yahushua who spoke us into existence, is good.

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Moses and his cohorts stole the medianites(egyptians)(is ra el) gods and called them their own, jehova(yahwey), the ole medianites god of war and thunder--- The Nazarene referred to his Father in Heaven.
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