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magickal masonic manga: fairy tale; grand master makes finger of st john at a steeple
Topic Started: Sep 23 2010, 12:00 PM (1,915 Views)
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Yes I guess you might call it that I will find the link and manga is very similar to stan lee marvel and dc comics of which I read religiously as a kid.... I am the real life encarnation of the silver surfer that's it..... but bleach sounds interesting I'll check it out... kinda like Dr. Strange in the House.!!!

mundo hueco = hollow earth is the proper format and definition...
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Yes I guess you might call it that I will find the link and manga is very similar to stan lee marvel and dc comics of which I read religiously as a kid.... I am the real life encarnation of the silver surfer that's it..... but bleach sounds interesting I'll check it out... kinda like Dr. Strange in the House.!!!

mundo hueco = hollow earth is the proper format and definition...
hollow earth, interesting...as the hueco mundo entities are called "hollows"...but they appear out of rifts that open up in the sky

the anime "bleach" has many story arcs that are not related to the spanish "hueco mundo" main arc...but the current offerings on goodanime and crunchyroll are related to the main arc

the main perpetrator is called aizen, and he uses a powerful form of hypnotism to control his adversaries and henchmen alike

the japanese masons seem to be intrigued with the magickal/occultic traditions of different cultures, and this is reflected in any number of their manga offerings
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Sep 28 2010, 04:21 PM
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Sep 23 2010, 12:00 PM
http://www.goodanime.net/fairy-tail-episode-47

at 1:35 into the intro, the grand master markov, stands in the steeple on top of his magickal guild, fairy tale, and makes a saint john gesture, according to the book "the templar revelation", which is the index finger of the right arm pointed straight up to heaven/sun/god/

so he is essentially making a finger of saint john at a bell steeple, which the authors say is itself representative of a finger of saint john...the templars supposedly see john the baptist as the true messiah

although manga may be considered as something for the consumption of children, there are obviously occultic considerations in the making of it

manga is an incredibly successful art form, and is viewed worldwide
Interesting. Jesus actually said it would be John the Baptist. I'd have to find the verse again, but he said it. I've always kept it under hat and another thing, which I don't want to mention unless I find it again.

It's in the Bible. I was curious why everyone in 'religion' had over looked it... and the other.

I guess it hasn't completely been overlooked then.
yeh, please post the scriptural verse, as i have read that john the baptist said that one greater than him would be coming, which was jesus, but not that jesus said the same thing about john

weren't they cousins, or blood relations? the "templar revelation" book says that this was the case

the priory de sion ARE the illuminati, as per this book, since they were the directing body which presided over the knights templar, which were said to be forced underground, and when they fled into hiding took with them a treasure trove which was second only to the assets of the catholic church at that time...there have even been one or more popes who were members, which meant that they favored john the baptist over jesus
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As these men were going away, Jesus began to speak to the crowds about John, "What did you go out into the wilderness to see? A reed shaken by the wind?

"But what did you go out to see? A man dressed in soft clothing? Those who wear soft clothing are in kings' palaces!

"But what did you go out to see? A prophet? Yes, I tell you, and one who is more than a prophet.

"This is the one about whom it is written,
'BEHOLD, I SEND MY MESSENGER AHEAD OF YOU,
WHO WILL PREPARE YOUR WAY BEFORE YOU.'

"Truly I say to you, among those born of women there has not arisen anyone greater than John the Baptist! Yet the one who is least in the kingdom of heaven is greater than he.

"From the days of John the Baptist until now the kingdom of heaven suffers violence, and violent men take it by force.

"For all the prophets and the Law prophesied until John.

"And if you are willing to accept it, John himself is Elijah who was to come.

"He who has ears to hear, let him hear.


Matthew 11:7-15

http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Matthew+11&version=NASB

Some other interesting references I ran across while searching:

http://www.christianityoasis.com/TellMeTheStoryOfJesus/SpiritOfElijah.htm

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Well, now that John has entered the picture, they KNOW that he's paving the way for Jesus and now the alarm on their time clock is set. Their time is limited. Whatever they heard from the prophets up until now, was about to come to pass. The devil had 4000 years so far to be prince of the earth, now the Prince of Heaven has come to stir things up a bit. Another thing to remember, is that the devil knows scripture and so he knows about the time of the Jewish people and the time of the Gentiles, and he can do math too, so he must be a little annoyed that his time is now limited. Violence in Heaven? You better believe that all of satan's angels aren't quietly standing in line anymore since they got the news. Nope, they're pushin' and shovin' and cuttin' in line and puttin' up a pretty big fuss as you can imagine. Not only is their time limited, but now they've got this Jesus to deal with, which really cramps their style when it comes to the soul stealing game.

Let's take the next sentence. And if you will believe it, this is Elijah, which was for to come. The spirit of Elijah was in John the Baptist. If you recall, when John the Baptist first started preaching, the people asked him if he was Elijah. The reason they asked was because in Malachi 4:5 it says: Behold, I will send you Elijah the prophet before the coming of the great and dreadful day of the Lord: And he shall turn the heart of the fathers to the children, and the heart of the children to their fathers, lest I come and smite the earth with a curse. This is also what the Angel of the Lord told Zacharias in Luke 1:17. An interesting study for how God uses spirits to enter the souls of human's that He is using would be the TWO WITNESSES from the book of Revelation.

The next sentence is one that Jesus says many times. He that hath ears to hear, let him hear. Usually, He says this when He's speaking in parables. He's telling us to figure out what He means. How many times have you read something in the Bible, and you didn't understand it so you just gave up on it in frustration? On occasions when you persisted or at a later time when you figured something out, you can't believe that it wasn't clear the first time, because now it seems as plain as the nose on your face (or the ears on your head). Isaiah 6:9-13 also explains that the Lord closed the understanding of those who choose not to believe. So, Jesus is saying, if you have it in your heart to understand, hear this.


I thought the bit about the devils was interesting.


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This is a very interesting question. First we must ask who was Elijah, and what did he do that was special enough to the Lord to want it done again. Elijah first appears in history when he boldly walks into King Ahabs throne room and tells him that it is not going to rain for 3.5 years, because of the his sins and the sins of Isreal, turns around and walks out and prays for no more rain. and then he disappears into wilderness until the time is up. And then he challenges all the prophets of Jezebel and Baal, about 850, to put their gods to the test. Your lifeless gods agaist my God.

Lets see who is the real God. He says to the people of Israel Choose this day who you will serve if Baal is god choose Baal but If God be God choose Him. The Lord of Heaven shows his power, Baal fails to show any thing, Elijah kills all the false prophets prays for rain and turns the hearts of the people back to the only real God. Please note here that this was not the Elijahs' evangelistic team, it was just ONE man, ONE man filled with the Spirit of God. Behold I will send you Elijah the prophet before the great and dreadful day of the Lord. Mal.4:5 I have heard some say that they believe that Elijah will return in person or that he will be reincarnated if you can believe such a thing as that.. But I personally believe that it is the work of Elijah and the Portion of Gods Spirit it will take to do that work that is spoken of in the above verse. which brings us to John the Baptist.

Johns father Zacharias prophesied of John, "Thou child shalt be called the prophet of the Highest. For thou shalt go before the face of the Lord and prepare His way." Luke 1:76 And He did. He call the people to repentance, the same as Elijah. He said of himself, I am, the voice of ONE crying in the wilderness crying in the wilderness make straight the way of the Lord, as said by the prophet Esaias. [Isa 40:3] Again ONE man filled with the Spirit of God turned a wayward people toward their Maker. He bucked the religious leaders, and reproved the king. {for which he was put in prison and beheaded} It takes a special kind of person for The Lord to use in this way. A person who loves God more than life. A person willing to be used of God. and I also believe that this is what Jesus was talking about. The Spirit of Elijah came in the person of John the Baptist, but it has also came in the person of many others such as Martin Luther, for example, ONE man who stood alone for God to turn the hearts of the people back to Him. and there will be more before the great and terrible day of the Lord.


http://www.answers2prayer.org/bible_questions/Answers/text_explanation/Elijah.html

Jesus did not claim to be God. He referred people to the "Lord God". The heart is the seat of God and we're supposed to use our intellect with the assent of the heart.

I have to say out of all of the books composed in the Bible there is only one I'm most leery about as to being valid, and that's the book of Revelations. That's the book that divides people, the one people use to say "You can't get into paradise unless you go through ME (and me only) I am the ticket to GOD." A lot of so-called Christians like throwing that up in people's faces without even understanding the guidance given them while Jesus was alive and walking and talking, [or those that came before him, like Moses] as to how they should be practicing, and why, towards other humans. Doing all we can to lift people out of oppression is more important than worshiping a prophet as a Diety and being arrogant and unhelpful to other humans as a result of it.

Every prophet has suffered hardships and abuses at some point... it's sort of like training and develops the character. Arrogance? I don't think so. Humility? absolutely. In his life as a man who was alive he said he was the son of man. If he was construed otherwise it's because people twisted it. The book of revelations is allegedly Jesus speaking after dying on the cross.

So, Jesus basically said John the Baptist was Elijah, that he'd already come but people didn't recognize him and that he was the greatest of men born of women, but that the least in the kingdom of Heaven is even greater than he [John the Baptist].

He was deflecting attention from himself and whether people took what he said at face value? Not my problem if they don't or did'nt but I think he was being straight? I think he admired John for detaching himself from the 'system' and eating yucky things like locusts and not having to play the 'game' by being dependent on the 'system' for his food and shelter. That takes a lot of man.

Mary's cousin Elizabeth was pregnant with John at the same time Mary was carrying Jesus and it was said that Elizabeth's baby leaped in her womb when she came in contact with Mary who had come [pregnant with Jesus] to visit her.





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There are mentions that Elijah is yet to return once more.


Malachi 4:5

"Behold, I will send you Elijah the prophet before the great and awesome day of the Lord comes."


Also when I ran across this reference I thought it was interesting. In the Qur'an when 'God' is speaking it is often if not always with the use of "We".

Genesis 3:22
Then the LORD God said, "Behold, the man has become like one of Us, knowing good and evil;"


Elijah [in an Old Testament account] is the one that went to some [non-hebrew] woman and asked for food. She told him she didn't even have enough for her and her son and he told her that she wouldn't run out if she shared with him. Sure enough, her flour container refilled each day but then her son died [not sure how] and so she complained to him saying "Did you just come here to take my son's life?" And somehow, he prayed and the spirit entered her son's body again bringing him back to life.

Here are some different references. Not sure I care to sort it all out.

THE COMING OF ELIJAH
http://www.biblicalpreteristarchive.com/start/fulfilled/don-preston-001-elijah.html


IN THE SPIRIT AND POWER OF ELIJAH
http://www.herealittletherealittle.net/index.cfm?page_name=Elijah


When Elijah Comes, What Will He Be Wearing?
http://timmchyde.com/what-will-elijah-wear/


The Parable of the Ten Virgins Revisited
http://www.escapeallthesethings.com/parable-of-the-ten-virgins.htm
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