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2016 Presidential/General Election
Topic Started: Jul 13 2016, 10:38 PM (1,490 Views)
Aexnidaral Seymour
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Anyone see Trump's comment about "winning 95% of blacks" today?
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Aexnidaral Seymour
Aug 20 2016, 03:28 AM
Anyone see Trump's comment about "winning 95% of blacks" today?
Admittedly, that's not quite what he said. He said if he was elected in 2016, in the 2020 election he would get 95% of the black vote because he would be that awesome for them. Which is complete BS, but unlike Trump, I do like to make sure to try and stick to the truth.
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I mean that's... still what he said? I meant, he said those comments today, not that he said he'd win that percentage today, lol.

Either way, hilarious considering that he's polling behind Jill Stein for fourth place among AA voters.
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You know the worst part though? (Copied from reddit):

Shortly after the real estate mogul concluded his speech, CNN anchor Brianna Keilar asked Trump campaign senior adviser Jack Kingston why Trump continued to reach out to the black community in rallies with mostly white audiences held in areas where few African-Americans live.

“Maybe it would have been nice if he went and had a backdrop with a burning car,” Kingston replied.

What Trump said was ridiculous, but I feel like everyone skipped over this lovely gem of casual racism from The Don's advisor. Because black people won't go unless there's a riot.
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I read an interesting supposition just now: That Trump wasnt trying to court black voters, but that he was trying to convince republican voters that he could court black voters. While wholly ineffective for courting black voters, republicans who dont think of themselves as racists might actually be softened in their concern towards Trump by such a tactic.
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I really love watching him trying to appeal to black voters. He's treating them as if they were 5 year olds. He just doesn't seem to get you need to do more than just a few speeches to win over minorities, you need to actually look like you care about them and he's not showing that.
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Kind of hard to genuinely make a play for voters your party has spent the last 8 years trying to actively disenfranchise. lol
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Yeah it does make me laugh. The GOP realised after 2012 that they had to appeal to minorities or else they were domed as a party. They recognised that they may lose 2016 but if they were able to start making inroads then 2020 and future elections should be easier to win. Then in 2016 they realised that they could win if either Jeb Bush or Marco Rubio was to become the nominee but instead they got Trump. Who it seems has made it even harder for the GOP to appeal to minorities in the future and it looks like they are going to lose the Senate as well and now there is the possibility they may even lose the Senate. That is unlikely but it is likely that they will see a reduced majority.
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Trump has a great relationship with the blacks. He will win so much, the blacks will get tired of winning. Believe me.
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Aug 20 2016, 09:02 PM
Yeah it does make me laugh. The GOP realised after 2012 that they had to appeal to minorities or else they were domed as a party. They recognised that they may lose 2016 but if they were able to start making inroads then 2020 and future elections should be easier to win. Then in 2016 they realised that they could win if either Jeb Bush or Marco Rubio was to become the nominee but instead they got Trump. Who it seems has made it even harder for the GOP to appeal to minorities in the future and it looks like they are going to lose the Senate as well and now there is the possibility they may even lose the Senate. That is unlikely but it is likely that they will see a reduced majority.
Yeah, most of the recent predictions on the Senate was a Republican majority of 51 to the Democrats' 49.
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Yeah, most of the recent predictions on the Senate was a Republican majority of 51 to the Democrats' 49.
Really? Most of the projects I've been seeing show a Dem win or currently can't decide as it's too close. I'd be backing a Dem win in the Senate and the Presidency though sadly not the House.
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Including "safe" seats this cycle: 45 Dems, 44 Republicans. There are 10 seats where Democrats have a chance of picking off Republicans: Arizona, Florida, Wisconsin, Illinois, North Carolina, Ohio, Pennsylvania, New Hampshire and Missouri. Democrats are really only "defending" one seat: Nevada.

If Clinton beats Trump by wide margins, the more likely it is that those seats will become Democratic, too.

The best chance for a Democratic Senate is through: Illinois, Wisconsin, New Hampshire, Pennsylvania, and Indiana. (50 + VP), if they can hold Nevada (51). North Carolina, Florida, and Ohio (53) are all slightly harder for Democrats to win, but they can if Trump dramatically under preforms. AZ and MO are simply the hardest for Dems to win.
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Previous Miss Universe gets US Citizenship to vote against Donald Trump. This follows earlier reports of more Latinos that are legal residents seeking citizenship to vote this fall.

How much of an impact will this have? Are these new citizens being properly accounted for in polling, or will their impact be more limited than I want to believe they can be?
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http://www.nytimes.com/2016/08/24/upshot/democrats-have-a-60-percent-chance-to-retake-the-senate.html
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Previous Miss Universe gets US Citizenship to vote against Donald Trump. This follows earlier reports of more Latinos that are legal residents seeking citizenship to vote this fall.

How much of an impact will this have? Are these new citizens being properly accounted for in polling, or will their impact be more limited than I want to believe they can be?
I doubt it would have a huge impact. Furthermore, given the unpopularity of both candidates, but the observation that there are some traditional democrats (particularly near Youngstown) that seem to taken in by Trump's message (and are angry), I'm not so certain how well the likely voter/demographic sampling models for polling work. I expect the pollsters to do the best, but the accuracy of the models is not as certain.
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