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Regarding Citizens' Assembly Masking
Topic Started: Mar 29 2016, 12:13 AM (555 Views)
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Rather, not extra work (not for someone like me), but definitely not keeping on top of membership would potentially create problems.

If I had a nickel for every single time a CA Chair gave me an admin request to remove CA maskings from people that weren't even citizens anymore...in other words, how much of a focus is keeping "on top of membership" really? :P
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Mar 29 2016, 12:56 AM
Alright. Then if we don't even have to change the Ordinance (and can rely on Chairs to do the job themselves), we should be fine. Heck, I know I'm perfectly comfortable keeping track of membership.

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I am against removing the mask. It would be harder (at least for me) to distinguish between who is a CA member and who is not.
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You couldn't simply cross-check their name against a list?
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Realistically, the name has to be cross checked against a list anyway in many cases. Anyone who is President, Vice President, a Minister, a Deputy Minister, a Justice, etc. can be a CA member, but will not have "Assembly Member" listed as their group. Similarly, without making a formal ruling on the matter, I would suspect that merely being a member of the CA group is not legally sufficient to make someone a CA member. That' a question of the CA ordinance and the acts of the Chair, not what the admins have correctly or incorrectly done.
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I'm perfectly fine getting rid of it.
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The masking currently is a useless signifier, as it can easily be trumped (by the President, VP, Justices, or Ministers, or possibly Deputy Ministers).

I agree with Drecq.
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Mar 29 2016, 01:40 AM
I am against removing the mask. It would be harder (at least for me) to distinguish between who is a CA member and who is not.
I think removing the mask might encourage more people to use the signature. If the mask changes no posting rights then it's not really very useful. And as others have said, a higher-up office like the President can be in the CA too, so the mask isn't always the best way to identify a CA member.

It doesn't make sense to me to overload admins with work that's ultimately unnecessary.
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Do away with the assembly mask: I know I have. One level of support that can exist (and be phased out) is the functionless joinable group. That way a membership list exists that is tied right to the forum itself.
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Mar 29 2016, 12:48 AM
Regarding a joinable group, we could set that up if there was a forum-access differentiation to give it meaning. For example, if the CA wanted to enforce voting rights technologically rather than manually, it could have a separate voting hall (similar to the voting booth in the oval room) that only members of the group could post in. However, under the current set up, a joinable group would be pointless because there is no masking difference between CA members and non-CA members, and, unlike the current "regular" group, a joinable group can't change a member's "member title" (the group listed on the left under the poster's avatar).


So a joinable group would be bad? Or a pain? What does the Chair think about it?

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I agree, do away with the masking and allow for a CA sig.
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I think the mask makes us look better, but do what you must. There must be sacrifices to make things better sometimes.
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Mar 29 2016, 11:49 AM
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Regarding a joinable group, we could set that up if there was a forum-access differentiation to give it meaning. For example, if the CA wanted to enforce voting rights technologically rather than manually, it could have a separate voting hall (similar to the voting booth in the oval room) that only members of the group could post in. However, under the current set up, a joinable group would be pointless because there is no masking difference between CA members and non-CA members, and, unlike the current "regular" group, a joinable group can't change a member's "member title" (the group listed on the left under the poster's avatar).


So a joinable group would be bad? Or a pain? What does the Chair think about it?

I think it depends. It would be bad if it meant the Chair had to maintain a group that made no difference, but if the CA restructures its forums in a way where the group actually does something, it could be very useful.
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I'd be against having that joinable group do something, since that would restrict non-members from viewing the CA in a way that the CA should not do, in my opinion.

EDIT: This means I am also against having a joinable group, for clarification.
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