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Senate By-Election Panel; #euro on Esper.Net
Topic Started: May 16 2015, 01:40 AM (84 Views)
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Join us in #euro for a Panel Discussion on the on-going Senate By-Election. We'll be posting transcripts here occasionally, but feel free to join in the discussion in the meantime!
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From last night:

<Writinglegend> Wait, we're doing something on IRC for the Special Election now? :O
<CptCarrot> *waggles eyebrows*
<Mousebumples> yes
<Mousebumples> because i announced i about 2 minues ago
<Writinglegend> Oh xD
<Mousebumples> *minutes ago
<Mousebumples> after i got the goahead from DH
* Writinglegend didn't see
<Writinglegend> w00t
<Mousebumples> now, to go promote in EuroChat and RMB and Shoutbox
<Mousebumples> unless someone else wants to do that
* Writinglegend gives a thumbs up
<Writinglegend> Bad timing :x
* Writinglegend doesn't want to do that
<Mousebumples> awww
<Mousebumples> but you're president now!
<Mousebumples> you do everything!
<CptCarrot> Doesn't he deserve a break he did everything as VP :P
<Mousebumples> wasn't he napping when he was VP?
<Mousebumples> ;))
<Writinglegend> Was I? D:
<Writinglegend> Maybe it was all a dream and it never happened....
<Writinglegend> A figment of my imagination.
<Mousebumples> anyhow, what are you guy thinking about the Senate By-Election?
<Mousebumples> it's early voting time yet, so hard to draw any conclusions
<Mousebumples> currently 1-3, in favor of cool spring
<Writinglegend> It's the cliche newcomer v veteran battle.
<Writinglegend> (Not in a bad way)
<Mousebumples> fair enough
<Mousebumples> do you guys have any feeling on who is more likely to win?
<Mousebumples> the AAC internal poll was a dead heat, so I'm not sure, honestly
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<Mousebumples> Current vote is 9-13, in favor of Cool Spring.
<Mousebumples> Anyone else around to comment on the status of the Senate Race?
* Writinglegend waves
<Mousebumples> Any thoughts, WL?
<Mousebumples> I'm wondering if this a reaction, in some way, to the fact that there was a lot of discussion about how there's a need to nuture the development of newer members
<Writinglegend> I think the fact that Cool Spring has yet to be elected to the Senate is a heavy reason why he's in the lead thus far.
<Mousebumples> Giving him a try since he hasn't had a chance yet?
<Writinglegend> Not to say that he doesn't have a good platform nor isn't being voted based on his platform.
<Writinglegend> But people want to give him a shot.
<Writinglegend> And it's playing out in this vote thus far.
<Mousebumples> True. And I think it speaks well to him that he participated as a Senate Aide previously.
<Writinglegend> I also think PASD's personality can rub people the wrong way.
<Writinglegend> So maybe he's losing votes on that?
<Writinglegend> *some
<Mousebumples> That's possible, I suppose.
* Mousebumples pings Bon, CptCarrot, Crimson, Fajihas, stupid3700, Tim
<Crimson> Sup
<Mousebumples> Any thoughts on the Senate By-Election ?
<Writinglegend> Hey Crimson o/
<Mousebumples> not that WL and i can't talk endlessly, but i figured having more people chime in would be good too :)
<Crimson> \o Hey Writinglegend
<stupid3700> huh?
<Mousebumples> We've got a Senate By-Election on-going
<Mousebumples> any thoughts?
<Crimson> Mousebumples, I don't really have a comment about it. I don't follow politics.
<Mousebumples> fair enough
<Mousebumples> i know it's not for everyone
<Crimson> Is this in RL or is Euro having a senate race?
<Mousebumples> Europeia
<Mousebumples> one of our Senators secured the Vic Presidency in the last election
<Mousebumples> so now we're having a By-Election to fill his seat
<Crimson> Oh, yeah. I don't know anything about Euro's politicians.
<Mousebumples> sorry, crimson - i wasn't sure if you were in euro or not
<Mousebumples> welcome, Fort!
<Crimson> Can guest view the campaign?
<Mousebumples> guest? probably not
<Mousebumples> if you apply for diplomatic status, maybe?
<Fortunado> ohayō gozaimasu
<Mousebumples> i think the oval room has diplomatic access, but i know the voting booth does not
<Mousebumples> polls close later tonight
<Writinglegend> :?)
<Crimson> Who are the candidates, and what do they stand for?
<Crimson> I can give you an opinion off of that.
<Mousebumples> i don't know if it's that simple in euro politics
<Mousebumples> or, at least, not for senate races
<Crimson> We just elect ministers in TSP
<Mousebumples> ah
<Mousebumples> typically, our senate platforms involve reviewing current legislation before the senate (or hot political subjects within the region) and stating opinions on those subjects
<Mousebumples> hey, kraken!
<Kraketopia> I heard there was a discussion of some sort :P
<Kraketopia> Hey Mouse
<Writinglegend> Hey, Kraken.
<Kraketopia> Hey WL
<Mousebumples> crimson, in Europeia, we elect Pres/VP (probably similar to WAD/Vice Delegate ... although the WAD position isn't associated with the Presidency) and also a Senate of at least 5 members
<Mousebumples> but the President then appoints a cabinet of ministers, who are approved/confirmed by the Senate
<Crimson> Sounds like a sound system.
<Mousebumples> haha
<Mousebumples> kraken, any thoughts on the race so far?
<Kraketopia> Well, it's certainly surprising.
<Mousebumples> Currently 9-13, in favor of Cool Spring
<Crimson> In TSP we elect the Delegate+VD as one ticket, then whoever wins office for the ministry of their choice becomes a member of the cabinet
<Kraketopia> Cool Spring has generally been out of favour in the past, but in this election he's really overtaken PASD beyond anyone's expectations
<Kraketopia> I think the fear of PASD is a lack of seeing him as a serious candidate, since in the past year and a half at least, he's never taken on a serious role in Euro.
<Mousebumples> We still have 10 hours left to vote, and the race is definitely close enough to have PASD make a comeback. I hope to see more people voting, but that's just the pro-democracy side of me and less about wanting one candidate or another (specifically) to win.
<Kraketopia> So people are perhaps willing to overlook his greater experience and give Cool Springs a shot, who is clearly serious about the role.
<Kraketopia> I'm not suggesting PASD isn't serious about the role though.
<Mousebumples> That's a very good point, Kraken. And, yes, I agree that PASD is serious about the role. I also wondered above, if there might be some preference to get some newer players involved in Euro politics.
<Mousebumples> As was discussed in various places, there's currently a lot of Senate/Cabinet overlap due to a perceived lack of candidates to work with. We can't make progress in getting new players involved if we won't elect new players to the Senate.
<Mousebumples> Additionally, we have a very experience-heavy Senate right now - you (Kraken), Mal, Drecq, and MacEntire. That could be viewed as a good group of Senators to mix a newer legislator into.
<Kraketopia> Right.
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Mouse, thanks for conducting this. Very informative and entertaining, even after the fact.
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