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Exellence in Governance
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Topic Started: Feb 20 2015, 04:01 AM (304 Views)
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Brunhilde
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Feb 21 2015, 10:39 PM
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Ms. Bombastic
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Sorry, forgot something.
In comparison, you've held similar positions for 350 days. Even if we include your time as an Associate Justice, with terms of 120 days, you only make it to 710 days. 450 fewer days working with law.
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banned)[big Most Influential Gameplayer of 2016[/big][/big] [/center] What others have to say about me: "Brunhilde is best Hilde." - Shin "I fall more in love with you every day." - CSP "If anything Brun is spiderman. Sassy by night and a nerd by day. :P" - Drecq "I have three children and if I can raise just one of them to be more like Brunhilde and less like Sygian I'll consider myself a successful parent." - Scardino "Brunhilde is a rock star." - Skizzy Grey Europeian Awards Order of the Olive Branch for outstanding or distinguished service in foreign affairs.

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Feb 21 2015, 10:44 PM
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Remember when I was famous? Neither do I.
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While quality over quantity is usually my opinion, holy shit. Brun just won.
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me, basically (click)
A letter to a friend By the Prophetical Blessing of Nethel, Supreme Chancellor of the Republic of Europeia and the states within, Destined Overseer of His rightful yet forgotten realms of Estalcia and Old Europe and Crystal Falls, Defender of the Faith and New Jersey, and Heir to the concept of Sarcasm
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Feb 21 2015, 10:48 PM
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Gave Up Being Cool To Be Here
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But there weren't any questions in it, so we might not get an answer
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Feb 21 2015, 10:52 PM
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Yup, because senate and executive expeirnce equals judicial prowess. That assertion from brun is not at all a fallacy. It's also super relevent to his behavior in the confirmation thread and the point of this article.
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The RT. Hon. Notolecta ESE OR1 ESH ESS
Offices held in Europeia Former Senate Speaker Former Associate Justice(5x) Former Senator(5x) Former Minister of Communications Former Chairman of the citizens assembly(2x) Former Attorney General(2x) Former Chief Justice(2x) Former Minister of Interior Former Grand Admiral(2x) Former Mayor of the City Council
Offices held elsewhere Former Senator(exshaw) Former Trial Judge(Exshaw) Former Acting Prime Minister(Exshaw) Former Deputy Prime Minister(Exshaw) Former Minister of Culture(Exshaw) Former Director of Public Relations(Region Inc.) (3x)
Medals, ribbons, and other awards  - Order of Scholarship  - Order of Mercury  - Order of Service to Europeia  - Order of the Sapphire Star  - Order of Community First Class
The best kind of diplomacy - CSP
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Let me make clear the position of the Europeian Republican Navy in this matter. Eat a bag of dicks.
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Feb 21 2015, 11:01 PM
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You're right, Noto. Extensive experience in the Executive and the Senate do not equal judicial prowess. They equal familiarity with the law and an understanding thereof, which goes on to equal the same judicial prowess that you are talking about. I may be mistaken, but the definition of fallacy is "a mistaken belief, especially one based on unsound argument." I don't know about you, Noto, but I see extensive experience working with legislation and around legislation as enough proof to back up my claims of CSP's judicial prowess. If anything, I see your argument with its lack of proof or any definable substance as a fallacy.
Furthermore, I was referencing a single thing that you said which brought up questions about CSP's ability to be a judge. No where did I mention or reference your argument about his behavior in the thread.
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Feb 22 2015, 12:50 AM
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Brunhilde errs when she equates familiarity to specific (but easily learnt at Europeian level) skills. Brunhilde should have made more of a point of his experience as Attorney General. Furthermore, Brunhilde's comments here:
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Extensive experience in the Executive and the Senate do not equal judicial prowess. They equal familiarity with the law and an understanding thereof, which goes on to equal the same judicial prowess that you are talking about.
is logically invalid. Let: E = Extensive experience in the Executive and the Senate J = Judical prowess F = Familarity with the law U = Understanding of the law
!=Negation V=Disjunction &=Conjunction
Premise 1: "Extensive experience in the Executive and the Senate do not equal judicial prowess." E -> !J
Argument 2: E->(F&U) Premise a (F&U)->J Premise b E->J Conclusion of argument 2
Therefore, logically, Brunhilde's argument is invalid.
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Brunhilde
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Feb 22 2015, 12:56 AM
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Brunhilde errs when she equates familiarity to specific (but easily learnt at Europeian level) skills. Brunhilde should have made more of a point of his experience as Attorney General. Furthermore, Brunhilde's comments here: - Quote:
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Extensive experience in the Executive and the Senate do not equal judicial prowess. They equal familiarity with the law and an understanding thereof, which goes on to equal the same judicial prowess that you are talking about.
I won't touch the second part of this. Nope.
I should have clarified my statement. CSP's extensive experience in the positions I reference create a familiarity with the law and the legislative process, thus contributing to a mind that can be considered to be judicially sound in any opinion it makes. I merely did not express it well.
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banned)[big Most Influential Gameplayer of 2016[/big][/big] [/center] What others have to say about me: "Brunhilde is best Hilde." - Shin "I fall more in love with you every day." - CSP "If anything Brun is spiderman. Sassy by night and a nerd by day. :P" - Drecq "I have three children and if I can raise just one of them to be more like Brunhilde and less like Sygian I'll consider myself a successful parent." - Scardino "Brunhilde is a rock star." - Skizzy Grey Europeian Awards Order of the Olive Branch for outstanding or distinguished service in foreign affairs.

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hyanygo
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Feb 22 2015, 01:01 AM
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Can you think of a case where someone can be familiar with the law and the legislative process, yet not function adequately as a Justice? Pez and other early Justices come to mind. Familiarity is operational here in Europeia and the legislative process does not give (many) special insights in how to apply rules to controversies. You may, Brunhilde, argue that it is necessary but you cannot argue that it is sufficient. Your argument, through counterexample, is invalid.
Edited by hyanygo, Feb 22 2015, 01:01 AM.
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