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Why I still believe in the GAP; Opinon
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Topic Started: Dec 15 2014, 05:51 AM (547 Views)
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Dec 16 2014, 12:17 AM
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What is the purpose of the GAP?
In the unlikely but not impossible event a region that has signed a 3 month pact with us goes on to become the next Albion or whatever, what do we gain?
An ally? A rival? I mean what difference does it even make?
The only thing GAP is good for is recruiting the members of the regions that sign up for it, to here.
But having tried it out for however long we have, I can't think of many quality new members to have come from GAP regions, so I'd have to proffer its a very inefficient recruitment tool. Only one forum member currently has the "provisional citizen" mask.
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Dec 16 2014, 12:25 AM
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What is the purpose of the GAP?
In the unlikely but not impossible event a region that has signed a 3 month pact with us goes on to become the next Albion or whatever, what do we gain?
An ally? A rival? Will the pact even make a difference compared to our direct interactions with their leadership? No. I mean honestly what a waste of time.
The only thing GAP is good for is recruiting the members of the regions that sign up for it, to here.
But having tried it out for however long we have, I can't think of many quality new members to have come from GAP regions, so I'd have to proffer its a very inefficient recruitment tool.
It's just a massive gimmick of a scheme, a total red herring. We don't even know what purpose it serves.... Colonialism at its most pretentious. What is the purpose of having ambassadors? What is the purpose of wasting our energy on a foreign update? What do those things do for us? On face value, absolutely nothing.
They help create a Europeian brand, communicate our message to the world and, therefore, expand our influence.
The GAP has the exact same mission, with just a higher threshold of risk and reward.
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Dec 16 2014, 12:40 AM
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What is the purpose of the GAP?
In the unlikely but not impossible event a region that has signed a 3 month pact with us goes on to become the next Albion or whatever, what do we gain?
An ally? A rival? Will the pact even make a difference compared to our direct interactions with their leadership? No. I mean honestly what a waste of time.
The only thing GAP is good for is recruiting the members of the regions that sign up for it, to here.
But having tried it out for however long we have, I can't think of many quality new members to have come from GAP regions, so I'd have to proffer its a very inefficient recruitment tool.
It's just a massive gimmick of a scheme, a total red herring. We don't even know what purpose it serves.... Colonialism at its most pretentious.
What is the purpose of having ambassadors? What is the purpose of wasting our energy on a foreign update? What do those things do for us? On face value, absolutely nothing. They help create a Europeian brand, communicate our message to the world and, therefore, expand our influence. The GAP has the exact same mission, with just a higher threshold of risk and reward. If we could actually make new regions into colonies then great. But we're not even binding these regions into anything. We have no power over them, nothing. And any notion that we do would backfire.
In the unlikely event they do succeed, what would they owe us? Pretty much nothing. And I'm sure they could figure that out for themselves if they did indeed become successful.
You should know that just because we were supportive, that does not translate into gratefulness from a rising power. Indeed, if Europeia were to take such a position that they somehow owed us a debt for their success, it would inevitably lead to resentment. They will look forwards to the day when they can piss down on us.
"If you pick up a starving dog and make him prosperous, he will not bite you. This is the principle difference between a man and a dog" - Mark Twain
I just don't see what the reward is for us. I can see the goal is to make Europeia a sort of fatherly figure amongst regions, and therein to raise our profile above all other regions.
I just think the whole notion of this program is so pretentious that it can't possibly work. The whole program stinks of grandiosity - from concept to name.
We're an impressive region with a storied history and an unequaled record in many areas, but we're not perfect - and there is simply no reason why any other successful region will ever give us this cultural patriarchy you desire. It is an unobtainable, and quite frankly, undesirable, goal.
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Dec 16 2014, 02:08 AM
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Some of us forget this, but Europeia is more than just a game.
It is a community and some people do take it quite seriously.
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Dec 16 2014, 02:54 AM
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Some of us forget this, but Europeia is more than just a game.
It is a community and some people do take it quite seriously. Whats that supposed to mean, and how is it relevant to GAP?
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Curriculum vitae ACCEL: Former Secretary of Foreign Affairs and Intelligence Director.
Albion: Earl Marshall of the Royal Albion Legion. Former Sheriff of Bowerstone and Administrator.
Asgard: Former Duke of Freyja and Administrator.
Balder: Crown Prince and Vice Delegate. Administrator. Former Delegate, Foreign Minister and Security Minister.
Empires of Earth: Former Defence Minister.
Europeia: Director of the Europeian Intelligence Agency. Administrator. Former President, Vice President, Vice Chancellor, Senator, Grand Admiral and Foreign Minister.
GB&I: King. Lord of Ireland. Lord High Admiral of the Fleet. Director of the Royal Intelligence Agency. Administrator. Former Prime Minister, Foreign Minister, MP and Commander.
Lazarus: Former Foreign Secretary and Emerald Councillor.
LKE: Lord High Steward. Director General of the Imperial Intelligence Agency. Earl. Administrator. Former Crown Prince, Foreign Minister, Defence Minister and Deputy Prime Minister.
Osiris: Former Scribe of Intelligence and Security, and Administrator.
SRATO: Former General Secretary.
The Kodiak Republic: Former Foreign Minister and MP.
TNI: Administrator and Executive Director of Intelligence. Former Crown Prince, Reich Elector, Deputy Reich Chancellor, Chief Justice, Foreign Minister, MP and Commander.
UIAF: Former Associate Commander. Character references "NES is hard." - Earth22, Pillar of Society.
"NES: A bastard in all his magnificence."- Julian Anumia, General pervert.
"NES touches me in ways no other man can." - Cerebella, Wise statesman.
"NES is a gaylord." - Michael the Great Man, Inactive Royalist Guy.
"NES, I love you in that platonic sort of way." - Heras Savaer, Top Banana in Unknown.
"NES is the kind of guy who puts out the cigar on your ass when he's finished." - Seymour, My Favourite Ashtray.
"Who needs a husband, when NES is your daddy." - Florence, My Model Daughter.
"NES makes it hard for me" - Rachel Anumia, Ms Hawt Stuff
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Cordova I
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Dec 16 2014, 03:05 AM
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Some of us forget this, but Europeia is more than just a game.
It is a community and some people do take it quite seriously.
Whats that supposed to mean, and how is it relevant to GAP? It's not relevant to GAP. It's a side note because the opinion that this is just a game was mentioned before. I disagree with that.
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Dec 16 2014, 03:32 AM
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Whats that supposed to mean, and how is it relevant to GAP?
It's not relevant to GAP. It's a side note because the opinion that this is just a game was mentioned before. I disagree with that. Yes and no. Yes, this is "more than just a game," in the sense that we have a sense of community here.
However, if you (or anyone) mean that "it's more than just a game" and that people should be skipping sleep, classes, work, etc., to do XYZ Project That Has Been Assigned to them ... that's insane.
RL comes first - and should come first. I don't think any of us want to hear of our regionmate who lost their job, flunked out of college, was hospitalized for exhaustion, etc., because they spent too much time on NS.
That's my take at least. I miss everyone that I make friends with through this game that goes on to RL business with something else, somewhere else. But I'm sure they know that they'll always be welcome to come back when RL affords them the time to do so in the future. (*waves at Vinage* ;))
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Cordova I
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Dec 16 2014, 03:38 AM
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Of course, RL should come first. Everything in moderation.
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Rotovian Regional Affairs
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Dec 16 2014, 03:49 AM
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Does the GAP have any gameplay value, in the experience of people who have been here for long enough to see it play out? I mean there is no purpose in me writing up the hansard of Rotovian senate committees that ratify treaties, on the face of it, but I enjoy it (because I'm weird like that).
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