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Inappropriate Conduct has no place in Euro; Can we not tell new members this?
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Topic Started: Sep 2 2014, 06:01 AM (849 Views)
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Rach
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Sep 2 2014, 06:01 AM
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A few years ago now, HEM wrote an article discussing how NationStates had changed and in particular how the separation between player and person had eroded. Essentially meaning that players were less and less playing a character and increasingly playing themselves. This was leading a different sort of politics and a different sort of game. Especially one that older players who still played as separated characters were struggling with.
At this time, this trend of the persona of a character being the character itself rather than a sort of fabrication has become ever and ever more prevalent. While there are of course pros and cons to this, the greatest challenge is that the politics can become more heated, more personal and more destructive.
Of particular concern to me, is the message we are sending to newer members with our behaviour. Are messages like the following:
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[10:23:17 PM] modernsin: Haley I hope you're a lesbian, because you're marrying a human cunt.
What we wish to be sending to people new to Europeia? Personally, I find how seriously people are taking make-belief marriages in NationStates to be off-putting as well as dangerous. This is a game after all and with a roleplay aspect that at its lightest has no feelings at all and is simply political or for fun, people need to be careful. With such a wide spectrum of views and beliefs with regards to marriages, people can get hurt and take things far too seriously for their own good. That is something no one wants to see.
I simply think as a whole we should endeavour not to make things personal and to not cross boundaries that were never meant to be crossed with regards to personal conduct.
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Anumia
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Sep 2 2014, 06:02 AM
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That quote. Wow.
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Sep 2 2014, 06:03 AM
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I couldn't agree more Rach.
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Sep 2 2014, 06:06 AM
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Good message, and tasteful use of MS quote.
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Sep 2 2014, 06:09 AM
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It's interesting that you point this out, and I agree. It's why I'm not friends with NSers on Facebook, people don't have my phone number, etc. I treat NS and RL as nearly completely separate, but it's difficult to do so when others increasingly do not.
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Sep 2 2014, 06:10 AM
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I loled really hard.
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Sep 2 2014, 06:11 AM
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To be blunt, that is a fucked up thing to say to someone.
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Rach
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Sep 2 2014, 06:15 AM
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- Sep 2 2014, 06:09 AM
It's interesting that you point this out, and I agree. It's why I'm not friends with NSers on Facebook, people don't have my phone number, etc. I treat NS and RL as nearly completely separate, but it's difficult to do so when others increasingly do not. In a sense, NationStates becomes more like social media than a game. I don't think I'm completely separate, but I think I'm a bit more in the middle of the range.
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Sep 2 2014, 06:20 AM
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To be blunt, that is a fucked up thing to say to someone. I agree, but it's not exactly out of character for MS, and I think it's being interpreted more harshly than it was intended. Nonetheless, inappropriate.
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Sep 2 2014, 06:33 AM
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Sep 2 2014, 08:40 AM
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As far as possible, without surrender, be on good terms with all persons. Speak your truth quietly and clearly; and listen to others, even to the dull and the ignorant; they too have their story. Avoid loud and aggressive persons; they are vexatious to the spirit.
If you compare yourself with others, you may become vain or bitter, for always there will be greater and lesser persons than yourself. Enjoy your achievements as well as your plans. Keep interested in your own career, however humble; it is a real possession in the changing fortunes of time.
Exercise caution in your business affairs, for the world is full of trickery. But let this not blind you to what virtue there is; many persons strive for high ideals, and everywhere life is full of heroism. Be yourself. Especially do not feign affection. Neither be cynical about love, for in the face of all aridity and disenchantment, it is as perennial as the grass.
Take kindly the counsel of the years, gracefully surrendering the things of youth. Nurture strength of spirit to shield you in sudden misfortune. But do not distress yourself with dark imaginings. Many fears are born of fatigue and loneliness.
Beyond a wholesome discipline, be gentle with yourself. You are a child of the universe no less than the trees and the stars; you have a right to be here. And whether or not it is clear to you, no doubt the universe is unfolding as it should.
Therefore be at peace with God, whatever you conceive Him to be. And whatever your labors and aspirations, in the noisy confusion of life, keep peace in your soul.
With all its sham, drudgery, and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world. Be cheerful. Strive to be happy. - By Max Ehrmann The Thousanth Man ~ Rudyard Kipling 0NE man in a thousand, Solomon says. Will stick more close than a brother. And it's worth while seeking him half your days If you find him before the other. Nine hundred and ninety-nine depend On what the world sees in you, But the Thousandth Man will stand your friend With the whole round world agin you.
'Tis neither promise nor prayer nor show Will settle the finding for 'ee. Nine hundred and ninety-nine of 'em go By your looks, or your acts, or your glory.
But if he finds you and you find him, The rest of the world don't matter; For the Thousandth Man will sink or swim With you in any water.
You can use his purse with no more talk Than he uses yours for his spendings, And laugh and meet in your daily walk As though there had been no lendings.
Nine hundred and ninety-nine of 'em call For silver and gold in their dealings; But the Thousandth Man he's worth 'em all Because you can show him your feelings.
His wrong's your wrong, and his right's your right, In season or out of season. Stand up and back it in all men's sight With that for your only reason!
Nine hundred and ninety-nine can't bide The shame or mocking or laughter, But the Thousandth Man will stand by your side To the gallows-foot - and after!
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Sep 2 2014, 09:10 AM
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So... not to miss the point entirely - but who is Haley marrying?
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Sep 2 2014, 09:13 AM
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So... not to miss the point entirely - but who is Haley marrying?  A man whos been single for 10 days after a 5 month marriage...
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Sep 2 2014, 09:50 AM
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Reminds me of when you divorced Charlotte...
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Signature The One. The Allfather.-- "He stood with his head held high, critics screaming, and did what he truly felt was best for Europeia." - Common-Sense Politics He's the only person in NationStates who can successfully combine outrageous pomposity with a real support for democracy. - Indycar Racing Do I really need to talk about Anumia? The guy can write like Shakespeare, think like Socrates, and I learned on EuroChat yesterday that he can sing too. I bet he's hung like a bull moose. - Common-Sense Politics Anumia, you have a great mind. - Lethen Someone like Anumia only comes around once in a while. - Kabanatuanistan To be perfectly honest, I'm just going to trust Anumia and approve - Falconias I saw your amendment and wondered whether I had died and gone to heaven. It's beautiful. - Swakistek This is why we should all listen to Anumia. Clearly he is a god amongst men. - Fortana | You are not all knowing. You are not all powerful. You are not Anumia. - Griff I have the greatest respect for Anumia - don't let this thread fool you - but I wish he'd stop winning. - Hyanygo Actually, Hy, the things I wanted to say were: Go Anumia! I love Anumia! - Lethen Anumia with whatever power I have I hereby declare you the winner of everything, forever. - Fortana Long live the Emperor! All Hail Anumia, King of Kings! - Peaceful Llamas How about we realize democracy here is flawed and we make Anumia our dictator? - karthikking I agree with you, Anumia, as all Europeians should. - Swakistek To be honest I'm just going to vote whatever way Anumia votes. - Fortana |
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Olde Delaware: AE, The Devil's Game, SPC, NS says (7:36 AM): I need you Sai'on'ay the Light Elf (Shower) says (7:37 AM): For? Olde Delaware: AE, The Devil's Game, SPC, NS says (7:37 AM): an Anumia vs Anumia debate  Olde Delaware: AE, The Devil's Game, SPC, NS says (7:38 AM): Were doing a 4 part debating series with Europeia and Rougiers brought up doing a "Anumia vs Anumia" debate I want you to be our Anumia
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Drop dead, Dre.
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You think I fact-check the shit I say? 
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Cpt.Carrot
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Sep 2 2014, 11:25 AM
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Reminds me of when you divorced Charlotte... I forgot about that. Didn't she marry Svunbrink immediately after the divorce?
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Drummer Captain Carrot!  "Though I try to cheer my comrades and be gay." HEM be sillyMy reputation & other quotes That's right Hodge-podge of stuff Some funny things that caught my attention - Lao-Tzu
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It is only when you see a mosquito landing on your testicles that you come to realize that there can be value in solving problems without using violence
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"Tell me, is there anything worn under the kilt?" "No, lassie, it's all in good working order!"
Motivations Desiderata ~ By Max Ehrmann Go placidly amid the noise and the haste, and remember what peace there may be in silence.
As far as possible, without surrender, be on good terms with all persons. Speak your truth quietly and clearly; and listen to others, even to the dull and the ignorant; they too have their story. Avoid loud and aggressive persons; they are vexatious to the spirit.
If you compare yourself with others, you may become vain or bitter, for always there will be greater and lesser persons than yourself. Enjoy your achievements as well as your plans. Keep interested in your own career, however humble; it is a real possession in the changing fortunes of time.
Exercise caution in your business affairs, for the world is full of trickery. But let this not blind you to what virtue there is; many persons strive for high ideals, and everywhere life is full of heroism. Be yourself. Especially do not feign affection. Neither be cynical about love, for in the face of all aridity and disenchantment, it is as perennial as the grass.
Take kindly the counsel of the years, gracefully surrendering the things of youth. Nurture strength of spirit to shield you in sudden misfortune. But do not distress yourself with dark imaginings. Many fears are born of fatigue and loneliness.
Beyond a wholesome discipline, be gentle with yourself. You are a child of the universe no less than the trees and the stars; you have a right to be here. And whether or not it is clear to you, no doubt the universe is unfolding as it should.
Therefore be at peace with God, whatever you conceive Him to be. And whatever your labors and aspirations, in the noisy confusion of life, keep peace in your soul.
With all its sham, drudgery, and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world. Be cheerful. Strive to be happy. - By Max Ehrmann The Thousanth Man ~ Rudyard Kipling 0NE man in a thousand, Solomon says. Will stick more close than a brother. And it's worth while seeking him half your days If you find him before the other. Nine hundred and ninety-nine depend On what the world sees in you, But the Thousandth Man will stand your friend With the whole round world agin you.
'Tis neither promise nor prayer nor show Will settle the finding for 'ee. Nine hundred and ninety-nine of 'em go By your looks, or your acts, or your glory.
But if he finds you and you find him, The rest of the world don't matter; For the Thousandth Man will sink or swim With you in any water.
You can use his purse with no more talk Than he uses yours for his spendings, And laugh and meet in your daily walk As though there had been no lendings.
Nine hundred and ninety-nine of 'em call For silver and gold in their dealings; But the Thousandth Man he's worth 'em all Because you can show him your feelings.
His wrong's your wrong, and his right's your right, In season or out of season. Stand up and back it in all men's sight With that for your only reason!
Nine hundred and ninety-nine can't bide The shame or mocking or laughter, But the Thousandth Man will stand by your side To the gallows-foot - and after!
"Get these Motherfucking Anumias out of my Motherfucking region!" - Noto, whilst operating heavy weaponry during the June 2016 Civil War
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