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Lazarus Purges Forum Owner
Topic Started: Aug 25 2014, 01:33 AM (384 Views)
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In its efforts not to look like the oppressive dictatorship many have accused it of being, Lazarus is in the process of purging the host of their forums. After Hobbes made fairly supportive comments about independentism, Funkedelia moved unilaterally to amend the constitution in order to change forums and remove Hobbes as the host. This represents but the latest of moves by Lazarus in order to stamp out any hint of ideological differences, in particular sympathy with independents and democracy.

Furthermore, a former citizen of Lazarus discussed in length in a regional newspaper how Lazarus had been engaging in the suppression of forum posts via their destruction as well as the ejection of Funkadelia's Vice Llamas for supporting democracy. Now, it has been stated by Government members of Lazarus that this was done because they were operating in secret. However, a current and long-term citizen of the region had something else to say:

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I'm fed up with the political bull**** in Laz though. I've been a citizen of Lazarus for quite a long time now. I've always enjoyed the region, and the people in it. But these recent events are nothing but outright political bull****. Several citizens were all but absolutely forced to leave because they advocated for more democracy and although the official line was "It was because it was done in secret", they actually were operating quite plainly. They were ultimately shown the door simply because they didn't conform to the chairman


What has become increasingly clear, is that Osiris' deliberations on declaring war with Lazarus has brought a spotlight to a region whose leaders actions have previously gone unnoticed. It is a regime which is squandering its potential by engaging in political actions that are geared towards reducing diversity and removing young members from government with differing opinions. These are all geared towards political dominance and authoritarianism rather than the pledged "benevolent dictatorship" promised by its constitution. A dictatorship based on imposing fear and paranoia and the suppression of the "communitys popular will" despite this popular will being a key part in the constitution.

Milograds revolution has taken a rather unfortunate and frightful turn for the citizenry of Lazarus.
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For the record, the ROOT of the old forum is still a Citizen and hasn't been asked to leave, or banned, to my knowledge.
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Aug 25 2014, 01:48 AM
For the record, the ROOT of the old forum is still a Citizen and hasn't been asked to leave, or banned, to my knowledge.
So yeah. Lazarus hasn't asked the root of the old forum to leave or be banned yet. So you know... improvement. Because asking people to leave or be banned is a very normal way of running a region.
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Aug 25 2014, 01:50 AM
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Aug 25 2014, 01:48 AM
For the record, the ROOT of the old forum is still a Citizen and hasn't been asked to leave, or banned, to my knowledge.
So yeah. Lazarus hasn't asked the root of the old forum to leave or be banned yet. So you know... improvement. Because asking people to leave or be banned is a very normal way of running a region.
I was talking about the title of the Topic, which is factually incorrect. But good try.
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Aug 25 2014, 01:51 AM
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Aug 25 2014, 01:50 AM
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Aug 25 2014, 01:48 AM
For the record, the ROOT of the old forum is still a Citizen and hasn't been asked to leave, or banned, to my knowledge.
So yeah. Lazarus hasn't asked the root of the old forum to leave or be banned yet. So you know... improvement. Because asking people to leave or be banned is a very normal way of running a region.
I was talking about the title of the Topic, which is factually incorrect. But good try.
i must have missed the part where I said root in the forum title... so nice try?

We could also give Lazarus a medal for not purging it's root admin.
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Aug 25 2014, 01:53 AM
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Aug 25 2014, 01:51 AM
Rach
Aug 25 2014, 01:50 AM
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Aug 25 2014, 01:48 AM
For the record, the ROOT of the old forum is still a Citizen and hasn't been asked to leave, or banned, to my knowledge.
So yeah. Lazarus hasn't asked the root of the old forum to leave or be banned yet. So you know... improvement. Because asking people to leave or be banned is a very normal way of running a region.
I was talking about the title of the Topic, which is factually incorrect. But good try.
i must have missed the part where I said root in the forum title... so nice try?

We could also give Lazarus a medal for not purging it's root admin.
Hobbes and Milograd owned the forum. Hobbes was the ROOT admin. Hobbes is still a citizen and was not banned or purged from the region. Lazarus is in the middle of switching forums. The title "Lazarus Purges Forum Owner" is incorrect. Lazarus did not purge it's forum owner in any way as he is still a member of the region, just not an Admin. It's within the Chairman's right to change administrators or the Forum.

Do you have any idea what you're saying?
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Things that Hobbes hasn't refuted when asked about it. So it's not incorrect Apollo. This also isn't simply things that I'm stating, I was encouraged by both current and former citizens of Lazarus to write this article.

EDIT: Obviously not members of Lazarus engaging or complicit in the intimidation of other members or who run around defending Lazarus zealously on other forums but members nonetheless.
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Aug 25 2014, 02:08 AM
Things that Hobbes hasn't refuted when asked about it. So it's not incorrect Apollo. This also isn't simply things that I'm stating, I was encouraged by both current and former citizens of Lazarus to write this article.
Hobbes only hasn't commented on why he was removed, for reasons that don't necessarily have to be explained. But he is in no way no longer a part of the region or has been asked to leave or has been force-ably removed, thus not being purged from the region as you have said. You will always be my first independent newsource I will contact in the future, as well.
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That wasn't the feeling I got from people. Amending the constitution unilaterally in order to remove the host seems fairly forceable to me.
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How can you seriously justify this Apollo.

You'd be shouting from the rooftops here if the Head of Government unilaterally amended the Constitution. It's totally undemocratic.

But it's okay cause it's Lazarus?

What have they brainwashed you with?
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The Chair can change the constitution because nothing says he cannot.. I pray that if such an oversight was made in Europeia that the courts would shut down that 'logic' and return power to the 'sovereign' (as we debated for a good 30 minutes today on #panel !

Edit: Please NES, Hy don't derail this with discussion of who is sovereign in euro.. :P
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Apollo is being Cormac when Cormac is being bad :P
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How can you seriously justify this Apollo.

You'd be shouting from the rooftops here if the Head of Government unilaterally amended the Constitution. It's totally undemocratic.

But it's okay cause it's Lazarus?

What have they brainwashed you with?
I think it can be established the Constitutions of Europeia and Lazarus are different.

I'm in a different region where I could care less if there was democracy or not (mostly because I agreed to join the region under these pretenses), there are ways to get rid of a Chairman if he is completely abusing his powers. If the current Chairman just banned everyone, deleted the forum and did whatever he wanted, he wouldn't be a leader as he would have no followers. I believe they call that "just a guy taking a walk" in which case I'd be all for someone taking over the Delegacy.

and arsenic, NES, arsenic. :P
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Aug 25 2014, 02:28 AM
If the current Chairman just banned everyone, deleted the forum and did whatever he wanted, he wouldn't be a leader as he would have no followers.
I dont know I think there would still be followers if he did 'whatever he wants.' After all, you joined the region under the premise that it's not a democracy. :wink:
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How can you seriously justify this Apollo.

You'd be shouting from the rooftops here if the Head of Government unilaterally amended the Constitution. It's totally undemocratic.

But it's okay cause it's Lazarus?

What have they brainwashed you with?
I think it can be established the Constitutions of Europeia and Lazarus are different.

I'm in a different region where I could care less if there was democracy or not (mostly because I agreed to join the region under these pretenses), there are ways to get rid of a Chairman if he is completely abusing his powers. If the current Chairman just banned everyone, deleted the forum and did whatever he wanted, he wouldn't be a leader as he would have no followers. I believe they call that "just a guy taking a walk" in which case I'd be all for someone taking over the Delegacy.

and arsenic, NES, arsenic. :P
Arsenic makes you into a power hungry unprincipled minion of a defender dictatorship?

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