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Political Parties Threaten Status Quo; Real once More
Topic Started: Aug 7 2014, 02:22 AM (552 Views)
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Also it's not an original idea, and I'm not a member of the opposite party. Nor do I think there's much positive coming from them right now, but they're not the ones pursuing what I consider very unethical behaviour at present.
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Lets stop right there with the unconstitutional and the democracy and republic bits. There is no country (democracy, republic or otherwise) that has a constitution that is not sometimes in some ways restricted. Rights are never unlimited. And there are a lot of good reasons to limit rights sometimes. Protection of others is one of the most basic principle reasons ever given. Just because in this case you disagree with it dont make it unconstitutional or undemocratic.
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As far as I am concerned, since I know about psycolodgy etc...

I've never heard of it before. What's psycolodgy? It sounds dodgy...

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This scandal as you call it, is nothing else, than just another problematic drama, that will influence the hole Europeia and it's balancies...with bullshit! Yes, I said it!

Europeia is not a hole. And it is not filled with bullshit....

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In NationStates we recieve dousens of recruiting messages, did you see anyone complain...? NO!

Umm, people complain a lot about the current state of recruitment in NationStates. I've literally complained twice today.

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So why should we wine about one guy or girl that complaint about a political message, when after all its everybody's right, to promote it's group of folks in the way the like...
Since no political harm was done to the opposite parties or the policies of Europeia...stop WINING!

I'm not sure if you think Europeia is like a California or France when it comes to Wine making. But I can assure you that no one produces Wine in Europeia. Also, the correct word for the production of Wine is not Wining. Generally, you just produce Wine.
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Well since we don't have a constitution or a Democracy here...what is it that we have...cause if my eyes don't lie me..
I see amendments around...right? right? For what are we voting then, since there's no Democracy here?

And actually...what harm was made...did that person die after he/she recieved a recruiting message? I hope he/she is doing alright now!
Guys seriously, why are you exaggerating things? It was one message, and one complaint!
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Well since we don't have a constitution

Constitution V

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It was one message, and one complaint

Actually.... it was a multiple amount of messages and more than one complaint.
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Aug 7 2014, 04:02 PM
It's totally YOUR OPINION.
Your rhetoric needs a lot of work. First, don't caps words, second, don't ever say that phrase that I quoted, because you will lose any respect anyone had to begin with. Saying "It's just, like, your opinion" is stupid. That's what we're debating here, ideas and opinions, so saying that is completely pointless. If you can't speak properly please cease any political campaigns and stop attempting to debate until you can.

As for the main subject, for me political parties are divisive and just silly. They pit two sides and no one ever wins because everyone becomes so entrenched in their positions and old grudges it's impossible to ever make any actual debates possible. The only way is for each and every presidential candidate to present themselves as individuals, maybe naming their cabinet members, but not choosing any legislature members' side or drawing clear lines. This ensures that candidates remain flexible and that they will actually change to the overall popular opinion instead of being able to rely on a certain group to always back them up because then this allows people to abuse power.
I signed up for a political party earlier because Rach convinced me, but I never intended to actually do anything within the party, and if I don't leave the region I'll be withdrawing my membership. This region would fare better if political parties don't exist.

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What? Speak english man. There is no one here who said we dont have a democracy. We all know we have a constitution. This isnt a vote, this is a private newspaper. And just because you liked it doesnt mean everyone else does. And if one person complained then chances are more thought it bad but didnt. Newcomers dont complain in general. They just leave if they dont like it.
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@Alterra: How did I convince you to join? :P

You told me you hated parties! xD
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Aug 7 2014, 04:13 PM
And actually...what harm was made...did that person die after he/she recieved a recruiting message? I hope he/she is doing alright now!
Guys seriously, why are you exaggerating things? It was one message, and one complaint!
...and you talk of exaggeration :P
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Well since you guys don't understand me, I like the way you all are trying to talk me off..
Now as it comes to you Alterra, nice to see you back...but I am not going to give you any undeserving attention...since it has to do with opinion...that is my opinion, you like it or not :)
As it comes to my grammar mistakes...Well I don't really care if I wrote a word wrong or right... When I put my point out...I simply don't care about anything else
And Drecq, before you tell me about my English....Please respond to my message... :) What harm was made to the guy that recieved the recruiting message ? :)
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And actually...what harm was made...did that person die after he/she recieved a recruiting message? I hope he/she is doing alright now!
Guys seriously, why are you exaggerating things? It was one message, and one complaint!
...and you talk of exaggeration :P
Well I know right...I had to do that...wanted to give emphasys :P
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Ladies and gentleman. Exhibit A as to why we should not allow the recruitment of people right into political parties and why we should give them time to develop as players first.
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Ouch
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_burn_centers_in_the_United_States

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Just for you information sugar...I am not a young player in NS...
And before you show me as an example here...Prove me wrong ;)
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Not sure where I called you a young player.
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