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| Calvin Coolidge | Aug 4 2014, 10:02 PM Post #1 |
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When I travel abroad, the first thing I always do, besides getting my shots (can't trust those dirty foreigners to not be carrying the plague) is to find my nation's embassy. While I'm there, I feel safe, because I have free reign to do whatever I want. Yes, I sit around naked, using my nether regions to play billiards, while chatting up the ambassador that represents me. In hindsight, I probably should have worn a cup. They don't call me Calvin "Got Kicked in the Balls by an Ambassador" Coolidge for nothing, after all. Recently, word has come out of the Octagon that the ERN has raided Canada, a region we have had an embassy with for six years, making it one of our oldest embassies. Naturally, there's a lot of issues with this invasion, that Europeians are angrily protesting. However, before we get into that, let's understand this act, concerned with such a vital part of this issue. This act's goal is, as it states, "to promote formality and due diligence in regard to the creation, maintenance, and removal of embassies in and of Europeia". This is soon followed by a few disclaimers, that state
It'd probably be a good idea to keep those in mind when we discuss the Canada issue. The first section of the act that we'd like to focus on are the definitions, aptly put under the title, "Definitions". It is important to establish these beforehand, as I well know. I can't even tell you how many times I've had to correct someone who defines Taylor Swift as a pop singer, when she is clearly a pop/country singer (I've corrected people 22 times). With that in mind, let's examine these sections.
So, off-site is on a forum, and on-site in on NationStates. Not too tough to remember. However, if you find yourself forgetting which is which, just think of it like this: off-site has an f, for forum, and on-site has an n, for NationStates. If you like to remember things in a more exciting manner, think of it like this: I get off on forums, while NationStates turns me on. Let's talk about the off-site embassies first, because that is what comes first in the act, under the appropriately titled section, "Off-Site Embassies"
This makes it seem pretty easy to get this kind of embassy, actually. All you have to do is request it, then get the approval of one person, either the President or an appointed deputy. Kind of like on Halloween, where you ask one person to either give you candy or suffer the consequences, except you are asking one person to give you an embassy... or suffer the consequences. Moving on to on-site embassies, under the title "On-Site Embassies"
Clearly, this is the tougher embassy to achieve. Approval must be granted from two sources now, instead of one, and you must already have an off-site forum to receive approval. Using my Halloween example from earlier, it would be as if I went to somebody's door asking for candy, and they told me I would only get candy if someone else in their house agreed it would be a good idea to give me candy, and I had to have stopped by their house last year, as well. Eventually, I decided it was too much trouble, so I made him suffer the consequences and junk-punched the man where he stood, but that's not the point. The point is, that's the end of the act. So, now we are free to move on to greener pastures, or, knowing Canada, moose pastures. On August 2, Grand Admiral Common-Sense Politics released a short statement that the ERN has pledged reinforcements to UIAF, and its allies, after they seized the delegacy of the region Canada. Almost immediately, Europeians began to protest, most visible was Ogastein, new Minister of Foreign Cultivation and Canada native. He was outraged that the ERN "tricked" Canada, and felt that embassies represented friendship, and that act was a betrayal of that friendship. CSP defended the ERN's actions by saying that this raid helps Europeia, as we would get more sway with UIAF, since we helped them out with this, and pointed out that we have no treaty with Canada that would mean this action is forbidden. Associate Justice OnderKelkia weighed in, saying that Canada had ties to defender regions, which operate against UIAF interests, and therefore action had to be taken, to test Canada's neutrality. Others worried that this sends our allies a negative message, that we could attack any of our allies, regardless of whether they have an embassy with us, or for how long. HEM gave another view, when he said that any region that has an embassy with us must know that we have an active military that conducts raids, and any region that has a problem with that should reconsider their relationship with us. Meanwhile, Calvin Coolidge would like to add that Canada's got 99 problems, but a moose ain't one. All of these viewpoints have been clashing for the past few days, with little resolution coming out of it. A discussion thread was opened in the Grand Hall over the "Value of the Navy" and CSP received a "Nay" in his re-confirmation vote, so far the only Minister from this current bunch to receive one. Regardless of which opinion comes out on top, this discussion is providing us with a lot of information on a topic that doesn't usually receive much light, being the ERN. Hopefully, we all come out of this a littler wiser about this subject, and more willing to discuss such an important topic. To conclude, this act deals with the formalities of setting up and taking down both off-site and on-site embassies, providing a good lead-in to our discussion on the recent raid of Canada. I hope this article has provided some good information, but, as always, I encourage those who want to find out more to look at the Law Index, or to check out the topic in the Octagon, "Get Ready for Some Contraversy". Until next time, this is Calvin Coolidge, looking for a good jockstrap. |
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| Common-Sense Politics | Aug 4 2014, 11:36 PM Post #2 |
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Let's not characterize the nay vote as a reflection on the Canada "issue". Zenny didn't like that I didn't want to spend my day in the Senate chit-chatting with her. |
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| Zenny Winter | Aug 4 2014, 11:47 PM Post #3 |
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I voted Nay because you seemed to act like you could waltz through the confirmation hearings and didn't care at all. Asking for detailed answers and asking good questions is (I think) my bloody job as a Senator and its your job as an appointee to answer my questions to my satisfaction. Everyone else did except you. I also strongly disapprove of your actions in taking part in the Canada operation, and because of your answer to my question regarding it, I voted Nay on your confirmation. I was disappointed that no other Senators felt the same way on the matter nor did they care that you seemed to act like you run the place. |
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| Common-Sense Politics | Aug 5 2014, 12:11 AM Post #4 |
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So you voted based on your personal opinion of my attitude. Impressive, Senator. |
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| McEntire | Aug 5 2014, 12:15 AM Post #5 |
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Zenny voted based on your conduct in the thread, which is perfectly acceptable. If a Senator feels that their questions haven't been answered in a satisfactory way, it's their prerogative to vote based on that. It's also your prerogative to act like a dick and take your NAYs like a man. Unless your ego demands unanimous affirmation, that is.
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| Common-Sense Politics | Aug 5 2014, 12:19 AM Post #6 |
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Not at all. I invited her to vote nay and was much amused by it. I don't take myself or you people's perception of me very seriously. |
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| PhDre | Aug 5 2014, 12:24 AM Post #7 |
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Just like CSP was perhaps rude with his responses, Zenny was frivolous with her opportunity to ask questions of the Candidates - asking why the chicken crossed the road will at the wrong time and place (which I would argue a confirmation hearing is) will sometimes have people not taking you very seriously. |
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| McEntire | Aug 5 2014, 12:37 AM Post #8 |
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Ruling whether or not Zenny's questions were frivolous or not should fall to the public, not to the Ministerial appointee, and certainly not during a confirmation hearing. My expectation of Zenny's conduct has no bearing on my expectation of CSP's conduct. Furthermore, let's not pretend this is the first time this has happened to CSP. |
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| Apollo | Aug 5 2014, 12:38 AM Post #9 |
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Dre hit the nail on the head. While CSP was brief, Zenny was a tad annoying. |
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| Zenny Winter | Aug 5 2014, 12:52 AM Post #10 |
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It was meant to be a joke -_- I thought it was obvious and I was trying to make it not overly-serious and tense :/ Am I really going to take heat for a joke meant to lighten the mood? |
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| Zenny Winter | Aug 5 2014, 12:53 AM Post #11 |
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Wow. Ok next time Ill just say "No questions, all Aye" and not do my job. Wow. I thought maybe for once Id done a good fucking job. |
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| Apollo | Aug 5 2014, 01:00 AM Post #12 |
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Don't let this get away from you - I think you asked two good questions that needed to be asked. The answers received gave the public a lot of insight on what each minister planned on doing and how much they had conversed with the President on their plan. Your questions lead to further questions had for other candidates, especially Imperium, because the answers pointed out a lack of communication and understanding between him and the President. It's best to realize in some situations CSP can kind of be a dick and just leave it alone because we have no other GA option.
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| PhDre | Aug 5 2014, 01:05 AM Post #13 |
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I dont think your two questions were poor at all - or that you should rubber stamp. I was happy to see you comment / ask questions. However, yes your last question was frivolous, and Mc I agree CSP should answer her questions but if she asks Why did the chicken cross the road I expect CSP to use some judgement and not feel obligated to respond to something like that. That's all. Not to mention that some of the reason why CSP has acted like this and will continue to act like this is that there really aren't many if any people who can do the GA job besides him |
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| McEntire | Aug 5 2014, 01:10 AM Post #14 |
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That's fair. I'm not saying he isn't good at his job, either. I just think someone should say something at some point. Also, we should get more people who could be GA. |
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| modernsin | Aug 5 2014, 01:18 AM Post #15 |
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Is nobody else reminded of last term's Cabinet nominations, where almost the exact same thing happened with Kraken's first GA pick? Cormac went on the warpath after SD's responses to his questions were, according to Cormac, not up to par. Some choice quotes that have some resonance here: "The fact is that Seven Deaths has been combative and uncooperative under Senate scrutiny." "I urge President Kraketopia to withdraw and replace his nomination for Grand Admiral in light of his nominee's lack of cooperation toward the Senate." Europeia. Europeia never changes.
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