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Zenny & Charlotte Accusations Dangerous
Topic Started: Jul 26 2014, 05:27 AM (318 Views)
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There is a line of thought currently being expressed by high ranking members of DAF; that Europeia is a family dynasty. Such thoughts, seem innocent at first but if taken seriously they are a serious accusation against our democracy. They are telling us that our democracy is not one in which those who are felt to be best at roles are placed in cabinet. Rather, that our government is simply one of family ties and that families are run as a pseudo political party.

These accusations erode the confidence in the integrity of the system and are telling us that our government is a place of mass corruption. Furthermore, these accusations tell us that voting is corrupt as well and that candidates such as Kraketopia have been elected previously not based on their merits but rather based on their family ties. Not based on Kraketopias work in the region and his successes in a variety of fields, or his quick ascent into politics but rather on who he knows.

Such accusations have no place in our society, we are a society based on a mixture of meritocracy as well as popularity. Our region is one of the best when it comes to it's cold political that operates at such a level as to necessitate the best. Could you imagine a President appointing a weaker Minister because of family ties? To suggest such self-inflicted sabotage is bizarre. The margins are razor thin and a President must do what he must do in order to have as much success as possible.

One of the biggest differences between the stable democracies and the unstable democracies is the quality and respect people have for the institutions. People do not hold on to power, or refuse to believe election results and people do not corrupt the system on the scale seen in unstable democracies. I do not want to see the level of political rhetoric in the region reduced to accusations for the sake of political desperation.

I believe that Europeia is too intelligent to fall for such tactics.

~Rachel Somerset
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When did Oga say anything to that effect? :unsure:
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Jul 26 2014, 05:37 AM
When did Oga say anything to that effect? :unsure:
Whoopsies. I got confused by the similar avatars & siggies. People should not dress up as eachother :P
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Because my avi is Kermit the Frog ;)
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Rach
 
Such thoughts, seem innocent at first but if taken seriously they are a serious accusation against our democracy.
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our government is simply one of family ties and that families are run as a pseudo political party.
Rach
 
our government is a place of mass corruption.
Rach
 
these accusations tell us that voting is corrupt as well and that candidates such as Kraketopia have been elected previously not based on their merits
No.
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They are telling us that our democracy is not one in which those who are felt to be best at roles are placed in cabinet.
Rach
 
Not based on Kraketopias work in the region and his successes in a variety of fields, or his quick ascent into politics but rather on who he knows.
Possibly partly.
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Such accusations have no place in our society
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Could you imagine a President appointing a weaker Minister because of family ties?
Yes.
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Jul 26 2014, 05:45 AM
Because my avi is Kermit the Frog ;)
You must have been that kid in class that never knew what was going on :emb:
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Jul 26 2014, 05:47 AM
Rach
 
Such thoughts, seem innocent at first but if taken seriously they are a serious accusation against our democracy.
Rach
 
our government is simply one of family ties and that families are run as a pseudo political party.
Rach
 
our government is a place of mass corruption.
Rach
 
these accusations tell us that voting is corrupt as well and that candidates such as Kraketopia have been elected previously not based on their merits
No.
Rach
 
They are telling us that our democracy is not one in which those who are felt to be best at roles are placed in cabinet.
Rach
 
Not based on Kraketopias work in the region and his successes in a variety of fields, or his quick ascent into politics but rather on who he knows.
Possibly partly.
Rach
 
Such accusations have no place in our society
Rach
 
Could you imagine a President appointing a weaker Minister because of family ties?
Yes.
Thank you for your intelligent and salient response. I wish I had realized it was you and not OO before I wrote the article :baghead:
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I feel like he spilled on some of the takes :P
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Jul 26 2014, 05:51 AM
Thank you for your intelligent and salient response.
Sorry. :emb: I'm about to go to bed and those were mostly notes for myself. I'll respond lengthier tomorrow if you'd like. :) Keep in mind though, this article kind of lumps mine and Zenny's opinions together although they may differ. I haven't really followed her and your discussion so I might be responding to the wrong arguments, and I hope possible emotions don't carry over to me. :unsure:
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Good article, I'll respond later
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It didnt seem to bother them both when they lobbied for Kraketopia last election that he has family ties to Anumia. And it shouldnt. There is no proof that family ties make anyone more or less likely to hold a position (after all Ive held a few and Im not related to the Anumia clan). You know why so many people in Europeias government past and present have ties to the Anumia family? Because damn near everybody is a member of that family. They are adoption whores. It has f**k all to do with politics.
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Jul 26 2014, 02:56 PM
It didnt seem to bother them both when they lobbied for Kraketopia last election that he has family ties to Anumia. And it shouldnt. There is no proof that family ties make anyone more or less likely to hold a position (after all Ive held a few and Im not related to the Anumia clan). You know why so many people in Europeias government past and present have ties to the Anumia family? Because damn near everybody is a member of that family. They are adoption whores. It has f**k all to do with politics.
When you adopt 90% of the candidates it does tend to make victory easier :emb:
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If you really think about it, people want Cabinet ministers that they get along with and who are qualified for the job. Incidentally, if you're part of the "let's adopt everyone and their uncle" Anumia family, you're probably going to adopt people that you get along with. :P
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Jul 26 2014, 02:56 PM
It didnt seem to bother them both when they lobbied for Kraketopia last election
I lobbied against Kraken last election.
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