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| HEM | May 25 2014, 02:46 PM Post #1 |
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![]() E-News Network - "Grand Admiral nominee faces Senate scrutiny" Written by HEM Tiberius When newly elected President Kraketopia proposed his Cabinet to the Senate, he made it clear he expected his mandate to extend to his Cabinet choices saying that: "[These nominees] should not come as a surprise to you as it was announced well before the election, and the populace has voted me in with a decent majority with the expectation that this cabinet is the one I will be working with." But no matter the margin of votes in an election, the Senate retains the power to confirm or deny every officer appointed to the Cabinet. The custom of having the legislature confirm an executive cabinet was relatively uncommon when Europeia adopted the measure into her first constitution of the Republic. The confirmation tends to stand for more of a symbol of the legislature's check over the Executive rather than an actual power. Seven Deaths was one of Kraketopia's more controversial Cabinet officers released during the campaign. Former President Seven Deaths served in the Goldenblock himself in late 2013, and was derided for neglecting the region in favor of Albion. However, many argue that Seven Deaths is just joining the league of citizens who were outstanding public servants, but just poor Presidents. Many celebrated Europeians are in this group, such as: Pez201, Aramor, Neohabighorst, Sopo, and...myself. What is concerning to Senator Cormac -- the most critical Senator of the nomination -- is not just ancient history, however. Seven Deaths is currently serving as a Commander within the UIAF, which while allied with Europeia, may result in conflict of interest situations. When asked to take a leave of absence from his UIAF post, Seven Deaths made it clear he wasn't interested, "I'm not reluctant to take a leave of absence, I'm flat out refusing to do so. Minor difference, I know, but I thought I'd point it out." While other Senators have expressed concerns, most have shown a desire to trust the new President and give him his first Cabinet. Senator Elias Greyjoy has joined Cormac in issuing concerns, but has not committed to voting one way or another. It is expected that the entire Cabinet will be ultimately confirmed. |
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| Elias Greyjoy | May 25 2014, 05:31 PM Post #2 |
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First time a Cabinet nomination has faced any type of uphill battle since Cerian as MoFA? Or me in the same position? I think it's healthy that the Senate isn't just going about the act of blindly confirming all nominees. |
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| hyanygo | May 25 2014, 05:58 PM Post #3 |
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I think SD will pass the process. |
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| modernsin | May 25 2014, 06:35 PM Post #4 |
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I think he will too. And I'm...mostly okay with that. Sort of. Maybe. Not really though. Maybe. I do think that SD is not the ideal GA pick at this point in time. The ERN was largely inactive last term due to widespread unavailability among the sailors, including myself. I think the best thing the ERN can do, moving forward this term, is to turn its attention inward, so to speak - recruiting, training, getting more sailors comfortable with scouting and leading raids and so forth so the burden of leadership doesn't rest wholly on the GA's shoulders all the time. If SD's intention is to basically use the ERN as mere reinforcements for his beloved UIAF and their operations, I consider that a gross misappropriation of our flagging Naval infrastructure. I'm not sure how many of these points have already been brought up in the Senate thread since I have yet to read all of the posts therein, but suffice to say I'm not feeling too confident about the ERN's prospects in the coming weeks. More of an apprehensive wait-and-see feeling, I guess. I trust that SD is usually active and committed to any position he's appointed to, but I wonder whether his priorities are aligned with the best interests of the ERN in its present state. |
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| Rach | May 25 2014, 06:44 PM Post #5 |
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I also think he will pass. There is a strong belief that the Presidents choices for Ministries, in particular his first choices should always be approved because he was elected by the people and has the popular mandate. That belief will surpass any hesitations the Senate has about Seven Deaths. |
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| Seven Deaths | May 25 2014, 07:51 PM Post #6 |
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I assure you that isn't my intention. I'd explain further, but I've already done so in the EBC thread if anyone wants to read it. |
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| Charli | May 25 2014, 08:04 PM Post #7 |
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Good read! |
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| Lethen | May 25 2014, 08:50 PM Post #8 |
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Interesting read. I've been in the situation of serving as the same cabinet official in two allied regions simultaneously; it wasn't pretty. |
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| hyanygo | May 26 2014, 01:40 AM Post #9 |
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To deny SD would be the equivalent of a RL legislature denying supply. Embarrassing for the administration and an early nail in the coffin, Faced with an overwhelming show of support from the electorate only a few days ago, it is unthinkable that the Senate would deny Krak' his first choice. |
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| Cormac | May 26 2014, 05:23 AM Post #10 |
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The Senate also has a mandate, and a responsibility, to reject Cabinet nominees that it believes would be detrimental to Europeia. That mandate may be less fresh because we were elected weeks ago, but it is no less real. The President's election does not necessarily mean a mandate for all of his Cabinet nominees. Those who elected him may have done so for a variety of reasons, and with the knowledge that his nominees would face Senate scrutiny and a confirmation vote. |
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| PhDre | May 26 2014, 05:32 AM Post #11 |
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Unless his first choice is (arguably) not the best choice. Why is there a nomination and approval process in the Constitution? Is the Senate supposed rubber stamp the President's nominations? I think this is more clear when the President makes obviously detrimental picks (recall Swak for every position), and that's more common a few resignations into the term. But I'd agree with Cormac that a electoral victory is not a midas touch. |
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| modernsin | May 26 2014, 04:00 PM Post #12 |
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I agree with the point that just because Kraken received a lot of support in his Presidential run, the same level of support doesn't necessarily extend to his Cabinet picks, of which SD was probably the most controversial throughout the election and, obviously, after it. However, I'm gonna call bullshit on at least 50% of Cormac's rationale for rejecting SD:
What this says to me is that you're upset that SD didn't answer your questions the way you wanted him to. Your questions were fair, but so were his answers. He wasn't being uncooperative, he was being striaghtforward about his degree of commitment to the UIAF. At no point did SD refuse to answer any of your questions or speak in a disrespectful manner. So hinging your vote of a Cabinet nominee on the fact that they gave consistently clear and honest answers is laughable. Not upsetting or offensive or controversial. Laughable. Your other objections are more reasonable, but you're mad that he didn't spoon-feed you the 'rah-rah Europeia's #1!' answers you wanted to hear? Get over yourself, man. And I'm still not sure why you're tabling the vote on SD. Seems like most everyone's mind is made up, and CSP (the likely victor in the standby) has given his intended vote as well ("I won't vote against" is close enough, at least ). Dragging this out isn't doing anyone any favors.
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| Elias Greyjoy | May 26 2014, 04:09 PM Post #13 |
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I concur - a delay was altogether unnecessary, especially since it seems there is already a 3-2 split in favor. |
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| hyanygo | May 26 2014, 04:20 PM Post #14 |
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| Drecq | May 26 2014, 04:29 PM Post #15 |
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I delayed the vote because I felt that with a nomination this controversial (I mean when was the last time a cabinet nominee was not confirmed? or had this much uproar around it) the entire senate deserved to vote on it. And I wont presume to take CSPs vote for granted. And as it is 3-2 his vote could either confirm or not confirm SD. |
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