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So what the heck is Europeia anyways?

Can I join?

So, I came here representing another region? I do not want to become a citizen. Where should I go?

What offices are there for people to be elected into?

What is there for me to do in Europeia?

That answers most of my immediate questions. What if I have any more?


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A Taste of Skizz #15; TSP, or Part One of My Memoirs
Topic Started: Oct 10 2011, 07:17 PM (1,834 Views)
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I can't deal with this...

Henry, stop looking at the ugliness, you're the one ginning it up. Do you not see all the good that's happening this term? JGlenn and Switz, two very new members, are doing excellently running their own Ministry. Our Senate is productive despite the oddities that compose it. Our population is up. Everyone cares about the betterment of the region, and you and a few others are trying to make issues out of little things. We've had disagreements, and sometimes we may not handle them right, but we come back every day. Why? Because we care.

There's no Europeian underworld of evil, we're legitimately just a region trying our hardest to do our best. I'd appreciate it if you could stop pretending that you're some sort of Savior, because we're trying to rebuild a lot of a sense of community, duty, and brotherhood that we lost over the last few terms, and your hysterical rants aren't helping. What this region needs now is a sense of mutual respect, and I think we're laying the foundations of that, but it's hard to do when we're being accused of things that this region as a whole has not perpetrated. I know for a fact that this administration and most, if not all, of the members here just want to move past a momentary lapse in judgement and a spilling of grievances and move forward together.

Will you allow us to do that? You're a very smart guy, you could be an extreme asset to this region, but you can't look at us from a perch of superiority. Get down here and do the grunt work. Respect us, we'll respect you back. We want to build this region, we want to build this community, we don't care about the Library, so please, for the love of God, just let us move on.
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Oct 12 2011, 12:32 PM
I can't deal with this...

Henry, stop looking at the ugliness, you're the one ginning it up. Do you not see all the good that's happening this term? JGlenn and Switz, two very new members, are doing excellently running their own Ministry. Our Senate is productive despite the oddities that compose it. Our population is up. Everyone cares about the betterment of the region, and you and a few others are trying to make issues out of little things. We've had disagreements, and sometimes we may not handle them right, but we come back every day. Why? Because we care.

There's no Europeian underworld of evil, we're legitimately just a region trying our hardest to do our best. I'd appreciate it if you could stop pretending that you're some sort of Savior, because we're trying to rebuild a lot of a sense of community, duty, and brotherhood that we lost over the last few terms, and your hysterical rants aren't helping. What this region needs now is a sense of mutual respect, and I think we're laying the foundations of that, but it's hard to do when we're being accused of things that this region as a whole has not perpetrated. I know for a fact that this administration and most, if not all, of the members here just want to move past a momentary lapse in judgement and a spilling of grievances and move forward together.

Will you allow us to do that? You're a very smart guy, you could be an extreme asset to this region, but you can't look at us from a perch of superiority. Get down here and do the grunt work. Respect us, we'll respect you back. We want to build this region, we want to build this community, we don't care about the Library, so please, for the love of God, just let us move on.

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Oct 12 2011, 12:32 PM
I can't deal with this...

Henry, stop looking at the ugliness, you're the one ginning it up. Do you not see all the good that's happening this term? JGlenn and Switz, two very new members, are doing excellently running their own Ministry. Our Senate is productive despite the oddities that compose it. Our population is up. Everyone cares about the betterment of the region, and you and a few others are trying to make issues out of little things. We've had disagreements, and sometimes we may not handle them right, but we come back every day. Why? Because we care.

There's no Europeian underworld of evil, we're legitimately just a region trying our hardest to do our best. I'd appreciate it if you could stop pretending that you're some sort of Savior, because we're trying to rebuild a lot of a sense of community, duty, and brotherhood that we lost over the last few terms, and your hysterical rants aren't helping. What this region needs now is a sense of mutual respect, and I think we're laying the foundations of that, but it's hard to do when we're being accused of things that this region as a whole has not perpetrated. I know for a fact that this administration and most, if not all, of the members here just want to move past a momentary lapse in judgement and a spilling of grievances and move forward together.

Will you allow us to do that? You're a very smart guy, you could be an extreme asset to this region, but you can't look at us from a perch of superiority. Get down here and do the grunt work. Respect us, we'll respect you back. We want to build this region, we want to build this community, we don't care about the Library, so please, for the love of God, just let us move on.

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McEntire
Oct 12 2011, 12:32 PM
I can't deal with this...

Henry, stop looking at the ugliness, you're the one ginning it up. Do you not see all the good that's happening this term? JGlenn and Switz, two very new members, are doing excellently running their own Ministry. Our Senate is productive despite the oddities that compose it. Our population is up. Everyone cares about the betterment of the region, and you and a few others are trying to make issues out of little things. We've had disagreements, and sometimes we may not handle them right, but we come back every day. Why? Because we care.

There's no Europeian underworld of evil, we're legitimately just a region trying our hardest to do our best. I'd appreciate it if you could stop pretending that you're some sort of Savior, because we're trying to rebuild a lot of a sense of community, duty, and brotherhood that we lost over the last few terms, and your hysterical rants aren't helping. What this region needs now is a sense of mutual respect, and I think we're laying the foundations of that, but it's hard to do when we're being accused of things that this region as a whole has not perpetrated. I know for a fact that this administration and most, if not all, of the members here just want to move past a momentary lapse in judgement and a spilling of grievances and move forward together.

Will you allow us to do that? You're a very smart guy, you could be an extreme asset to this region, but you can't look at us from a perch of superiority. Get down here and do the grunt work. Respect us, we'll respect you back. We want to build this region, we want to build this community, we don't care about the Library, so please, for the love of God, just let us move on.

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Oct 12 2011, 09:32 AM
I can't deal with this...

Henry, stop looking at the ugliness, you're the one ginning it up. Do you not see all the good that's happening this term? JGlenn and Switz, two very new members, are doing excellently running their own Ministry. Our Senate is productive despite the oddities that compose it. Our population is up. Everyone cares about the betterment of the region, and you and a few others are trying to make issues out of little things. We've had disagreements, and sometimes we may not handle them right, but we come back every day. Why? Because we care.

There's no Europeian underworld of evil, we're legitimately just a region trying our hardest to do our best. I'd appreciate it if you could stop pretending that you're some sort of Savior, because we're trying to rebuild a lot of a sense of community, duty, and brotherhood that we lost over the last few terms, and your hysterical rants aren't helping. What this region needs now is a sense of mutual respect, and I think we're laying the foundations of that, but it's hard to do when we're being accused of things that this region as a whole has not perpetrated. I know for a fact that this administration and most, if not all, of the members here just want to move past a momentary lapse in judgement and a spilling of grievances and move forward together.

Will you allow us to do that? You're a very smart guy, you could be an extreme asset to this region, but you can't look at us from a perch of superiority. Get down here and do the grunt work. Respect us, we'll respect you back. We want to build this region, we want to build this community, we don't care about the Library, so please, for the love of God, just let us move on.

never said there was a Europeia underworld of evil, but people could at least try a little bit harder to change the shit that was pointed out a long time ago by myself and if people actually listened to what I've said instead of discounting it for the way it's said, we would be a lot closer to actually having a positive environment here in Europeia.

I react to negativity; I react to Bullshit; I react to lies and propaganda. You're not trying to rebuild anything here. Well, maybe you are; but there are far too many people here chasing their own damned agendas for anybody to rebuild anything. If they cared about anyone else but themselves; if they cared about anyone elses gain but their own; Europeia would be a far different place right now. A lot better of a place.

I'll tell you one thing: you don't build a sense of community by driving a wedge in it. People will never have mutual respect here. Some will, but many don't. Why? Because Europeia is filled to the brim with some of the biggest egos in NS.

Listen, you still have people here who continue to egg me on knowing I go off on tangents and you want to talk about communal effort? I was talking about communal effort over half a year ago. Communicate more with others, I said. Let them know what they're doing wrong in polite tones so that they may be aware of it and if that doesn't work, bring along an un-biased person to listen to both sides and deal with it. How can you expect me to respect anyone here when no respect was ever truly given to me. I did come in here an egotistical asshole with a lot of outrageous claims but did anyone give me the benefit of the doubt at the time? Did anyone try to work with me to stop me from doing that? No. I have tried, time and again, to help others out. I point things out. You tell me to jump in and help? I'm starting on peoples attitudes. So I have a bad attitude when it comes to bad attitudes and the way people jump on me with personal attacks the moment I start saying anything political. It's just like school all over again, with people trying to get a rise out of me. Ever since I got here in Europeia. No Respect. You don't even read what I have to say anymore because you don't give a fuck for what may have importance in it. You just look at who the fuck is saying and how it's being said and you all say 'Fuck, Henry's at it again. Henry's full of shit. Henry's insane and delusional.'

Fuck you. You tell me I went overboard? For going overboard on people going overboard...

See, you all are united in the way you think at the moment, you're not going to recognize any fault of your own even if it's blatantly posted in your faces. (it is, btw.) So, continue doing what you've always done and hate the messenger. Hate on Henry for showing you up for what you truly are. Fuck you all, I'm done and gone. I will not be back here until serious changes have occurred.
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Just because we don't agree with you does not mean we don't respect you Henry. Your own perspective isn't always the "right" one and for you to come back, and disrespect our own views and perspectives is a bit rough to read. You didn't just say, well... I disagree and think such and such. I can respect that. Rather, you told anyone who didn't agree with you that they were wrong, corrupt and pursuing their own personal agenda. You claimed your own perspective to be above all others and to be reality.

You called anything else "bullshit, lies and propaganda". Bashing people down because you think they're wrong, is not respectful nor is it helping contrary to your belief. Are the only opinions you respect the ones that conform to what you think?
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Listen, you still have people here who continue to egg me on knowing I go off on tangents and you want to talk about communal effort? I was talking about communal effort over half a year ago. Communicate more with others, I said. Let them know what they're doing wrong in polite tones so that they may be aware of it and if that doesn't work, bring along an un-biased person to listen to both sides and deal with it. How can you expect me to respect anyone here when no respect was ever truly given to me. I did come in here an egotistical asshole with a lot of outrageous claims but did anyone give me the benefit of the doubt at the time? Did anyone try to work with me to stop me from doing that? No. I have tried, time and again, to help others out. I point things out. You tell me to jump in and help? I'm starting on peoples attitudes. So I have a bad attitude when it comes to bad attitudes and the way people jump on me with personal attacks the moment I start saying anything political. It's just like school all over again, with people trying to get a rise out of me. Ever since I got here in Europeia. No Respect. You don't even read what I have to say anymore because you don't give a fuck for what may have importance in it. You just look at who the fuck is saying and how it's being said and you all say 'Fuck, Henry's at it again. Henry's full of shit. Henry's insane and delusional.'
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Don't pretend no one has ever given you the benefit of the doubt or a chance to prove your capabilities Henry because you and I both know that's complete and utter bullshit. Nobody's going to feel sorry for you on false pretenses. If you want to leave, leave. You're not doing anything productive anyway. But don't sit here and and parrot Falconias-like doomsday propoganda. Europeia's not going anywhere.
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Henry...I've always respected you. Always thought you had good stuff to say...this time though, I'm just..worried?

You've been coming and going for months now. You think you understand the state of the region, but you really have no idea. Not just historical stuff either -- before you retort. The conflict issues, the fierce relationship issues, what has been done and said. I truly don't think you grasp the extent to which certain members hold disdain, just as you don't understand people are trying to bridge that gap.

I've held my tongue for a while now. I have. But you honestly can't give the sort of verdict you have after a week. There's too much to gather, too much to understand. I concur fully with the cautious-Sopo approach, personally. But guess what? If others hate Oliver with their whole heart and trust the library 0%, they have that right. Maybe that they Oliver tattooed on their chest. That's alright too. We are Europeia because we can disagree, AND care for the region at the same time. The problem you have with us...is that you have a problem doing both.
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Even I'm gonna say it's time to let this one go Henry.. you've been good to me (though sometimes I'm not sure why), but whatever points you're making are getting lost. Just let it go.
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Henry, I've tried to be reasonable with you. What makes that difficult is that you say things in this horribly offensive, derisive, arrogant manner while recognizing that you are, in fact, saying things in such a manner. If you can't even correct your own hypocrisies, how can you dare try to right ours?
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I was pissed off when I posted that, obviously. Have some consideration for me blowing off steam. I believe I've been justified to do so by the amount of personal insults flying my way. I felt attacked and I reverted to old habits of attacking back. I apologize for the unprofessionalism.

HEM, from what I saw in the past week, I understand the disdain, I believe. I may not understand it as well as those who feel it themselves, but I understand it. I don't believe it's right, because they hold such disdain themselves without knowing everything. When all of the facts are not presented, how can people be so quick to accuse and judge? Are people trying to bridge the gap in a good way, though? The problem I have with people here is that too often there are too many personal insults flying through the air and of course when presented with personal insults I tend to react in kind; not many compromises are made, though that is slowly changing as people learn to stop arguing sooner and find ways to make it pleasing to both of them or all of them. The problem with Europeia is that, constantly, people get too caught up in what's going on to see what's happening around them.

Instinct and intuition have always served me very well and they tell me that something is very wrong in Europeia right now. Can't say what it is for sure, but given that and the course of events of the past year up until now, the only real course of action at this point is for Europeia to fall and never pick itself back up again, or to fall very far and have to rebuild. I don't think people have it in them anymore to rebuild Europeia. It was barely done with Falc, and now that peoples interest in Europeia is diminishing because of the conflicts that occur; enough for their loyalty to waver; enough for them to create their own forums to try and do things better; Europeia is in prime form right now to be conquered from the inside. Don't be foolish enough to believe that Europeia doesn't have enemies.

Rachel, I'm sure some people here respect me, but it's the ones who don't and the ones who stay silent that make me feel like I'm not and that I'm not welcome to speak my mind. It makes me want to leave almost every time I'm here. The personal insults, especially. I've tried to stay away from throwing those into debates but other people are more than happy to do so when they run out of important things to say.

Sopo, that goes back to the saying, 'don't discount the message due to the source.' Just because I'm an imperfect vessel doesn't mean that I can't still speak out or lend help. The fact that I'm cognizant of my own faults makes a difference and I'm able to work on the problem. Like anything difficult, it takes time. Some times it takes too much time. Then again, a person who speaks bluntly like I do is valued as a great treasure by some people who don't like fluff or asskissery. I don't personally insult people, I only insult by pointing out things that I notice. Of course, at that point, if what I say insults you, you should probably question why.

Now, when I referred to PhDre's newspaper as filth, that could have been; and was; easily misinterpreted. I don't think anyone understood quite what I meant by that term. It wasn't meant as an insult and it definitely wasn't meant to make it sound like PhDre's impressive writing capabilities were any less impressive. More so, it referred to how he strung the words together; causing bad drama instead of seeking to prevent it.

Can I explain to you all in depth how instinct and intuition work? No. Can I explain to you that my subconscious is an amazing beast that enables me to pick up on things that others wouldn't pick up on? Yeah, I can. Simple little things that most people would count as coincidence, I'm good at stringing together and finding useful information from. I pull at threads to see what happens; or at least I used to before NBE and before I thought I was being threatened with a hacker. I would probably make a better detective than a politician.

Europeia won't fall in a week, or a month. It probably won't happen within a year, but it will happen and it will happen because people allowed it to; because in the confusion abounding throughout Europeia people will slip into our hierarchy and subtly take over; change the direction we've wanted to go in for so long.
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