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So what the heck is Europeia anyways?

Can I join?

So, I came here representing another region? I do not want to become a citizen. Where should I go?

What offices are there for people to be elected into?

What is there for me to do in Europeia?

That answers most of my immediate questions. What if I have any more?


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Application; Application for citizenship
Topic Started: May 12 2018, 02:30 PM (554 Views)
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But can I be a citizen pls?
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May 12 2018, 04:21 PM
But can I be a citizen pls?
Hey, your citizenship application will need to be processed, this may take a few days but you will be notified and placed into a special group with more access to the forums while it is being processed after Lethen reads this thread.
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Every day may not be good, but there's something good in every day. <3

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Remember when I was famous? Neither do I.

Is the dishonesty really necessary Havadar?
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I laughed very hard at this.
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Oh, I didn't know this was Havadar.. >.<
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Remember when I was famous? Neither do I.

Oh, in case I wasn't clear, this is a firm denial.

I'm sure you'll think this is because you are Havadar, a player who resigned his citizenship (indirectly) by leaving our region to found another region. That we would somehow be insulted or offended if you, this dastardly traitor, dared return to us. The reality is that we have had many players leave on friendly terms (or at least neutral terms) to found other regions because we may not be the right fit. And that's fine; we honestly don't care. Its a reality of NationStates, and to be quite frank, newcomers come and go all the time. And it barely registers on our radars if they haven't been around long; haven't been very active within the community; and haven't really invested a lot of time and resources into Europeia.

Your application is being denied because, perhaps out of this fear of being denied outright for your perceptions above (I'm assuming you think you're some sort of hated figure here, some sort of martyr for another cause that we simply can't allow to exist here), you lied about who you were. And then you kept lying. And lied some more, dragging even some innocent players into your lie.

The bottom line is that we have had many players leave, come back a few months, a year, a few years after they were last active who have simply forgotten they were involved here previously. Or who lost the account passwords to their old account so they make a new one. Or who were active *so long ago* that they don't see the point in mentioning their past account. And nine times out of ten, they simply say "oh, my bad, didn't think it was necessary" or "oh, didn't know you needed that since I'm using a new account." Things get clarified; concerns are allayed; and they are approved after explaining things.

If you had just been honest, it'd be different. But you decided to lie, lie, and then lie some more. Good luck in your NS travels, mate.
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This is a message from the government of Havadar:

You now think you are very smart don't you? But why do you all say it is Havadar. It is my puppet, Latuaras. Now that you are denying his citizenship, I can only say one thing. You and your squad are just utter bastards. I left Europeia because I was tired of the authoritarian tyranny of this region. One of the worst things here was that the whole government shit here interferes with everything what the citizens do. You can't even roleplay or state facts about your nation.

Since the moment I and my friends left to found our own region, we have been closely watched and even accused of being a nazi region and nazi supporters. This is something that is totally wrong and we take it very seriously and therefore you and your government friends can also be regarded as liars. We don't want Europeia to give us or our members the status of nazi's. Therefore, we could only place our puppets here to check how everyone is talking about us.

And then to finish off. I am glad I left your totalitarian region. In the Universal Pact there is fun and our members think it is better now. In Europeia our lifes were almost made miserable by some kind of crazy government pig.

You also say that you don't care that people leave, but the reality is that you can't stand it. Why would there otherwise be such rumours and everyone started screaming when we left to found another region. The truth is: Make your region nicer to newcomers and don't oppress them. You called me a dastardly traitor, and dare not return to Europeia. Let me tell you something: I will not return to your fucking region.

Good luck with your life and your amazing job!!!! (kuch....kuch. SARCASTIC)
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This is a message from the government of Havadar:

You now think you are very smart don't you? But why do you all say it is Havadar. It is my puppet, Latuaras. Now that you are denying his citizenship, I can only say one thing. You and your squad are just utter bastards. I left Europeia because I was tired of the authoritarian tyranny of this region. One of the worst things here was that the whole government shit here interferes with everything what the citizens do. You can't even roleplay or state facts about your nation.

Since the moment I and my friends left to found our own region, we have been closely watched and even accused of being a nazi region and nazi supporters. This is something that is totally wrong and we take it very seriously and therefore you and your government friends can also be regarded as liars. We don't want Europeia to give us or our members the status of nazi's. Therefore, we could only place our puppets here to check how everyone is talking about us.

And then to finish off. I am glad I left your totalitarian region. In the Universal Pact there is fun and our members think it is better now. In Europeia our lifes were almost made miserable by some kind of crazy government pig.

You also say that you don't care that people leave, but the reality is that you can't stand it. Why would there otherwise be such rumours and everyone started screaming when we left to found another region. The truth is: Make your region nicer to newcomers and don't oppress them. You called me a dastardly traitor, and dare not return to Europeia. Let me tell you something: I will not return to your fucking region.

Good luck with your life and your amazing job!!!! (kuch....kuch. SARCASTIC)

No one accused Universal Pact of being a Nazi region. But you do have a nation in your region who was banned from Europeia for displaying Nazi Imagery and was known in the RMB for role-playing a racist, slave-holding nation.

Your region has a nazi troll in it. That's the only thing we're saying for certainty.

Now that you have called us government pigs, totalitarian, and that you have attempted to infiltrate our forum hidden as a puppet to see what we're saying, you definitely will not be welcome here.
Edited by Comrade Prim, May 14 2018, 03:28 PM.
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Latuaras, please note: You should read through Lethen's entire statement before replying.

This honestly does feel like Shenifar all over again...
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You now think you are very smart don't you? But why do you all say it is Havadar. It is my puppet, Latuaras. Now that you are denying his citizenship, I can only say one thing. You and your squad are just utter bastards. I left Europeia because I was tired of the authoritarian tyranny of this region. One of the worst things here was that the whole government shit here interferes with everything what the citizens do. You can't even roleplay or state facts about your nation.


This is a proxy account, it has not, to my knowledge, applied for a proxy waver, it therefor is illegal under Europeian law. Name calling and personal attacks will not be tolerated within Europeia. If you left the region due to it's "authoritarian tyranny" why are you so desperate to return? There is a dedicated place within Europeia's forums for roleplay, you are more than welcome to use it.

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Since the moment I and my friends left to found our own region, we have been closely watched and even accused of being a nazi region and nazi supporters. This is something that is totally wrong and we take it very seriously and therefore you and your government friends can also be regarded as liars. We don't want Europeia to give us or our members the status of nazi's. Therefore, we could only place our puppets here to check how everyone is talking about us.


You have been looked at as a curiosity at best, no one holds you any ill will for starting your new region. This shameless showboating & grandstanding is frankly, sad. Your new region is harboring a Nazi, you therefor are nazi supporters, the consequences of doing so are of your own making and your own to deal with. Stalking/lurking Europeia's RMB, Forum, and Discord, is hypocritical to a frankly astounding degree given that you complain about being "closely watched".

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And then to finish off. I am glad I left your totalitarian region. In the Universal Pact there is fun and our members think it is better now. In Europeia our lifes were almost made miserable by some kind of crazy government pig.


Bye Felicia, don't let the door hit you on the way out.

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You also say that you don't care that people leave, but the reality is that you can't stand it. Why would there otherwise be such rumours and everyone started screaming when we left to found another region. The truth is: Make your region nicer to newcomers and don't oppress them. You called me a dastardly traitor, and dare not return to Europeia. Let me tell you something: I will not return to your fucking region.


Frankly, we don't care who leaves, it is always sad to see people leave our little community but if they wish to then so be it, we have no right to stop them. You shout that you will not return to the region, and yet you made this proxy account, applied for citizenship and joined the discord, in what reality is that not attempting to rejoin the region?

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Good luck with your life and your amazing job!!!!

And the same to you. :hai:
Edited by Kari, May 14 2018, 03:29 PM.
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They definitely accused Universal Pact of being a Nazi region. If you don't believe it, I can show you the facts personally. I made screenshots of the discord discussion. That nation you mentioned trolled a bit that he was a Nazi, but when he wanted to come into the Universal Pact, we first questioned him if he agreed with Nazi belief and if he would swear that he wouldn't behave like a Nazi and he regretted everything. He was really sad he had presented himself as a Nazi. After that we welcomed him to Europeia and now he is a great friend who regretted everything he has done. So he is not a nazi troll anymore.

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You asked the nazi if he actually believe in nazi ideology and, when he said sorry, you took him at his word...

He is a nazi troll --
You're not a nazi though, just gullible.

He also still has his racist, slave codes in his national factbook, he hasn't changed a bit.
Edited by Comrade Prim, May 14 2018, 03:30 PM.
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