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Topic Started: Dec 4 2017, 10:34 PM (335 Views)
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Aexnidaral Seymour
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Dec 4 2017, 10:34 PM
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Somebody's got to keep you entertained.
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| Malashaan |
- Supports Intent: ✔
- Support S2: ✔
- Support S12: ✔
| Supporter[1] Original Signatory[2] | 👍👍👍 We know this candidate supports this proposal without a shadow of a doubt, and will take a leading position to ensure it is passed in the Senate.
| | Vac |
- Supports Intent: ✔
- Support S2: ✔
- Support S12: ✔
| Supporter[1] Signatory[2] | 👍👍 We believe this candidate supports and understands the proposed changes behind the underlying proposal.
| | Verteger |
- Supports Intent: ✔
- Support S2: ✔
- Support S12: ✔
| Supporter[1] Signatory[2] | 👍👍 We believe this candidate supports and understands the proposed changes behind the underlying proposal.
| | Vlaska |
- Supports Intent: ✔
- Support S2: ✔
- Support S12: ✔
| Supporter[1] Signatory[2] | 👍👍 We believe this candidate supports and understands the proposed changes behind the underlying proposal.
| | GraVandius |
- Supports Intent: ✔
- Support S2: ✔
- Support S12: ✘
| Largely Supports[1] Wants tweaks to s12 [2] | 👍 While this candidate supports minor tweaks to voting procedures and directives, we believe this candidate largely supports and understands the changes behind the underlying proposal.
| | Oakrugia |
- Supports Intent: ✔
- Support S2: ✔
- Support S12: ✔
| Supporter[1] | 👍 We believe this candidate largely supports the proposed changes.
| | Keshiland | - Supports Intent: ?
- Support S2: ?
- Support S12: ?
| No Position | ✋ The candidate has not responded to this question yet.
| | JayDee |
- Supports Intent: ✔
- Support S2: ?
- Support S12: ✘
| "Mostly Supports" Wants Changes to Ss11 & 12 Hesitant on S2 [1] Afraid changes may "go too far" [2] | 👎 While we appreciate the candidate's initial statement of support, the tepidity to endorse, particularly, S2 makes us hesitant to believe this candidate truly understands and supports the idea behind the reform.
| | Festavo |
- Supports Intent: ?
- Support S2: ✘
- Support S12: ✘
| "Appreciates sentiment" Wants more Dialogue Would currently Abstain or Oppose[1] | 👎 👎 We believe this candidate does not support the proposal. While we understand the candidate's reservations, some of the meat in this proposal lies within the ability for the President to decide GA votes and for them to appoint the Delegate. While we appreciate the candidates willingness to dialogue we believe that some of these areas, particularly the method of appointment, are non-negotiable. |
This will be updated as candidates provide responses or more nuance to their positions. The opinions & interpretations expressed above are only this paper's. Retweets do not equal endorsements. etc
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Family, Resume, and Awards Family  The Right Honourable Aexnidaral "Crist" Seymour Somerset

Son of North East Somerset and Rachel Husband of Pichtonia Seymour Somerset, Phantasus Chastain, and Ogastein Father of Isaris, Klatonia, XIV, and America Billiards Brother of JGlenn, Apollo, Brunhilde, and Ninja KittensResume and Awards "... Aex, who is treated like the Europeian version of Nickelback by a lot of people here."
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Izzy
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Dec 4 2017, 11:14 PM
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I don't think it's very fair to imply that the candidates who don't support the proposal lack an understanding of it. Apart from that, though, I think this is a good informational piece for voters.
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Darcness
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Dec 4 2017, 11:19 PM
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JayDee said (paraphrasing) "I don't like S12, and I'm hesitant about S2, but I support this idea." S12 and S2 are basically the whole point (the rest of the law is just housekeeping). Does JayDee really understand the law he's reading, if he says he supports the idea of the law, but none of it's major provisions?
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Izzy
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Dec 4 2017, 11:37 PM
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- Darcness
- Dec 4 2017, 11:19 PM
JayDee said (paraphrasing) "I don't like S12, and I'm hesitant about S2, but I support this idea." S12 and S2 are basically the whole point (the rest of the law is just housekeeping). Does JayDee really understand the law he's reading, if he says he supports the idea of the law, but none of it's major provisions? Hesitation doesn't necessarily imply a lack of support. It is possible to support something with reservations. Furthermore, a more accurate paraphrasing of JayDee's statement would be that he said he had an issue with S12. You can support an overall idea behind legislation while simultaneously being unhappy with the phrasing of the section. This happens frequently within the Senate and tweaking the language to get as close to making everyone happy as possible is a key factor in legislating. I can think of several examples where authors have had to make compromises to pass their proposals and this proposal's authors would be wise to keep that in mind. This is a democracy, after all.
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Festavo
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Dec 4 2017, 11:51 PM
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While we don't currently see eye to eye on this particular issue, I hope at least some of the passionate supporters of this reform proposal will find other things to like about my campaign.
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Minister of Communications in Europeia Former 2 Term Senator in Europeia
Non-Europeian Resume Legatus in The Roman Empire Pharaoh Emeritus of the Osiris Fraternal Order Stationmaster Emeritus of Grand Central Former Sergeant and Arms of Glory recipient in The Black Hawks And more that isn't as relevant or that I have forgotten Quotes Ark: If I'm a clone of Fest I am defective as hell Vac: Hide your WADs! Fest is bored. Syg: Hate to say it but I like Festavo more. Tim: I'm inclined to agree with Festavo, which is a terrifying occurrence. Nyx: I see Festavo at all the best parties. Revall: Festavo is an off his rocker cowboy capable of anything at the drop of a hat. Evil Wolf: Festy is the besty. [/center]
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Deepest House
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Dec 5 2017, 08:34 PM
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When you're not concerned with succeeding, you can work with complete freedom.
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As this is the most important issue of the election, it’s very useful to have an easy tool to see where each candidate stands. This will surely help inform voters.
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JayDee
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Dec 5 2017, 10:36 PM
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How do you get these emoji things on the forum????
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The Hon. JayDee Bonaparté, ESS
Special Bars Curriculum Vitae Current Positions (OnderKelkia)Former Positions Minister of Communications (51st & 52nd President) Senator (59th & 61st Senate) Deputy Minister (Communications)(Foreign Affairs) Positions held beyond Europeia Merciam Founder Associate Justice Chief Justice Secretary of Domestic Affairs Senator
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Ra Ra Rasputin Things people say Jaydee Senpai notice me-AexThat's it, no Llama for him. Everyone else still gets one.-VertegerJayDee, we need you to be the entire Government. By yourself.-DarcnessIm a coconut, brown on the outside but a little classically educated white boi on the inside-HyangyoJaydee's actually hot-MangoJayDee does need to turn 18 already, this is true-IsarisJayDee you tricky bastard-LethenWho needs an Ovation when you can have a gold star from JayDee?-ConstieD mak CA gret agin!!11!!-DrexloreHailing Satan is good. Hailing Satan is great. Hail Satan everyday for good luck-Kylia QuilorAs long as I can keep indulging my hobby to liberally swear at 7 year olds Im fine. The tears of young children is what keeps me looking so young myself.-DrecqJay is cool beans. -Pyntuma Real life quotes I've given up on being normal. I've found the only people that are normal are those too afraid to be themselves.-A wise man Look to the stars but keep your feet on the ground.-Teddy Roosevelt All religions must be tolerated for every man must get to heaven his own way.-King Frederick the Great of Prussia Labor to keep alive in your breast that little spark of celestial fire, called conscience.-George Washington The problem with defending the purity of the English language is that English is about as pure as a cribhouse whore. We don’t just borrow words; on occasion, English has pursued other languages down alleyways to beat them unconscious and rifle their pockets for new vocabulary.-James D. Nicoll A gift from Malashaan Family Son of Owen Bonaparte
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Oakrugia
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Dec 5 2017, 11:24 PM
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- JayDee
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How do you get these emoji things on the forum???? He probably copied it from that emoji site.
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About Me Hi! I'm Oakrugius Reubensmark, his former Sovereignty of the Discontinued House of Kolai, a Citizen of Europeia, The King of Taiga and the Head of the Reubensmark family.
 My Positions In The Past and Present (pretty much my resume btw :P) PAST:
Founder of Rocklands [May 2017-July 2017] Resident of the Conch Kingdom/AA [May 7, 2017-May 26, 2017] Ambassador of Multiple Regions [December 2016-August 2017]
PRESENT: WA Delegate and Founder of Krasnodar [August 2017-present] Citizen of Europeia [October 2017-present] Citizen of Lazarus [August 2017-present] Ambassador and Security Communications Officer of Nexlas [August 2017-present] WA Contributor [August 2017-present] the nice medal Snowball stole for me  Literally this  I am so obsessed with Lena Meyer-Landrut Oh god she is damn beautfiulQuotes Sopo - i hate the gays Drexlore - Oak is an anime boy. My Roles and Awards Curriculum Vitae 1x Candidate for President of Europeia 1x Candidate for Senator of Europeia
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Aexnidaral Seymour
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Dec 5 2017, 11:28 PM
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Somebody's got to keep you entertained.
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- JayDee
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How do you get these emoji things on the forum???? https://emojipedia.org/
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Family, Resume, and Awards Family  The Right Honourable Aexnidaral "Crist" Seymour Somerset

Son of North East Somerset and Rachel Husband of Pichtonia Seymour Somerset, Phantasus Chastain, and Ogastein Father of Isaris, Klatonia, XIV, and America Billiards Brother of JGlenn, Apollo, Brunhilde, and Ninja KittensResume and Awards "... Aex, who is treated like the Europeian version of Nickelback by a lot of people here."
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Dec 5 2017, 11:35 PM
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Thanks
As for the actual content; we clearly are in disagreement on this subject, but I do appreciate the fact that someone is covering the senate elections. It's unfortunate that they get so little coverage.
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The Hon. JayDee Bonaparté, ESS
Special Bars Curriculum Vitae Current Positions (OnderKelkia)Former Positions Minister of Communications (51st & 52nd President) Senator (59th & 61st Senate) Deputy Minister (Communications)(Foreign Affairs) Positions held beyond Europeia Merciam Founder Associate Justice Chief Justice Secretary of Domestic Affairs Senator
Albion Grand Councilman Kingdom of Great Britain His Lordship, Baron Jay Dee Bonaparte 'de Falaise Lord of Parliament x2 Lord Commissioner of the Justiciary x1 Member of Parliament Deputy Prime Minister
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Ra Ra Rasputin Things people say Jaydee Senpai notice me-AexThat's it, no Llama for him. Everyone else still gets one.-VertegerJayDee, we need you to be the entire Government. By yourself.-DarcnessIm a coconut, brown on the outside but a little classically educated white boi on the inside-HyangyoJaydee's actually hot-MangoJayDee does need to turn 18 already, this is true-IsarisJayDee you tricky bastard-LethenWho needs an Ovation when you can have a gold star from JayDee?-ConstieD mak CA gret agin!!11!!-DrexloreHailing Satan is good. Hailing Satan is great. Hail Satan everyday for good luck-Kylia QuilorAs long as I can keep indulging my hobby to liberally swear at 7 year olds Im fine. The tears of young children is what keeps me looking so young myself.-DrecqJay is cool beans. -Pyntuma Real life quotes I've given up on being normal. I've found the only people that are normal are those too afraid to be themselves.-A wise man Look to the stars but keep your feet on the ground.-Teddy Roosevelt All religions must be tolerated for every man must get to heaven his own way.-King Frederick the Great of Prussia Labor to keep alive in your breast that little spark of celestial fire, called conscience.-George Washington The problem with defending the purity of the English language is that English is about as pure as a cribhouse whore. We don’t just borrow words; on occasion, English has pursued other languages down alleyways to beat them unconscious and rifle their pockets for new vocabulary.-James D. Nicoll A gift from Malashaan Family Son of Owen Bonaparte
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Kylia Quilor
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Dec 7 2017, 12:07 AM
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And even more unfortunate that the coverage is about this WA nonsense.
I think I may actually vote for Festavo this time. Thanks for giving him such a 'bad' rating, Aex!
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The Rt. Hon. Commodore Kylia Quilor, Dux Emeritus, Legatus, Quartius, Primus Pilus, Praefectus Vigilum Noctu, ERN
 I. Am. Not. A. Nice. Person. Never underestimate the power of cynicism, pessimism and negativity to prevent terrible things from happening. Only idealists try to build the future on a mountain of bodies. Unfocused populism is just as dangerous, if not more so, to a Republic's survival as creeping authoritarianism. Tell people how you feel, honestly and frankly. If you like someone, tell them. If you don't like them, tell them - the world would be a better place if we all knew where we stood.
Professional Credentials Curriculum Vitae Europeia: President x1 Minister of Foreign Affairs x2 Grand Admiral x4 Senator x11 Minister of Communications x1
Current Positions In Other Regions: Queen of Kantrias
Past Positions in Other Regions (Selected): MP (LKE), Minister of the Exterior (LKE), Reichstag Delegate (TNI), Minister (TNI), Reich Elector (TNI), TNI Contingent Commander, (UIAF), Director of Public Relations (Region Inc)
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Testimonials To My Character Named Testimonials [justified]I sometimes suspect that [Kylia] Quilor is here to harvest the tears of young, ambitious nations. - The Bruce O how much we have missed your cynicism [Kylia]. :p - Zaolat I'm so happy you're back but you're also crushing my dreams - Sopo [Kylia] is close to defining the modern Europeian conservative. - Hyanygo You carry an interesting dichotomy about yourself - a mix of fiery passion and cool reservation that both intrigues and concerns me. -Trinnien Kylia is the neighbor at the end of the street that you don't want to mess with during petunia season. -Cat I'd just like to thank KQ for resurrecting this thread, because it was truly what GP needed. </sarcasm>- Cormac Oh man, today I did not wake up thinking "I'll post something defending Kylia" ... but here we are. - Aexnidaral Seymour[/justified] Anonymous Testimonials - “Too much negativity and edginess”
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Dec 7 2017, 03:58 AM
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Incredibly informative! Great work Aex.
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