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Topic Started: Oct 27 2017, 07:43 PM (729 Views)
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Festavo
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Oct 28 2017, 02:28 AM
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The Notorious
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Brunhilde has done just about everything she has been able to do to help Europeia since recovering from her surgery. She has not disappeared in the slightest. She is around discord and the forum every single day. In fact, I see her around just as much as I see the current President (that isn't adiss. Glen is good).
I find it hard to understand that people would just completely overlook her past track record in her positions here in Europeia. I also find it incredibly hard to understand that people would overlook all the effort she has put into a solid and detailed platform for her campaign. She puts in effort for this region wherever she can and that should be easy for people to see. The problem she has right now is perception. It is not reality.
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Oct 28 2017, 03:16 AM
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I absolutely love the visual representation of this information and the graphics, along with this being produced in such a timely fashion. These are very interesting results, and I look forward to seeing more published results like this!
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Oct 28 2017, 05:22 AM
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- Brunhilde
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- Kylia Quilor
- Oct 27 2017, 10:38 PM
I'm a little surprised by these numbers.
EDIT: Brun, focusing on character count feels a little disengenous - word count is generally the accepted measure of length.
My campaign is 11,026 words and 65,160 characters while my second Breakfast With Brunhilde Issue was 9,230 words and 53,494 characters. Well, personally I wouldn't talk about word count and character count, as they don't tell anything. You did provide insight on Europeia, and is a very strong candidate. I look forward to competing on election day.
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Oct 28 2017, 01:56 PM
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Brunhilde has a very good point in that she hasn't been given the opportunity to contribute by being selected for ministries or have her offers to do things be taken up by the Administration(s) since her return. This is true.
What is also true is that she hasn't held a post in government, not even Senator, since she was briefly VP under Aex. Europeia, historically, has rewarded cabinet service and the like with Presidencies, over grand platforms and bold ideas. Brun certainly has a bold and ambitious platform, but ideas alone have not historically made a presidential victory in Europeia.
This is, in some ways, a bit of a problem in Europeia, in that an 'opposition' politician (as it were) can actually be politically neutered by simply keeping them out of the cabinet and other visible executive-adjacent roles, whereas someone can significantly buttress another person's chances by constantly keeping them in the cabinet. This isn't to say that the people being placed in the cabinet don't deserve it - they absolutely do, in most cases - or that someone who isn't being placed in it is being not placed in it by any conscious strategy of political isolation.
I will admit that I lean Darcness at this point in the race, for a variety of reasons, but Brunhilde does have a good point that she hasn't been given the opportunity in recent memory to burnish her resume.
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Festavo
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Oct 28 2017, 02:09 PM
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It is worth noting that, when given the opportunity, she has performed well in the positions she has held like Minister of Foreign Affairs and Minister of Culture.
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Kylia Quilor
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Oct 28 2017, 02:23 PM
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More or less true, but Europeia suffers from a "what have you done for me lately" effect as much as anywhere else.
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Oct 28 2017, 02:52 PM
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A couple of thoughts.
I dont think this poll means people think Brun has done literally nothing. Probably more she has what she could to remain visible and an active member of the community. I just think in comparison to Darcness, who has been the FA minister this term, and been highly active in several ministries (serving as chief editor in Comms for example), the difference is pretty stark. Darc has been consistently active in leadership roles across the government the entire time since he he last lost the presidential elections.
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Oct 28 2017, 03:38 PM
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Brunhilde has a very good point in that she hasn't been given the opportunity to contribute by being selected for ministries or have her offers to do things be taken up by the Administration(s) since her return. This is true.
What is also true is that she hasn't held a post in government, not even Senator, since she was briefly VP under Aex. Europeia, historically, has rewarded cabinet service and the like with Presidencies, over grand platforms and bold ideas. Brun certainly has a bold and ambitious platform, but ideas alone have not historically made a presidential victory in Europeia.
This is, in some ways, a bit of a problem in Europeia, in that an 'opposition' politician (as it were) can actually be politically neutered by simply keeping them out of the cabinet and other visible executive-adjacent roles, whereas someone can significantly buttress another person's chances by constantly keeping them in the cabinet. This isn't to say that the people being placed in the cabinet don't deserve it - they absolutely do, in most cases - or that someone who isn't being placed in it is being not placed in it by any conscious strategy of political isolation.
I will admit that I lean Darcness at this point in the race, for a variety of reasons, but Brunhilde does have a good point that she hasn't been given the opportunity in recent memory to burnish her resume. This post is correct. Something else that is correct is that this region loves electing people President who have been President before.
A very small number of incumbent Presidents have ever been defeated, and I believe, every single one of them have only been defeated by former Presidents.
There are of course instances in which a one candidate has beaten a former President, but that is the exception, not the norm.
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Oct 28 2017, 04:30 PM
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That's an interesting point, HEM.
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Oct 28 2017, 07:38 PM
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There are of course instances in which a one candidate has beaten a former President, but that is the exception, not the norm.
I seem to remember doing something like that...
But in the context of being the outgoing VP, admittedly.
I think what it shows is that people like to elect those who have recently been in Government, because voters think that demonstrates they can be active and in a position to take the Presidency.
Europeia hasn't really functioned systematically with an "Opposition Party" type arrangement like many major RL democracies do, although there have been brief periods when it has occurred de facto. Whether such a system could work here is up for debate, but I suspect the answer is no.
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Oct 28 2017, 07:48 PM
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Something else that is correct is that this region loves electing people President who have been President before.
A very small number of incumbent Presidents have ever been defeated, and I believe, every single one of them have only been defeated by former Presidents.
There are of course instances in which a one candidate has beaten a former President, but that is the exception, not the norm. I find Darc's situation fascinating. He did inherit a Presidency due to resignation and served out that term, but polled in third behind a former President and the darkhorse Rand/Sopo ticket. I can find flaws with both tickets and neither one really blows me away, but I can't get over that election result.
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Oct 28 2017, 08:01 PM
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Something else that is correct is that this region loves electing people President who have been President before.
A very small number of incumbent Presidents have ever been defeated, and I believe, every single one of them have only been defeated by former Presidents.
There are of course instances in which a one candidate has beaten a former President, but that is the exception, not the norm.
I find Darc's situation fascinating. He did inherit a Presidency due to resignation and served out that term, but polled in third behind a former President and the darkhorse Rand/Sopo ticket. I can find flaws with both tickets and neither one really blows me away, but I can't get over that election result. I think Writinglegend and Darc were too similar in their platforms, whereas Rand and Sopo were proposing a significantly different set of ideas. Also, Darc was much newer then and has garnered signficantly more experience since.
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Oct 28 2017, 08:29 PM
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I think Writinglegend and Darc were too similar in their platforms, whereas Rand and Sopo were proposing a significantly different set of ideas. Also, Darc was much newer then and has garnered signficantly more experience since. I think that sums it up. Darc hadn't actually served a full term in any position at that point and because he and Gleg had such similar platforms people choose Gleg's experience over Darc. Rand and Sopo as you say, had a very different platform compared with their opponents so that became the real alternative.
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Nov 1 2017, 12:25 AM
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There are of course instances in which a one candidate has beaten a former President, but that is the exception, not the norm.
I seem to remember doing something like that... But in the context of being the outgoing VP, admittedly. I think what it shows is that people like to elect those who have recently been in Government, because voters think that demonstrates they can be active and in a position to take the Presidency. Europeia hasn't really functioned systematically with an "Opposition Party" type arrangement like many major RL democracies do, although there have been brief periods when it has occurred de facto. Whether such a system could work here is up for debate, but I suspect the answer is no.  Belated, but I beat a former President when the Mouse/Mal ticket faced off against SD/Rach, among others. Though, depending on when you asked SD & Rach they were or were not a joke ticket.
And Mal and I were kinda incumbents since we were presently in the Goldenblock as Mal/Mouse, but flipped the ticket, so that may also confound the data set.
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