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ENN Poll: This Is Cat's Election To Lose
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Topic Started: Aug 24 2017, 03:32 AM (542 Views)
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JayDee
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Aug 26 2017, 01:39 AM
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- Comrade Snowball
- Aug 26 2017, 01:36 AM
- PhDre
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- GraVandius
- Aug 25 2017, 09:24 PM
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Which statement best characterizes your view? (August 2017)
Older members expect to be handed political positions without putting in the work: 24.1% (+1.2%) Older members work for political positions, but not as hard as newer members have to: 69% (+20.4%) Older members work just as hard for political positions as newer members: 6.9% (-21.7%)
I'm wondering if this large change is due to the uproar of Possibly This's upset over Skizzy back then and a greater number of older members being up in arms over that issue. Now that things have returned to normal, I think less hysteria is the reason for that drop in the final category.
PT worked hard for his Senatorship. By which I mean he ran 9+ times. That election wasn't an example of young players working hard particularly for a position because PT did nothing of value legislatively besides run every election. It was definitely a referendum on experienced and qualified older members expecting that new / younger citizens value their previous contributions without continued visible service. It did not help that skizzy does not use discord which we see time and again is a political edge.
Discord is becoming more and more the face of Europeia Discord is not becoming the face of Europeia, or NS in general. Discord is simply part of yet another shift in the medium of communication throughout NS. It was no different from when NS switched from IRC to predominantly Skype messaging.
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Rach
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Aug 26 2017, 01:42 AM
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Europeia was never much of an IRC region and more of a MSN region like many UCRS tbh.
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JayDee
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Aug 26 2017, 01:44 AM
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I'll take your word for it, I wasn't around back then. I assumed it was IRC because some regions still use IRC over Discord and Skype.
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The Hon. JayDee Bonaparté, ESS
Special Bars Curriculum Vitae Current Positions (OnderKelkia)Former Positions Minister of Communications (51st & 52nd President) Senator (59th & 61st Senate) Deputy Minister (Communications)(Foreign Affairs) Positions held beyond Europeia Merciam Founder Associate Justice Chief Justice Secretary of Domestic Affairs Senator
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Ra Ra Rasputin Things people say Jaydee Senpai notice me-AexThat's it, no Llama for him. Everyone else still gets one.-VertegerJayDee, we need you to be the entire Government. By yourself.-DarcnessIm a coconut, brown on the outside but a little classically educated white boi on the inside-HyangyoJaydee's actually hot-MangoJayDee does need to turn 18 already, this is true-IsarisJayDee you tricky bastard-LethenWho needs an Ovation when you can have a gold star from JayDee?-ConstieD mak CA gret agin!!11!!-DrexloreHailing Satan is good. Hailing Satan is great. Hail Satan everyday for good luck-Kylia QuilorAs long as I can keep indulging my hobby to liberally swear at 7 year olds Im fine. The tears of young children is what keeps me looking so young myself.-DrecqJay is cool beans. -Pyntuma Real life quotes I've given up on being normal. I've found the only people that are normal are those too afraid to be themselves.-A wise man Look to the stars but keep your feet on the ground.-Teddy Roosevelt All religions must be tolerated for every man must get to heaven his own way.-King Frederick the Great of Prussia Labor to keep alive in your breast that little spark of celestial fire, called conscience.-George Washington The problem with defending the purity of the English language is that English is about as pure as a cribhouse whore. We don’t just borrow words; on occasion, English has pursued other languages down alleyways to beat them unconscious and rifle their pockets for new vocabulary.-James D. Nicoll A gift from Malashaan Family Son of Owen Bonaparte
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Kylia Quilor
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Aug 26 2017, 02:22 AM
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Yeah, IRCs were more of a GCR thing, and the UDL. Even TBH prefered Skype, IIRC.
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Aug 26 2017, 03:54 AM
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- Aug 25 2017, 11:11 PM
- GraVandius
- Aug 25 2017, 09:24 PM
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Which statement best characterizes your view? (August 2017)
Older members expect to be handed political positions without putting in the work: 24.1% (+1.2%) Older members work for political positions, but not as hard as newer members have to: 69% (+20.4%) Older members work just as hard for political positions as newer members: 6.9% (-21.7%)
I'm wondering if this large change is due to the uproar of Possibly This's upset over Skizzy back then and a greater number of older members being up in arms over that issue. Now that things have returned to normal, I think less hysteria is the reason for that drop in the final category.
PT worked hard for his Senatorship. By which I mean he ran 9+ times. That election wasn't an example of young players working hard particularly for a position because PT did nothing of value legislatively besides run every election. It was definitely a referendum on experienced and qualified older members expecting that new / younger citizens value their previous contributions without continued visible service. It did not help that skizzy does not use discord which we see time and again is a political edge. I think attributing skizzy's loss to discord is a mischaracterization. He was practically invisible prior to running for that term in senate, if newer members knew him at all it was as someone who rarely ever posted. We had no reason to vote for him because we didn't know him. After that loss he stepped up his activity, and when he ran again he was handily elected to the senate, still without using discord.
Activity matters. I think people tend to put too much emphasis on how much someone uses discord.
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PhDre
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Aug 26 2017, 02:14 PM
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What was PTs interaction in the region? Iirc it was purely social, and there was basically nothing he had done in the CA. A very accomplished older member ran against a very unaccomplished and very "I haven't done any work at all besides run for office" member and lost. Not to mention that Calvin iirc lost to both of them.
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Aug 26 2017, 02:34 PM
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Which statement best characterizes your view? (August 2017)
Older members expect to be handed political positions without putting in the work: 24.1% (+1.2%) Older members work for political positions, but not as hard as newer members have to: 69% (+20.4%) Older members work just as hard for political positions as newer members: 6.9% (-21.7%)
I'm wondering if this large change is due to the uproar of Possibly This's upset over Skizzy back then and a greater number of older members being up in arms over that issue. Now that things have returned to normal, I think less hysteria is the reason for that drop in the final category. This threads seems to have morphed into a discussion on Possibly This, but I think that it's important to note that that particular incident occurred in very early 2017, whereas the first time this question got asked was months later in March. So, that's to say, that the Possibly This incident was fully cashed in when we got the first set of results on the "older members vs. newer members work for positions" question. The decline since then has to have been for other reasons.
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Aug 26 2017, 06:46 PM
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- Aug 26 2017, 02:14 PM
What was PTs interaction in the region? Iirc it was purely social, and there was basically nothing he had done in the CA. A very accomplished older member ran against a very unaccomplished and very "I haven't done any work at all besides run for office" member and lost. Not to mention that Calvin iirc lost to both of them. What you are forgetting is that there is a population of social members that don't do much else.
While the election was surprising, he won it.
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Aug 26 2017, 08:00 PM
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HEM, your numbers were nearly spot on.
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Aug 27 2017, 05:31 AM
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Better polling than the RL Presidential election.
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- Skizzy Grey
- Aug 23 2017, 12:50 AM
Unlike your home region, Europeia is not hell-bent on subverting and destroying other regional communities. We are an open society. You are taking advantage of that openness to try to influence our elections for the benefit of your home region, which is committed to our destruction. Perhaps our laws allow you to do this (though as a Senator, I'll be looking into changing that), but they don't require me to be nice to you while you're doing it, you little piece of shit.
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