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PollGrumps: Darcness Falls
Topic Started: May 23 2017, 09:52 PM (798 Views)
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Foreword: I want to thank all of those who came out to take my poll. The sample size was significant for a community like ours, however because of the dynamics of our community polling isn't a science. There's no way to weight numbers to be more accurate of a demographic, and there's no way to know X or Y variables that you can account for in real life. These numbers aren't the end-all-be-all, and it's not the end of the world. You should always take polls with a grain (or whole shaker) of salt. I could run the same poll tomorrow and get wildly different results based solely upon who is turning up to participate. At the end of the day there's only one poll that matters: the voting booth.



President Darcness
Do you approve or disapprove of the way Darcness is handling his job as President?

Approve48%
-----------------Strongly Approve----------20%
-----------------Somewhat Approve----------28%
Not Sure11%
Disapprove41%
-----------------Strongly Disapprove----------24%
-----------------Somewhat Dispprove----------17%



Speaker McEntire
Do you approve or disapprove of the way McEntire is handling his job as Speaker?

Approve61%
-----------------Strongly Approve----------39%
-----------------Somewhat Approve----------22%
Not Sure14%
Disapprove25%
-----------------Strongly Disapprove----------16%
-----------------Somewhat Dispprove----------9%



Decision for Referendum
Do you agree or disagree with President Darcness' decision to send the Honored Citizen Restriction Amendment to a referendum?

Agree39%
-----------------Strongly Agree----------28%
-----------------Somewhat Agree----------11%
Not Sure5%
Disagree56%
-----------------Strongly Disagree----------35%
-----------------Somewhat Disagree----------21%



Honored Citizens Reform Act
Do you approve or disapprove of the Senate passing the Honored Citizen Restriction Amendment?

Approve55%
-----------------Strongly Approve----------30%
-----------------Somewhat Approve----------25%
Not Sure7%
Disapprove38%
-----------------Strongly Disapprove----------23%
-----------------Somewhat Dispprove----------15%



How Will You Vote on the Referendum
Do you support (want to implement) or oppose (don't want to implement) the Honored Citizen Restriction Amendment currently at referendum?

Support/For56%
-----------------Strongly Support----------30%
-----------------Somewhat Support----------26%
Not Sure/Haven't Made Up My Mind8%
Oppose/Against36%
-----------------Strongly Oppose----------27%
-----------------Somewhat Oppose----------9%


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Well, I can't say I'm especially thrilled by these numbers, but here's hoping the voting booth churns out better ones.

Also, I'm amazed so many people seem to be letting this move by Darcness color their view of the man - though he still has more approval than disapproval, at least.
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I am particularly amused by the comment that lists post count as a deciding factor in determining whether or not someone should be a president. It is easy enough to rack up 1000 posts in the spam zone if you're dedicated; I'm not sure if that is a metric that should be considered.

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Getting to the bottom of the comments and seeing Aex's sig was the cherry on the cake
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People are being too hard on Darc. This is a controversial issue that not long ago failed to pass in the CA. It is reasonable to throw it to the People when the President doesn't feel comfortable giving their assent.

This is also something that is getting a lot more attention than it deserves, and I'm ready for it all to be settled.
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May 23 2017, 10:16 PM
Getting to the bottom of the comments and seeing Aex's sig was the cherry on the cake
In fairness, that's how I felt about some of them, especially the "pathetic power grab turned amateur hour" comment which wins the "contextually dubious, yet most dumb" award of the comments.
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This is almost beyond a broadside of Darcness's choice to send this to referenda. Now, I don't think Darc's choice was correct, but this was awfully and excessively attacked.
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I think people are drawing the conclusion that the referendum issue has been a broadside in Darcness' popularity. I think, in reality, it's more likely that his popularity has been overstated up to this point. In The Lens polling results, Vice President Darcness had a mode score of 5 and an average score of 6.52. When you translate those numbers to Aex's (far superior) way of asking the question of approval, it isn't that far off.

Then let Darcness inherit a fairly unpopular administration and give him this referendum issue, you see ratings go down a smidgen. I don't think the referendum issue has hit him too badly, however, and I think he has some time to build up his bona fides if he decides to seek another term.
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I think people are drawing the conclusion that the referendum issue has been a broadside in Darcness' popularity. I think, in reality, it's more likely that his popularity has been overstated up to this point. In The Lens polling results, Vice President Darcness had a mode score of 5 and an average score of 6.52. When you translate those numbers to Aex's (far superior) way of asking the question of approval, it isn't that far off.

Then let Darcness inherit a fairly unpopular administration and give him this referendum issue, you see ratings go down a smidgen. I don't think the referendum issue has hit him too badly, however, and I think he has some time to build up his bona fides if he decides to seek another term.
HEM makes a good point.
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The President should have just signed the amendment. It was a silly choice by him in order to win public favor and favor from his political party.

This comment amuses me because this topic has not really been one discussed among those in the Coalition for Responsible Politics. I had asked if anyone wanted to have our own debate or discussion, and I was met with a resounding chorus of "meh."

I do agree that this is a conscious move by the other political party, but to paint the CRP as the "enemy" in this populist brouhaha is misplaced and misguided.
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The President should have just signed the amendment. It was a silly choice by him in order to win public favor and favor from his political party.

This comment amuses me because this topic has not really been one discussed among those in the Coalition for Responsible Politics. I had asked if anyone wanted to have our own debate or discussion, and I was met with a resounding chorus of "meh."

I do agree that this is a conscious move by the other political party, but to paint the CRP as the "enemy" in this populist brouhaha is misplaced and misguided.
Yes, one anonymous comment is a conscious move by the FAEP party. You caught us. Don't know how we expected to get that entire move past you.

Also good to know you consider democratic reform populist.
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May 24 2017, 01:01 PM
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The President should have just signed the amendment. It was a silly choice by him in order to win public favor and favor from his political party.

This comment amuses me because this topic has not really been one discussed among those in the Coalition for Responsible Politics. I had asked if anyone wanted to have our own debate or discussion, and I was met with a resounding chorus of "meh."

I do agree that this is a conscious move by the other political party, but to paint the CRP as the "enemy" in this populist brouhaha is misplaced and misguided.
Yes, one anonymous comment is a conscious move by the FAEP party. You caught us. Don't know how we expected to get that entire move past you.

Also good to know you consider democratic reform populist.
Of course, it's not at all suspicious that Leo, the person who introduced this amendment, happens to be the member of a party that supports the removal of HC speaking rights. Obviously just a coincidence.

Maybe it's not populist, but I find it awfully suspicious that the most vocal members in support of the amendment just so happen to be from the FEP. It's true that CQ is a member of the CRP, but Noto, who has made his opinion very clear in the discussion, is not aligned with anyone. So you'll have to excuse the people who find it easy to attribute this whole amendment with a populist movement.

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Wait, I misread the comment by Mouse. I thought she was saying that the painting of the CRP as an enemy was a FAEP program.

Democratic reform and this one in particular is a FAEP policy plank. Only reactionaries have been against it and to call it populist is incorrect. This process has been supported by our best and brightest HCs.
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The President should have just signed the amendment. It was a silly choice by him in order to win public favor and favor from his political party.

This comment amuses me because this topic has not really been one discussed among those in the Coalition for Responsible Politics. I had asked if anyone wanted to have our own debate or discussion, and I was met with a resounding chorus of "meh."

I do agree that this is a conscious move by the other political party, but to paint the CRP as the "enemy" in this populist brouhaha is misplaced and misguided.
Yes, one anonymous comment is a conscious move by the FAEP party. You caught us. Don't know how we expected to get that entire move past you.

Also good to know you consider democratic reform populist.
I think she means that support of the amendment is a conscious move by the FAEP, not the anonymous comment.
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Wait, I misread the comment by Mouse. I thought she was saying that the painting of the CRP as an enemy was a FAEP program.

Democratic reform and this one in particular is a FAEP policy plank. Only reactionaries have been against it and to call it populist is incorrect. This process has been supported by our best and brightest HCs.
...HEM and Lethen? I don't know who else you're talking about since they're the only HCs who support this. Meanwhile, you have Skizzy, Hy, and Drecq who are against it.

You use the word reactionary as if it's a bad thing. Reactionary just means that you're against social reform, something that is not always bad. It's just you in your short-sightedness that can't recognize that you're not always right. You attack people simply because they have a different view than you.
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