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Do We Really Need Chancellors?; The Other Supremes
Topic Started: Sep 28 2016, 07:17 AM (620 Views)
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Sep 29 2016, 01:20 PM
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I`m not sure what your point is in bringing up Balder or what you are trying to counter. The point was simply that HEM`s role is identical to that of a constitutional monarch in NS.


I think what you're missing here is that it isn't the "titles" per se that matter, it is mostly the powers and the institutions (though titles can certainly signal certain behavior). You could rename "Supreme Chancellor" to "King" (not that we should) and the arguments I made here wouldn't become null and void.

A constitutional monarchy, in this context, is a semi-permanent official who retains various "veto powers" upon the elected government. These powers could be the ability to unilaterally call elections, issue executive orders, issue pardons, veto legislation, fire officials etc. etc. The Supreme Chancellery does not have these powers, setting it apart from the "constitutional monarch" system.
But you could have a chancellor or another titled position with those powers you listed just as you could have a monarchy with the chancellors powers or less.
You're focusing too much onto the titles, Rach. It isn't necessarily about the "title" it is about the system.

Maybe I need to expound on this more. I can't now, but I see your point and will go deeper later.
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Rach
Sep 29 2016, 01:20 PM
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Sep 29 2016, 01:06 PM
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I`m not sure what your point is in bringing up Balder or what you are trying to counter. The point was simply that HEM`s role is identical to that of a constitutional monarch in NS.


I think what you're missing here is that it isn't the "titles" per se that matter, it is mostly the powers and the institutions (though titles can certainly signal certain behavior). You could rename "Supreme Chancellor" to "King" (not that we should) and the arguments I made here wouldn't become null and void.

A constitutional monarchy, in this context, is a semi-permanent official who retains various "veto powers" upon the elected government. These powers could be the ability to unilaterally call elections, issue executive orders, issue pardons, veto legislation, fire officials etc. etc. The Supreme Chancellery does not have these powers, setting it apart from the "constitutional monarch" system.
But you could have a chancellor or another titled position with those powers you listed just as you could have a monarchy with the chancellors powers or less.
You're focusing too much onto the titles, Rach. It isn't necessarily about the "title" it is about the system.

Maybe I need to expound on this more. I can't now, but I see your point and will go deeper later.
Well, I did say the difference wasn't about title but about cultural flavour so it's highly possible we're both saying something very similar.
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