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| Vandermonde | Nov 3 2009, 01:17 PM Post #1 |
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I was watching mtv hits the other day (one of the places they still play music videos, but this one has a pretty heavy pop bent). Their general MO if you're unaware is to have singers put together a list of videos and then introduce each of them so they don't have to hire a VJ. Some disney-produced teenage girl was doing this at the time, and listed a bunch of groups she listens to and included nine inch nails. I was struck with the realization that the downward spiral, their third recording, was made around the same time she was. From there it occured to me that there are people of legal age and by extension, a bunch of the people on the radio who weren't alive for nevermind. From there though i moved on from lamenting my age and got into a discussion with coolcab of the differences in what was on when we were starting to get into music, what of it we liked, and where we went from there. I figured the latter was sort of an interesting topic, so large portions of that chatlog follow, and feel free to include your own Spoiler: click to toggle
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| AWIY | Nov 3 2009, 01:23 PM Post #2 |
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hey you leave the offspring out of this |
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| AWIY | Nov 3 2009, 01:27 PM Post #3 |
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and you died on aim that's good |
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| Suenteus Po | Nov 3 2009, 02:26 PM Post #4 |
Je n’en vois pas la nécessité
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whenever I try to remember how "Smells Like Teen Spirit" goes instead I think of "It Smells Like Cartoon Planet", which was a commercial used to advertise one of Cartoon Network's early original productions. Space Ghost and Zorak showed old Warner Brothers cartoons, bridged with poorly-animated sketches. I have little idea of what music has been doing while I've been alive. Certainly I don't remember any of it having been of much importance. |
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| dbuel | Nov 3 2009, 02:29 PM Post #5 |
Yes. Questions.
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Cartoon Planet was so awesome They won't put it on DVD |
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| Joleo | Nov 3 2009, 03:14 PM Post #6 |
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I had a moment like this not long ago. I was driving and listening to the "Classic Rock" station, when they played a Headstones tune. I was wondering how they possibly thought this song was old enough to put on their station, when I realized that it came out 15 years ago. I remember being excited for that album coming out. 15 years ago. The first albums I really listened to were Green Day's Dookie and Offspring's Smash. I don't listen to those bands anymore, although Green Day still puts out a good song now and then, but my next discovery was Bad Religion, who is my favorite band to this day. I got into metal shortly after this, with White Zombie's Astro Creep 2000 and Pantera's Vulgar Display of Power. Still love Pantera, but I can't stand White Zombie now. I worked with a guy who was a few years younger than me and he was heavy into Rob Zombie's solo stuff. He asked me why I was so disinterested, since I liked metal he assumed I would like Rob Zombie. I just told him "Dude, I did this thing 10 years ago." |
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| Uber_Mexico | Nov 3 2009, 03:18 PM Post #7 |
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Power rangers fans that were born after Zordon died make me feel way old. |
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| Joleo | Nov 3 2009, 03:18 PM Post #8 |
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Another "I'm getting old" moment came once when I was asking Aileen's 20 year old brother is he ever played Chrono Trigger. He said he'd never heard of it. The conversation went: Me: Seriously? You've never played or even heard of Chrono Trigger? John: No. What is it on? Me: Super Nintendo, man! John: I don't play those old systems. Me: Old? What the fuck dude, that just oh shit I guess you're right it is kind of old... |
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| Vandermonde | Nov 3 2009, 03:25 PM Post #9 |
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I guess i should mention that at some point i can't locate got into stuff like death cab for cutey, rilo kiley, radiohead etc and now a decent part of what i listen to is fairly melancholy alt rock. I almost never hear new mainstream rap i like any more, but as you know i've gotten into some pretty weird stuff in that genre to compensate. I dunno when i started looking for weird covers and arrangements of stuff i liked (strings, a capela, ska covers etc); possibly it sprung out of parodies and dance remixes. I also got pretty into old prog, classic rock, old southern rock etc at some point. The southern rock thing is pretty weird actually. I like lynrd skynrd and ccr and such but i can't stand most of the bands influenced by them. |
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| dbuel | Nov 3 2009, 03:34 PM Post #10 |
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MOLLY HATCHET HELL YEAH |
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| CoolCab | Nov 3 2009, 03:42 PM Post #11 |
Do you know what ELSE it's cleary not?!
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I once read the wikipedia article for Cleerance Clearwater Revival and it was like, oh, this is where movies get their iconic time period soundtracks. |
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| lord smurf | Nov 3 2009, 03:44 PM Post #12 |
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I also hated the Pumpkins at the time. I just started getting into them like a year ago. Over the last 5 years or so I've got into the bands I didn't listen to when I was a kid. And that's now classic rock. You guys are only a little younger than me but it's a huge difference musically. Even what you're talking about in the chatlog, that's like when I was 14 or so and feels almost new. The rap that I remember is Salt an Peppa, Hammer, Vannila Ice, Kriss Kross. I never listened to that stuff. Music videos were already past their prime. It makes me feel really old when I think that music videos are a dying art form. They were huge when I was a kid and had the same production values as blockbuster movies sometimes. I was really into pop music in the early 90's music. Pre-boyband and spice girls. It was a lot of dance-pop. Heavy on the synthesizers, often had rap interludes. I don't remeber much of it, but the songs Rythm is a Dancer was once one of my favorite. Mr. Vain. um, some Michael Jackson - Black or White. Then I realized I was listening to crap and quit music for a couple years. I got back into it later when I realized I liked rock and alternative. Tea Party, Treble Charger (before they sucked), Our Lady Peace, Collective Soul, 54-40, Moist, Big Wreck, GooGoo Dolls, Barenaked Ladies were all big ones when I got into that stuff. |
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| Vandermonde | Nov 3 2009, 03:49 PM Post #13 |
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I think 54-40 wasn't actually big outside canada, but i could be wrong. I flat out don't know who tea party or treble charger were, that could be the same sort of deal, or i may have just not heard of them. |
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| Locus Cosecant | Nov 3 2009, 04:08 PM Post #14 |
It says right here you've never won, and nowhere that you've tried
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When I was a kid, I would listen to the oldies station on the radio, pretty much. Everybody's sayin' that there's nobody meaner than the little old lady from Pasadena, she drives real fast and she drives real hard, she's the terror of Colorado Boulevard. And then when I started getting into actually caring about music in high school, I started out with my dad's Replacements albums. I guess it makes sense to start at the top, you know? But I got into them like ten years after they broke up, which is sort of depressing. So I started getting into other pop-punk stuff, except that when the emo revolution occurred it sort of pissed in that particular pool, so I pretty much had to restrict myself to stuff that came out before the early nineties. So, I guess I've never really had the experience of "oh my god, I am so old" based on my musical tastes, because I was living in the musical past to begin with. |
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| Energizer | Nov 3 2009, 04:09 PM Post #15 |
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When I first started listening to music at all, it was just whatever my parents had. My favorite band was the Moody Blues. I liked The Point! I still like them. There are a ton of bands way better than the Moody Blues, but who doesn't like a little Story in Your Eyes now and then. When I started listening to music enough to actually try to accumulate some, my favorite band was the Beatles. The first record I bought was Abbey Road, which my parents hadn't had - I only knew the songs from the blue best-of. I liked Simon & Garfunkel, Joni Mitchell, Elton John. There were individual songs I liked by long-dead bands - Seatrain, Strawbs. When I was 16 my boss introduced me to Pink Floyd, Frank Zappa, and the Bonzo Dog Band. They were all basically done already though. To be fair I never tried those Roger Waters solo albums. In college my gf hooked me up with her bands: David Bowie, The Who / Pete, The Police, Suzanne Vega, Leonard Cohen. Bowie's 1987 album sucked, but man, he came back in the mid-90s, and even had a good album in the oughts (Heathen). Vega's career was just starting; she had a hit with Luka. In the end she had no more hits, but her best album was a few years off. Cohen refuses to die, but never does anything that compares to his late 60s / early 70s stuff. Sting was done, Pete had just finished. If you bought anything after White City, well I am sorry. This is not just a list of favorite bands or something; in my book Bowie just blows away those other guys. When I moved to SF, I was heavy into Dylan. I'd always known about him, but hadn't really gotten into him. Dylan has a Christmas album this year, wtf, but man, in my book he was done in 1976, after Desire. He had that great run in the 60s, and then a two-album comeback after his wife left him. It's the same old story. In SF I started really having some disposable income, and also I got the Trouser Press Record Guide, 4th edition. I tried lots of bands based on that book. Around this time my favorite bands were Brian Eno (just for the prog albums, not the ambient stuff), They Might Be Giants (they just had 3 albums), and Elvis Costello. That book also got me Robyn Hitchcock / Soft Boys, Talking Heads / Byrne, Kate Bush, Sparks, Jane Siberry. In 1994 I asked the girl working at Mod Lang to recommend some bands. She recommended Game Theory (a fitting choice, as Scott Miller was a huge Chilton fan). I joined a mailing list for fans of Game Theory / Loud Family, and that got me Guided by Voices etc. and Magnetic Fields etc. That conversation at Mod Lang ended up being a pivotal life event, as I met Karen at a Loud Family in-store concert, and she introduced me to Diana, whose Wacky Romantic Pyrate Salon is where I met my gf. In the end a lot of my favorite music is from the 90's (and not listed here). A stand-out old band that doesn't appear above is Jethro Tull. I knew about them as a kid, but lost interest in Thick as a Brick after the second section started. I tried them out again in my 30s and well man, a lot of great stuff there. Including the rest of Thick as a Brick. Ian is singing So where the hell was Biggles as I type this. I remember when John Lennon died. I remember when Thriller came out. That was an expensive video. I remember when Madonna became a star. I remember when MTV debuted. It was wall-to-wall videos. I also remember when cable TV debuted, but I guess that's not relevant. I remember disco. I went to a disco, I was just a kid, but they had pool tables in the back, and free pizza on Wednesdays. Well they called it pizza. |
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| Locus Cosecant | Nov 3 2009, 04:11 PM Post #16 |
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I guess these days I listen to anime music in real time. Maybe in ten years I will be shaking my head at these kids who have never heard of "Hare Hare Yukai". |
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| dbuel | Nov 3 2009, 04:12 PM Post #17 |
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I see you shuffle in the courtroom with your rings upon your fingers 
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| dbuel | Nov 3 2009, 04:13 PM Post #18 |
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They already sound like the cool kids |
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| Spectre | Nov 3 2009, 04:18 PM Post #19 |
truancy problem is way out of hand
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this is like verbatim my experience getting into electronica. though i was introduced to sandstorm and not long (before/after?) got the first gorillaz cd and i think that's what led me there. man, i agree it doesnt hold up now |
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| The Nose of Argon | Nov 3 2009, 05:00 PM Post #20 |
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Kids today with their rap music. 
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| Energizer | Nov 3 2009, 05:08 PM Post #21 |
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It's like a jungle sometimes It makes me wonder how I keep from goin' under |
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| Suenteus Po | Nov 3 2009, 05:44 PM Post #22 |
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It felt weird when Hayashibara Megumi retired because she had a toddler. Of course now she's doing some stuff again. Sang the Manabi Straight OP and reprised her roles in Slayers and the Eva relaunch. Cruel Angel's Thesis is still top-tier. |
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| Locus Cosecant | Nov 3 2009, 05:46 PM Post #23 |
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It says right here you've never won, and nowhere that you've tried
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It is weird to think that I'm older than Hirano Aya. |
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| lord smurf | Nov 3 2009, 07:34 PM Post #24 |
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Yea, sorry. I'm talking about Canadian rock radio. |
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| haplo | Nov 3 2009, 07:37 PM Post #25 |
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I still listen to Americana. Shit was awesome in 5th grade. |
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| Joleo | Nov 3 2009, 08:26 PM Post #26 |
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Oh man, this looks incredibly similar to my list of bands to kill Yuck |
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| Grakthis | Nov 3 2009, 08:29 PM Post #27 |
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Man... I was a Sophmore in HS when Dookie and Smash were big. I remember telling people I thought Greenday was just a Clash wannabe. In fairness, having 2 older brothers meant I was exposed to older music at a younger age. And they were just Clash wannabes. I remember the first few tapes (yes, tapes) I owned were the following: Mili Vanili Paula Abdul's single for Opposites Attract. Young MC Michael Jackson's Bad I remember buying the Digital Undergrounds "Sex Packets" with my older brother cause I couldn't buy it myself. I remember my dad getting me the Record for the soundtrack to the Neverending Story because I liked the theme song so much. He still has it in his record collection. I remember watching Al TV. I remember Harvey the Wonder Hamster. I remember the original MTV intro video with the bad stop motion, awful weird theme music (that MTV kept for a long time) and the ketchup bottle doing the "TV" part of the logo. It actually featured a moon man... the moon man award probably confuses young people cause I don't think MTV has used anything with a moon man except the award in 20 years. I remember when Jeremy came out. I remember it winning best video. I was pissed cause I did not like the video, but I did like the song. But man... it's best VIDEO. Anyways, when I got older I realized why the video is awesome. I remember being in a van on my way to a scout trip when someone was playing Nevermind. I thought it sucked at first. I eventually learned to like it, mostly when I heard their earlier stuff first. I still think Nevermind is their worst album. I remember when Mr Jones was a "buzz clip" on MTV, along with Beck's Loser and the Breeders Cannonball and Blind Melon's No Rain and various other really great 90's songs. Man... MTV has done a lot of bad shit over the years, but they fucking nailed the mid 90's music scene. They pretty much picked all the good shit. I was in HS during that time. I remember that the first CD I bought was the TMNT movie sound track. I remember also buying the 2nd movie soundtrack with Vanilla Ice on it. Go ninja, Go ninja, go. Go ninja, go ninja, go. Ninja, ninja, rap. ninja, ninja, rap. |
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| Grakthis | Nov 3 2009, 08:29 PM Post #28 |
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Our Lady peace and BNL are (well, WERE in the case of BNL) amazing, fuck you. The rest suck balls though. |
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| Grakthis | Nov 3 2009, 08:31 PM Post #29 |
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Tom's Diner. |
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| Joleo | Nov 3 2009, 08:32 PM Post #30 |
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Nope |
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