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Topic Started: Feb 28 2018, 07:06 PM (4,067 Views)
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What do they eat?

Braised nuts and bolts with a side of washers sauteed in silicon gel with a WD40 aperitif?
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So kidding aside, I want to tlak about food a bit so I started a new thread.

I has a question I'm curious about. So by now everyone should know they need to avoid highly processed foods in favor of food you make for yourself and lightly processed food. What I'm curious about it, what is a lightly processed food?
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Group 1 foods (unprocessed or minimally processed)

Group 1 comprises unprocessed foods: that is to say all those found in nature that can be consumed fresh in whole form.
The methods used to produce group 1 minimally processed foods do not substantially change the nutritional properties of the original unprocessed foods, and may improve them, intrinsically or in effect.
Such processes include: cleaning, removal of inedible fractions, grating, squeezing, draining, flaking, drying, parboiling, bottling (without additions other than water), chilling, freezing, fermentation (when the result is not alcoholic), pasteurisation, vacuum and gas packing, and simple wrapping.
The results are minimally processed foods: meat and milk, whole grains, pulses (legumes), nuts, and fruits, and vegetables, roots and tubers sold as such, are usually minimally processed in various ways.
Minimal processing is usually undertaken by the primary producer, packing house distributor or retailer, as well as by manufacturers, for eventual sale to consumers.


http://www.theironyou.com/2012/01/do-you-know-difference-between.html

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Feb 28 2018, 07:15 PM
So kidding aside, I want to tlak about food a bit so I started a new thread.

I has a question I'm curious about. So by now everyone should know they need to avoid highly processed foods in favor of food you make for yourself and lightly processed food. What I'm curious about it, what is a lightly processed food?
I am sceptical that anyone knows this but if you don't want to get into an argument about nutrition research that is also fine
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Feb 28 2018, 07:16 PM
pre-shredded cheese
Should be avoided. They put a chemical on it to prevents it from clumping.
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Feb 28 2018, 07:20 PM
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Feb 28 2018, 07:15 PM
So kidding aside, I want to tlak about food a bit so I started a new thread.

I has a question I'm curious about. So by now everyone should know they need to avoid highly processed foods in favor of food you make for yourself and lightly processed food. What I'm curious about it, what is a lightly processed food?
I am sceptical that anyone knows this but if you don't want to get into an argument about nutrition research that is also fine
I'm open to it.
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So kidding aside, I want to tlak about food a bit so I started a new thread.

I has a question I'm curious about. So by now everyone should know they need to avoid highly processed foods in favor of food you make for yourself and lightly processed food. What I'm curious about it, what is a lightly processed food?
there's a healthcare triage video i keep linking every time this comes up, so i'm going to link it again

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PhEwfaFLrd0

lightly processed foods are foods that, outside of like grak, we wouldn't make at home, so, like, pasta, but you should get pasta that's got like one entire ingredient in it. i get whole grain. then there's like flour. oil.
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personally i drink nothing but dr pepper and for the last eight or so days i have been only eating one cup of rice, one cup of popcorn, and one box of kraft dinner.
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Feb 28 2018, 07:16 PM
pre-shredded cheese
Should be avoided. They put a chemical on it to prevents it from clumping.

normally cellulose, right? what's wrong with that
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Feb 28 2018, 07:22 PM
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Feb 28 2018, 07:20 PM
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Feb 28 2018, 07:15 PM
So kidding aside, I want to tlak about food a bit so I started a new thread.

I has a question I'm curious about. So by now everyone should know they need to avoid highly processed foods in favor of food you make for yourself and lightly processed food. What I'm curious about it, what is a lightly processed food?
I am sceptical that anyone knows this but if you don't want to get into an argument about nutrition research that is also fine
I'm open to it.
I'm not sure where this view comes from exactly but i read the new york times article and the study and they are kind of post-hoc interpretation of the data? Which isn't like a sin but it's not very convincing.

I don't want to like, dissuade anyone if what they're eating works for them. Just, if it's not working, consider trying something else instead of doubling down because "this is what nutrition research says".
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here are some reasons why I can think of that it's generally reasonable to try to avoid processed foods:

* prevalence of nutritional boogeymen, like corn syrup / sugars, "bad" fats, and sodium

* processing / precooking leading to breakdown of nutritional components, so your body metabolizes them differently, which is often unhealthy

* homogenization / lack of variety of foods and ingredients, so your diet is less well-rounded

which are compelling enough to me that I think it's a reasonable rule of thumb, at least.
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* homogenization / lack of variety of foods and ingredients, so your diet is less well-rounded

this one can probably be corrected for
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and I guess it can't hurt to be wary of additives in general, but I'd balk at suggesting that "additive" necessarily implies "bad"
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i only use pure salt, no bad iodine additives for me
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Feb 28 2018, 08:06 PM
here are some reasons why I can think of that it's generally reasonable to try to avoid processed foods:

* prevalence of nutritional boogeymen, like corn syrup / sugars, "bad" fats, and sodium

* processing / precooking leading to breakdown of nutritional components, so your body metabolizes them differently, which is often unhealthy

* homogenization / lack of variety of foods and ingredients, so your diet is less well-rounded

which are compelling enough to me that I think it's a reasonable rule of thumb, at least.
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Feb 28 2018, 08:53 PM
i only use pure salt, no bad iodine additives for me
i can tell :ohyes:
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i only use pure salt, no bad iodine additives for me
Personally, I only post kosher salt.
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Feb 28 2018, 08:06 PM
here are some reasons why I can think of that it's generally reasonable to try to avoid processed foods:

* prevalence of nutritional boogeymen, like corn syrup / sugars, "bad" fats, and sodium

* processing / precooking leading to breakdown of nutritional components, so your body metabolizes them differently, which is often unhealthy

* homogenization / lack of variety of foods and ingredients, so your diet is less well-rounded

which are compelling enough to me that I think it's a reasonable rule of thumb, at least.
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how do you know what
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that sugars, sodium etc are bad
that different metabolic effects from precooking are bad

etc
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if your point is that you can't really be certain of anything, then sure, you do have a point
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well, my point is that it is very hard to know anything in the field of nutrition, specifically
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for example, for a while everyone knew that fats were bad and whoops, turns out that's not true
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I don't believe that that's very different from many other fields of research, except that the consequences feel very personal

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well i mean i would not say that it's different from e.g. social psycology or for that matter many other health fields
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but again, if whatever you are doing works, great! I am certainly not telling anyone to abandon something that is working well for them
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well i mean i would not say that it's different from e.g. social psycology or for that matter many other health fields

sure. I'd place nutritional science somewhere between economics and mechanical physics
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i would place it below economics (i.e. economics is more well understood), but idk
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Feb 28 2018, 11:45 PM
for example, for a while everyone knew that fats were bad and whoops, turns out that's not true
And you know what one of the biggest results of that is?

People mistrust science.
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