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| Julian Assange arrested | |
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| Tweet Topic Started: Dec 7 2010, 07:39 PM (417 Views) | |
| #LJB | Dec 7 2010, 07:39 PM Post #1 |
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I figure now is as good of time as any to talk about our thoughts on the wiki of leaks. The fact that the site has got Mitch McConnell, Newt Gingrich and Palin in a rage is enough for me to support Mr. Assange. Even some of my right-leaning acquaintances are calling for the extradition of Mr. Assange, so he can be tried for treason, even worse, executed. Personally, sentiments from those I am close with send shivers down my spine. He has had my support for exposing what the government has been up to. Though a lot of what has been exposed s what many suspected all along. He has been the single most greatest force for transparency in the government and has been showing us what we all need to see. If only he had leaked important about the US financial institutions before he turned himself in. Thoughts? Was the rape accusation an inside job? or not? Do you agree with what he is doing or not? Something Ron Paul said rings true in Mr. Assange's case: In a free society we're supposed to know the truth. In a society where truth becomes treason, then we're in big trouble. And now, people who are revealing the truth are getting into trouble for it. |
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| Lance | Dec 9 2010, 02:10 AM Post #2 |
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Some thoughts - Idiot should have kept his dick in his pants. That said, the way the US is acting over this should be chilling to everyone. Freezing his bank account, getting Visa, Mastercard, Amazon and Paypal is political ramification. Few of these leaks were particularly surprising to anyone who has been paying attention. You can't be tried for treason in the US unless you're a US citizen. I'd have thought that was obvious to all these "strict constitutionalists" (spoiler: racist imperialist assholes), as treason is the only crime outlined in the US Constitution. If he's guilty of espionage, so is every news outlet that reported his information. AFAIK, he actually still hasn't been charged. Swedish law is a bit funny on this. He's only been accused and told he has questions to answer. There's still a way to go before a formal charge - he needs to be questioned by a prosecutor, and then there's a hearing in front of some lay people. Also, under Swedish law, if Assange is extradited to Sweden and the US wanted to extradite him from there, they would need the consent of the UK. So, it's actually harder for the US than it would have been. Not that I don't think the UK won't bend over backwards to appease the US. This is apparently the first time Sweden's asked for an extradition in this type of case, which is suspicious to me. Ron Paul can rim a dog. |
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| March Haire | Dec 9 2010, 05:17 AM Post #3 |
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Yeah, you can't execute the guy for treason. You can bring him before a military tribunal, but boy would you be expanding the definition of terrorist for him. And yeah, the way America is acting about this is fucking crazy. We kind of lauded WikiLeaks for the leaked Iraq war videos, but the revelation that government officials are fucking terrible is worth sending the hounds? Please. All in all, I don't think he'll wind up being brought to America. He'll be like Roman Polanski, only without the pesky tether of actually being beholden to US law. |
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| David | Jan 8 2011, 11:56 PM Post #4 |
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I don't think it is strange that Assange is not prosecuted until he has been heard by Swedish authorities. Also, it is not true that Sweden would need consent from the UK to extradite him to the US. The Swedish government decides on that matter, after the Supreme Court of Sweden and the prosecutor-general have given their opinions. A conviction of rape that Assange has committed in Sweden is no reason for Swedish authorities to turn him over to the US. And under Swedish law, he has not committed espionage (Swedish law on espionage is far less extensive than US law). Bottom line is I don't think that Sweden would turn him over (and I definitely hope not, because they don't have any real reason to). I'm curious about whether this is the first time that Swedish prosecutors ask for an extradition "in this type of case" (with that I assume you mean, a suspect who have not yet been prosecuted). Where did you read that? |
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| Lance | Jan 13 2011, 09:22 PM Post #5 |
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Charged, not prosecuted. Can't find a link on that, but on the rest, I got my information from the BBC: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-11946652
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-11949771
If you have information contrary to this, I would like to be privy to it. |
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