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Good Lord; Madness...
Topic Started: Oct 8 2007, 07:42 AM (1,504 Views)
March Haire
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Oct 8 2007, 03:07 PM
Taker/Triple H will never be unadvertised.

It would have been awesome. And it probably would have sold more than a few replays. Not everybody megauploads.
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WWE booking made no sense. Versus could've done it better, I could've done it better March could've done it better, JJJ could've done it better, Matt could've done it better, Joker could've done it better, IMDB could've done it better, anyone with a shred of wrestling knowledge could've done the following things:

-Not cut a very good match in favor of a pizza eating contest that belongs on SD
-Not manage to make Vince McMahon, Randy Orton, UMAGA~! and Triple H all look weak in one night
-Not ended the ECW match in under two minutes
-Not left Undertaker and Kane off the card, and Kennedy and Faggy in a throwaway match
-Not failed to give a Jericho tease

That's about it for now. WWE had six days to book the title match. It shouldn't have been that hard.
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Oh, and advertising a tournament would have sufficed for the "Taker and Trips wouldnt go unadvertised." Instead, we were given zero clues and rewarded with plenty of faggotry.
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This is what happens when you have a lazy writing staff. They'd built the show so much around the cash cow, that when he got hurt, instead of calmly building a show people wanted to see, they panicked and made a high holy clusterfuck of shit.

I think having diarrhea out of my dick might've been better than watching this gobshit. I'd rather watch replays of Mae Young giving birth to a hand. I'd rather eat the rotten asshole of a roadkilled skunk.I'd rather watch a Hornswaggle/Melina sex tape.

Fucking horrible.
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Oct 8 2007, 11:39 AM
This is what happens when you have a lazy writing staff. They'd built the show so much around the cash cow, that when he got hurt, instead of calmly building a show people wanted to see, they panicked and made a high holy clusterfuck of shit.

I think having diarrhea out of my dick might've been better than watching this gobshit. I'd rather watch replays of Mae Young giving birth to a hand. I'd rather eat the rotten asshole of a roadkilled skunk.I'd rather watch a Hornswaggle/Melina sex tape.

Fucking horrible.

I do give props where they're due, Joker. Good job.
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Hahaha, people are actually complaining because a scrawny tit like Orton didn't smush his near-invincible, newly-returned former mentor and the brand's #2 babyface. Orton is now more over as a heel as he would have been if he'd have beaten Triple H (and half the other main eventers, which is what some of you seemingly wanted judging by your tournament suggestions) clean, but this mentality that WWE should be like circa 2004 Ring of Honor in every way prevails.

Then again, this isn't actually what any of you think. This is what Nathan thinks, and none of you have nearly the mental muscle he has, hence the hilarious lamprey impressions. You make me sick.

I actually agree this was a shit card if the whisperings that H defeated UMAGA~! clean in his second match of the evening turn out to be true, because that alone is a travesty. Tripper has been teetering on the edge of total egotism for the past seven years but for him to near-bury my favourite addition to the RAW roster is the kind of arrant pedantry up with which I will not put.

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First off, just handing the WWE championship to Orton at the show made zero sense. Orton was given credit for putting the champ out in kayfabe, and on ECW, Vince was Chris Benoit serious in vacating the WWE championship. Vince may be a maniacal heel, but he still plays a cunning businessman...


Oh, come on, he spent the first few years of his character's existence trying to end Stone Cold Steve Austin and The Rock. This was in no way out of character: he told Orton to show him that he wanted the title, and Orton in response ostensibly took Cena and Cena's dad out. Who else was he going to give the title to? Ted Turner? Or, yeah, perhaps just give Triple H/Undertaker away without advertising it.
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Oct 8 2007, 07:44 PM
total egotism
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Quite!

Edit: Apparently Orton was beaten when he ran into the ringpost and was rolled up for a fast three count, and beat Triple H by brutalising him and RKOing him through an announce table. Yeah, Bagshitter was buried, all right. What a travesty.

I wish he fucking had been Pedigree'd to death.
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Oct 8 2007, 06:44 PM
Who else was he going to give the title to? Ted Turner.

I would have marked. Mainly, I found it odd that Vinnie Mac would be so deadly serious about vacating the title. It would have been different if he had mentioned the one time Cena tried to embarrass him or something, but he played it as though the last great American hero had perished. Then bagshitter just gets the title, and loses it 12 minutes later. At least Trips defended the belt sucessfully when it was awarded to him by the Bisch.

Trips/UMAGA~! was a travesty.

Trips/Orton II was fantastic, probably my 3ed favorite WWE match of the year, but if that's what they were building to, it was unnecessary to kill Orton and UMAGA~! at the same fucking time.

And shit, they gave Orton/Trips away without advertising it, and that feud was supposed to be big money when Evolution started to crack. Point is, you tell the fans that you're going to make history, why not do it? Trips/Taker on PPV without prior notification wouldn't have been a bad thing, shit, releasing a tournament bracket wouldn't have been a bad thing...

Undertaker vs. MVP
HHH vs. UMAGA~!
Orton vs. Faggy
Matt vs. Kane

Any retard looking at that kind of thing would be like "oh shit...Trips and Taker are going to go at it." Instead, a potentially good tag match is taken off the card and we're given no Undertaker and a pizza eating contest that people payed $40 to see. Care to explain how that was a great booking decision, oh wise one?
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Giving Orton/HHH away for free? You can't play that game without suggesting a match that would be even less appealing, which sort of fucks your whole argument.

I'm not going to discuss booking prior to the pay per view, because I don't watch WWE and don't know much of what they've advertised and what they haven't. But judging the whole show as one angle, it worked in the following ways: Triple H fills the Cena role, Orton fills the sneaky heel role, Orton fulfills his push by becoming the new champion, Triple H/Orton is the main event feud as intended. I don't know how Vince being serious or not really comes into it, but he was always going to back Orton ahead of Triple H.

Undertaker being dropped in favour of pizza I can't explain, but WWE did supposedly announce it a few days before the PPV, so you can't call false advertising on that front. It's better than having him beat MVP in the middle of a mini-push for Porter before going over or jobbing to Triple H without A.) any build up or B.) any chance for retribution, owing to the fact they're on different brands. That teases two feuds out of the blue that WWE have no reason for delivering on and kills the unbeatable aura of either Taker or Trips.

I don't know where all this "potentially good tag match" shit is coming from. The last time the BOD were together, they were one of the worst tag teams in recent memory, putting in awful performances while needlessly massacring members of the Alliance. Seriously, Heidenreich/Animal were better. It was painfully obvious they were going to treat us to ten or so minutes of MVP being a tit and Undertaker and Kane being hard before MVP pisses off and leaves Matt at the mercy of the BOD. Hardly a huge loss.
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Oct 8 2007, 10:39 AM
I think having diarrhea out of my dick might've been better than watching this gobshit. I'd rather watch replays of Mae Young giving birth to a hand. I'd rather eat the rotten asshole of a roadkilled skunk.I'd rather watch a Hornswaggle/Melina sex tape.

Fucking horrible.

Channeling some AVGN quotes I see.
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Oct 8 2007, 11:10 AM
On a more positive note – the Spinner is still here.

I'd count that as a bad thing. It's just a constant reminder that whoever is holding the belt is only keeping it warm for Cena. That's what spoiled Edge and RVD's title reigns.

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Oct 8 2007, 03:39 PM
I'd rather watch a Hornswaggle/Melina sex tape.

Actually, I'd pay to see that.
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Oct 8 2007, 08:12 PM
Pam Anderson's Vag
Oct 8 2007, 10:39 AM
I think having diarrhea out of my dick might've been better than watching this gobshit. I'd rather watch replays of Mae Young giving birth to a hand. I'd rather eat the rotten asshole of a roadkilled skunk.I'd rather watch a Hornswaggle/Melina sex tape.

Fucking horrible.

Channeling some AVGN quotes I see.

Indeed. And TMNT III was everything he said and more.
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Pam Anderson's Vag
Oct 9 2007, 07:03 AM
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Oct 8 2007, 08:12 PM
Pam Anderson's Vag
Oct 8 2007, 10:39 AM
I think having diarrhea out of my dick might've been better than watching this gobshit. I'd rather watch replays of Mae Young giving birth to a hand. I'd rather eat the rotten asshole of a roadkilled skunk.I'd rather watch a Hornswaggle/Melina sex tape.

Fucking horrible.

Channeling some AVGN quotes I see.

Indeed. And TMNT III was everything he said and more.

Really, I might have to check that out...
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Oct 8 2007, 08:00 PM
Giving Orton/HHH away for free? You can't play that game without suggesting a match that would be even less appealing, which sort of fucks your whole argument.

I'm not going to discuss booking prior to the pay per view, because I don't watch WWE and don't know much of what they've advertised and what they haven't. But judging the whole show as one angle, it worked in the following ways: Triple H fills the Cena role, Orton fills the sneaky heel role, Orton fulfills his push by becoming the new champion, Triple H/Orton is the main event feud as intended. I don't know how Vince being serious or not really comes into it, but he was always going to back Orton ahead of Triple H.

Undertaker being dropped in favour of pizza I can't explain, but WWE did supposedly announce it a few days before the PPV, so you can't call false advertising on that front. It's better than having him beat MVP in the middle of a mini-push for Porter before going over or jobbing to Triple H without A.) any build up or B.) any chance for retribution, owing to the fact they're on different brands. That teases two feuds out of the blue that WWE have no reason for delivering on and kills the unbeatable aura of either Taker or Trips.

I don't know where all this "potentially good tag match" shit is coming from. The last time the BOD were together, they were one of the worst tag teams in recent memory, putting in awful performances while needlessly massacring members of the Alliance. Seriously, Heidenreich/Animal were better. It was painfully obvious they were going to treat us to ten or so minutes of MVP being a tit and Undertaker and Kane being hard before MVP pisses off and leaves Matt at the mercy of the BOD. Hardly a huge loss.

I seriously think that most of this could have been averted by announcing that there was going to be a #1 contenders match and then Orton vs. Whomever. Switching the belt three times on a show does no good. My thought was that they gave the Trips/Orton rematch away. They should have had a good main event match and built to something at Cyber Sunday, erasing the below average opening bout and giving us the awesome main.

I didn't know you didn't watch WWE. My apologies.

And yeah, BOD sucked. The only good that would have come out of it would be MVP and Hardy facing somebody other than Snuka Jr./Cockbag. Trips/Taker having no rematch would be easily solved by the E forgetting about the brand extension, which they are apt to do when it suits them. A Triple H/Undertaker side feud would be good, but it was just wishful thinking.

I honestly don't have a problem with Orton having the belt, and wouldn't have had a problem had Trips kept it through the night. The manner in which the night went was just bizarre. An entire year without a title change and then we get three in three hours. That's my complaint...that and I think they could have gotten more mileage from a tournament, even if it didn't involve Taker/Trips or anything like that.
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WATCH ME DRINK MY BEER!! LISTEN TO ME SWEAR!! GRRRRR!! I'M SO MANLY!!
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The level of how self-absorbed Hunter is has reached infinite.

Giving Orton the title instead of having Orton/HHH 1 to decide the new Champion was just so fucking shit. Triple H polishing UMAGA~! off in a few minutes was shit. Triple H having 3 matches and 3 long entrances was shit. Pizza eating is shit. No clean ending to Rey/Finlay was shit. Orton is awesome.

In this circumstance, they could have easily done Taker/HHH without advertising it. We KNEW a new champion would be crowned, so I doubt any advertised Taker/HHH match would draw significantly better than the controversially hyped show that was being ordered.
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Hopefully the spinner belt will be destroy on Monday. Eyesore, it is.


You underrate the Spinner; easily the best version of the belt since the Winged Eagle that was used from the mid-eighties to the late-nineties.

The Attitude-era belt, which many people seem to consider the best, was the real eyesore; bland, bulky and downight ugly. The Undisputed version of the belt was good, but it looks bland compared to the Spinner.

Technically, however, the Spinner is no more - the belt that was used last night had a fixed emblem. I wouldn’t expect anything else to change.
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Oct 8 2007, 11:38 PM
The level of how self-absorbed Hunter is has reached infinite.

Giving Orton the title instead of having Orton/HHH 1 to decide the new Champion was just so fucking shit. Triple H polishing UMAGA~!~! off in a few minutes was shit. Triple H having 3 matches and 3 long entrances was shit. Pizza eating is shit. No clean ending to Rey/Finlay was shit. Orton is awesome.

In this circumstance, they could have easily done Taker/HHH without advertising it. We KNEW a new champion would be crowned, so I doubt any advertised Taker/HHH match would draw significantly better than the controversially hyped show that was being ordered.

I know, its like he was planning to do this all along, but waited until he could no longer. I wanted him as champ again, but not like that. It was just retarded in all honesty. It was like they delibratly wanted to piss the entire IWC off in one night, and singlehandly swich the arguments from Super-Cena, back to the boss's selfish son-in-law.

However, I will say that while I don't agree with how he got it, I think another HHH reign would be WAY WAY WAY more tolerable than an Orton reign. He may change my mind, or something, but I'm just not entertained by him. HHH, while he may do some of the same stuff, he always keeps me in stiches, and you know when he has the mic, good things usually follow.
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I think WWE could have used this vacant championship as an opportunity to do something new, a new gimmick match, multiple participants. Failing that, a time limit title match would have been good to see, where the only time the belt officially changes hands is when the time is over.

Either way, creative really dropped the ball on this one and I would love to see how this PPV has fared against the rest this year so far and hopefully WWE will see their mistake (not likely though is it?)
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