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Hard Justice 07; Featuring Pacman
Topic Started: Aug 10 2007, 06:25 AM (1,841 Views)
Nihilus
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When is Jeff Jarrett coming back? I rather have him on my tv than Angle.
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Aug 13 2007, 01:29 AM
Joe = gone.

About fucking time. I want to see Joe/Morishma II [or whatever they're at now].
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Aug 13 2007, 05:47 AM
I think that Joe's departure will only help Joe in the long run. Better a small outfit like ROH where he can be on top, than a place where he'll constantly play second fiddle (TNA to Angle, WWE to Venis).

BTW, I sent you a PM JJJ.

Fixed it.
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Joe = gone.


We don't know that yet. I would love nothing better than to see Joe go back to ROH, but we don't know his status.

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So overall, how was the show?


It wasn't as bad as I thought it would be, honestly. Lethal/Duut vs. MCMG vs. XXX was good, and they gave it time. It was a little spot-happy, and I don't know why Lethal and Dutt won when Triple X needs the push, but whatever. Kaz beat Raven in a short match, I don't know where that's going. Storm beat Rhino again in another good match between the two. VKM pinned LAX, but then the match was restarted or something, and then Homicide pinned Kip. Dustin Rhodes got DQ'd by shoving the ref and then he beat down Chris Harris. Feud shall continue. Steiner Brothers beat Team 3D in a match that went too long. Abyss pinned Styles to get the title shot at No Surrender. I thought it was gonna be Sting, but either way all signs point to Angle/Jarrett at Bound For Glory. Angle/Joe was actually an excellent match. Oh, and Pacman started a feud with Ron Killings. I thought he was gone...

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It was far too rushed, if it's because Joe is leaving that's understandable, but why go ahead with it anyway? One week Angle's treating her like shit, later on in the show her turning on him, the next week she's still not with him... wait a few days later she turns on Joe. All in the span of two weeks. It would have made more sense to have her turn on him during the PPV, carried it out for a while, even if Joe did/does leave the storyline could be picked by someone else. I realize it wasn't going to be fantastic anyway you look at it, but the way it was carried out was awful.


The whole storyline was a little rushed, honestly.
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Daniels will win X Division title on iMPACT by interferance from Joe.

Abyss will lose to Kurt Angle at No Surrender by interferance from Ricky Banderas.

A WWE Pay Per View with Cena vs. Funaki for the WWE title as it's main event isn't as predictable as this. <_<
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Aug 13 2007, 06:12 AM
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Aug 12 2007, 11:37 PM
What was the problem with Karen Angle turning on Joe?

It was far too rushed, if it's because Joe is leaving that's understandable, but why go ahead with it anyway? One week Angle's treating her like shit, later on in the show her turning on him, the next week she's still not with him... wait a few days later she turns on Joe. All in the span of two weeks. It would have made more sense to have her turn on him during the PPV, carried it out for a while, even if Joe did/does leave the storyline could be picked by someone else. I realize it wasn't going to be fantastic anyway you look at it, but the way it was carried out was awful.


It was also kind of distasteful running a "family tension" angle in the first place, seeing as how its so soon after "you know who" did "you know what".
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MutantLeprechaun
Aug 13 2007, 04:03 PM
Daniels will win X Division title on iMPACT by interferance from Joe.

Abyss will lose to Kurt Angle at No Surrender by interferance from Ricky Banderas.

A WWE Pay Per View with Cena vs. Funaki for the WWE title as it's main event isn't as predictable as this. <_<

I don't think either of those things are going to happen.
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Aug 13 2007, 05:04 PM
MutantLeprechaun
Aug 13 2007, 04:03 PM
Daniels will win X Division title on iMPACT by interferance from Joe.

Abyss will lose to Kurt Angle at No Surrender by interferance from Ricky Banderas.

A WWE Pay Per View with Cena vs. Funaki for the WWE title as it's main event isn't as predictable as this.  <_<

I don't think either of those things are going to happen.

Then what (in your opinion) is?
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Supposedly, the X-Division title is being phased out. What I'm fairly certain will happen is that Triple X will win the tag titles and defend them under the Freebird Rule. If they do keep the X title, I could see it going to Daniels and Senshi and Skipper having the tag titles, though I'm not certain of that.


As for Abyss, I find it hard to believe that Banderas won't make an appearance before No Surrender. It's likely Banderas gets involved in this feud, and I'm not certain Abyss/Angle will be the finalized main event, if there's some sort of injury storyline.
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Aug 13 2007, 05:21 PM
As for Abyss, I find it hard to believe that Banderas won't make an appearance before No Surrender. It's likely Banderas gets involved in this feud, and I'm not certain Abyss/Angle will be the finalized main event, if there's some sort of injury storyline.

Banderas has already technically made an appearance, which is why I was hoping for him to debut at Hard Justice... but since the blood feud between Abyss and Cage will no longer be the center of attention due to the title shot (Christian might focus on a feud with A.J now considering he was the one was pinned in the Chamber of Blood match), No Surrender would be the best place to have Banderas screw Abyss out of winning the belt.

I personally would have booked Banderas attacking Abyss during the Chamber of Blood match (which I would've booked as Abyss' last chance at Christian), allowing Christian to get the pin on Abyss thus allowing him to get away from fighting Abyss again, since I tend to consider screwing someone out of their chance at revenge more original than screwing someone during a title match.

But honestly I don't care what TNA does as long as Banderas debuts soon!
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I didn't see the PPV but I have a couple questions and comments:

-The Roode/Young feud needs to end already. It's run past it's course.
-The Angle family divorce storyline was completely rushed. End of.
-So Joe can't beat Kurt, but supposedly some lower midcarder will be able to beat him for the X Division belt? That is of course if they keep it.
-I think it's pretty obvious who'll win at No Surrender.
-Why have Triple X job when they've just reunited? Not that I really care, but it just seems counter productive.
-Pacman Jones = ratings booster.
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Aug 13 2007, 08:22 PM
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Aug 13 2007, 06:12 AM
nascarsucks
Aug 12 2007, 11:37 PM
What was the problem with Karen Angle turning on Joe?

It was far too rushed, if it's because Joe is leaving that's understandable, but why go ahead with it anyway? One week Angle's treating her like shit, later on in the show her turning on him, the next week she's still not with him... wait a few days later she turns on Joe. All in the span of two weeks. It would have made more sense to have her turn on him during the PPV, carried it out for a while, even if Joe did/does leave the storyline could be picked by someone else. I realize it wasn't going to be fantastic anyway you look at it, but the way it was carried out was awful.


It was also kind of distasteful running a "family tension" angle in the first place, seeing as how its so soon after "you know who" did "you know what".

Sounds like your talking about bloody Lord Voldermort. But yes, I do have to agree with you about the whole angle.

Also, I heard Pacman was debuting as a face. Why the fuck? I mean, he's known to everyone as an arrogant athlete with a huge ego, so why don't you make him like the world see's him, a heel. I mean it worked for the WWE with FEDERLINE~!, so why not do the same. Once again TNA fucks up an excellent chance to improve ratings.
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-The Roode/Young feud needs to end already. It's run past it's course.


Yup. Nine months is too long.
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-The Angle family divorce storyline was completely rushed. End of.


Yup.


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-So Joe can't beat Kurt, but supposedly some lower midcarder will be able to beat him for the X Division belt? That is of course if they keep it.


If they want to phase it out, now's the time.

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-I think it's pretty obvious who'll win at No Surrender.


I'm telling you, it's gonna be Angle/Jarrett at Bound For Glory.

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-Why have Triple X job when they've just reunited? Not that I really care, but it just seems counter productive.



I said the same thing.

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-Pacman Jones = ratings booster.


You know, a lot of people ragged on TNA for this, but TNA's getting a fair amount of mainstream publicity, which they need.
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WWE got a ton of mainstream publicity when Benoit murdered his wife and son.
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Aug 14 2007, 02:38 PM
WWE got a ton of mainstream publicity when Benoit murdered his wife and son.

This is good publicity.
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All publicity is good publicity.
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Aug 14 2007, 04:07 PM
All publicity is good publicity.

As shown by the ratings, Benoit's wasn't. Eric Bischoff's theory = wrong.
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That's hardly Bish's theory.
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Bisch wrestleized it.
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